Gilligan In Drag

Are people in the ministry trying to run hotels and unable to compete? Is this their way to try to screw things up for their competition? As is par for the course this is not the whole story, but thats the only thing I can guess that makes any sense. You would think that hotels charge what they have to charge to stay in business or otherwise make it worthwhile to carry on, I would think that doing that would be difficult enough. So, would they actually listen to a committee of busy bodies who don't run hotel businesses who could care less if the hoteliers do well or not telling them how to run their businesses? If I ran a hotel I would hardly pay them any mind "Eh?! Whats that you say? Listen, come back tomorrow, I'm busy!!" Your hotel failing would be a lot scarier than most penalties these buffoons are going to try to cook up. Though you have to ask would or could they just snatch people's hotels from them, cancel their permits or certification or whatever they need? In any case seems the game is trying to make matters more dificult than they are for the tourism sector. It sends a negative image to the world and image concious Thailand being what it is they certainly must be aware of that. They want more hotels to fail so they can buy it them up for themselves on the cheap and change the rules back later.

Except that they haven't legalized ganja in one fell swoop. There will be new laws in three months or so but in the meantime there are none, the old laws were cancelled, so yes you can grow it smoke it in private no problem for now. That isn't legalization. Like anyone I'm surprised anything happened at all, but you know how conservative the people who run the country are, so I don't think its going to be legal at the end of this, legal ganja in Thailand seems to me to be a complete non-sequitor. But truly hope I am wrong about that, seems sensible to me that people need to learn to regulate their own behavior and their family's behavior, it invites the goverment in to run your life and they are wholly incapable of doing that, only you know what you need and what works for you, not some disinterested law makers who in most cases have little idea of their own well-being let alone yours.

Its not just Thai people, the major shopping outlets I went to yesterday were still requiring them for entry. Among them was Makro. So, thats another reason its not on despite no longer being a requirement, it still is, the big coporations will carry the torch. One Thai family member of mine remarked Thais don't want to show they are deeply unhappy, they are too tired of expending the energy to smile anymore. Interesting, and maybe shes right about that, but judging from some of my other family's complete terror regarding COVID, I would guess its a matter too important to them to trust a patently and strictly self-interested government but who ironically shoe-horned them into wearing masks all the time in the first place. But, the guy who drives me into town wasn't wearing his mask yesterday. I asked him if he had heard that the govt. rescinded the requirement and he said no he hadn't heard that. I asked why he wasn't wearing his mask as usual then and he said he didn't know, he just was tired of wearing it or something, didn't particularly feel like it and he hadn't really given it any thought, chuckle, chuckle. Good, at least the campaign didn't work on people like him who are too busy playing soccer or running his clothing business to sit around listening to the world disinfo service creep-ohs all day like I do. I would guess there are more like him out there thank Buddah.

In Isaan nothing grows easy. Really, I would try to grow indoors, people will just rip your plants off anyway as a reward for succeeding. I'd otherwise give them what I grew, but they steal our flowers and one time cleaned out our 200 odd orchids we had hanging in our backyard when we went away to Bangkok and put the orchids up on their front porches to rub our noses in it. What brilliant comedians. Nothing you can do and they love that! I love how my wife says, "I'd like to buy some ganja but then the local guy selling is a big mouth and he'd bad mouth me to everyone in town for having bought ganja from him how and probably say its for my farang husband who is some kind of drug addict as the guy pops his 5th yaba tab." I just have a beer and say Hey yeah, man its that guyses karma man! Whatever!" But, No, if I grow it will be in my basement and I'll gladly burn the stuff I don't smoke in a big bon fire just to spite them because half of them are theiving lying perpetually cheating at poker plastic trash burning yaba heads who will die of old age at 35. And they'll complain about the air pollution as they stand over their burning plastic bag lava heaps. But apparently Thats what being a human being is all about in this day its about might and not right, and might not or maybe probably until something else suits me because i said so shut the f--- up!

Because its in a cookie or a cake or sweets probably most of the Thais who are uninformed and relatively new to ganja are going to think that's a more moderate way to try cannabis. I can imagine that It's as though that magically re-casts something evil and heinous as smoking a drug into something innocent and innocuous and suitable for children, when in fact ingesting ganja is a bit more hardcore than smoking it. People who just want to stick their toe in should find some half strength stuff and not take more than two puffs. The problem is I think that too many people like perhaps nerdy goody two shoes types are confronted with the mistaken impression they are doing something bad like smoking by smoking ganja. But superficial surfaces mean the world to most Thais, so if its something you can't taste or smell in candy that you got in some chi chi boutique then its polite and harmless, so I think they have a bit of a problem that may not quickly go away. Peopl are going to want polite dainty little ganja toffees and they are going to "O.D." on them and have a panic attack or pass out for 12 hours or whatever. You think its Hello Kitty when its actually you got mauled by Simba. Even for smoking, nearly all of The stuff they are selling online is way stronger than I care to smoke. It either has no THC or 24%. I enjoy puffing on a joint not just taking a single hit and getting hammered by 28% THC weed or what have you. If they are putting the real strong stuff in the food, its not going to kill anyone but its really over the top. Its all a laugh if you're a regular smoker and yeah we deserve for being lam I suppose. Back in the days when I used to smoke in the 70's and 80's as high school kids, one time we got ahold of a good bag of shake. Something like would have been probably 3% THC tops. I've forgotten where, maybe it was stolen from someone's dad or something, as our parents used to grow the stuff so there'd be leaf saved in jars too. I became kin d of an expert at pinching my old man's bags, ie, stealing a joints worth or so, so that he wouldn't notice, "pinching" being stoner slang in the day for pot dealers who took a bud or two out of 1/4 oz.s for themselves. As in, "The dood pinched my bag, man! Look at that! That's not a quarter is it?" Luckily, there were enough people who were old time stoners and the info was in magazines like High Times and in books at the public library and so forth and luckily I trusted what I heard and read regarding ingesting pot: respect the stuff if you are going to eat it, eating ganja is no messin around. But, quite naturally, my friends and I had to try it and put our bag of shake into a "crazy cake," which is this low down and dirty quick and easy chocolate cake recipe, and I had a 2 inch by 2 inch cube and got uncomfortably wasted, groggy and a bit disoriented or something like that. The effect was not like the effect from smoking. It wasn't bad but not good enough to want to repeat. It truly is much stronger than smoking and you also have to wait about an hour or so before your digestion processes it and you get any effects, which is another problem with uninformed people eating it, they likely think they haven't eaten enough and then eat more. When we ate our crazy cake One of the guys went crazy and ate about half the 8x8 inch pan and after an hour puked all over himself. We were saying don't do it, stop and he insisted he wasn't high and the cake was delicious. I can imagine similar scenarios here people eat some sweets or other food and then eat some more and some more. Ruins it for everyone, just gives the authorites and politicians another reason to ban it. I can sense it coming on, it makes no sense really that cannabis has been legalized in Thailand, people are so conservative here, everyone I know is not really into it being legalized. It really does seem like it is something that has been done to attract tourists, get money and they aren't going to bother with helping people be smart about using cannabis. But really you might as well make kitchen knives illegal or crunchy food an object of national hysteria because people might injure themselves and you damn well can, toast and potatoe chips are killers, and Momma Cass Eliot choked to death on a sandwich ya know, its the nature of sandwiches encouraging a lackdaisical and undiciplined attitude in people so that they harm themselves! You need to attend more Methodist Church meetings and and sit ramrod staright at a proper table and eat with a knofe an fork or face being sent to a r-education camp! Its become that kin dof world thanks to the stupid hysterical pandemic and security state insanity the politicians and the mainstream media are foisting on us, oh and then cannabis is legal! Thats the little crazy making contradiction bit. But live high tension elctrical wires are left dangling and sitting puddles of rain though! And watch out for that motocycle going 60 miles and hour right behind you up on the sidewalk! Smoke some ganja that will help! Go to church! No, that racist become a scientist! Hilarious.

It should be that doctors are looking out for Omicron. Its not a government's job to look after anyone's health. You don;t visit your representative's office to get help with your health. Nor do you go to public health officials or the local outlet of the WHO.

Even with the most convenient paint by numbers thus expensive indoor growing set up its still probably much cheaper to grow your . Lets see then, shall we? Allow me to go completely crazy for 20 minutes and speculate, estimate etc: I'm sure its possible to do much better than what I outline here starting with ordering top of the line seeds from Holland, Spain, UK, US etc for $5-10 apiece, $50-100 a ten pack. But who knows, you might luck out and find a great phenotype lurking in the seed in the bottom of your bowl of Guay Tiow sai ganja, na krap. Actually you can pay what you want, there's super esoteric boutique seeds for the skies the limit on online international delivery sites like Neptune Seeds, another good one is Sensible Seeds U.K. that has a lot of positive reviews about not ripping people off tons of free seeds for large orders, and a huge selection of all the major seed breeders. Beware the rip off artists masquerading as Canadian seed banks mostly, they abound, weird grammar and general extreme and nonsensical English is the warning sign. They get all the company graphics somehow so these sites had me fooled for quite awhile, luckily I never ordered before I saw all the complaints on sites like Trust Pilot. The English was so bizarre however you still got completely sketched out by it. These guys are in Canada? OK, maybe they are immigrant Chinese Canadians or something but are they that xenophobic that they won't even hire a local to write up the products they are selling? Complaints range from never receiving product and not responding to inquiries after they have your Bitcoin to getting orders but the seeds have been switched out for ones that don't pop, or grow something some <deleted> thats not on the tin etc. Once you're aware, its easy to spot the legit sites if you are not already hip, if it gives you the creeps just by pass them there are many others. Then there's an online guy/bloke/düde in Thailand (you need the umlat over your u when you say dude if you want to sound like a stoner or leave it out if you don't want to sound that way and you naturally say it that way because you're a white boy or girl from California) Stoner Corner Thailand selling Mars Hydro grow tents, fans, air filters and lights online for about the same price if you ordered them yourself from overseas, the shipping and import fees are more than the cost of the gear if you order from abroad, so Stoner Corner passes those costs on to you charges double the sticker price you'll get from ordering abroad and it would work out only probably 30 percent more expensive ordering from Stoner Corner, but minus a long wait and potential customs hassles. Or so I assume. There's not a lot of help or info at Stonercorner and the site sketches me out a wee bit as well, so i am on the fence about them, so you might rather order from Amazon or somewhere abroad anyway...yuck, Amazon or maybe better 1,000 seeds in Germany has a ton of stuff. Stoner Corner also sells stones for stoners to smoke like Mokum Tulip for 175,000 baht a pound or Galactic Runtz or Buntz or Lunks or whatever its called for 200,000 baht a pound, so we can compare directly, a pound o' Stonercorner buds or Stoner corner gear to grow your own pound and probably much more fun should you succeed. This would be the kind of set up that I might get should I decide I don't just want to get some dirt put some expensive ganja seeds in and set it out in the back yard and hope: 1. Mars Hydro TS 3000- covers 5 foot by 5 foot area and more in a reflective sided Mars Hydro grow tent- 14,300 baht 2. Mars Hydro Grow Tent- 7 foot 10.5 inches x 3 foot 11.2 inches x 6 foot 6.7 inches- 7,600 baht 3. Mars Hydro 6 inch In-Line Fan, Air-filter and Thermostat- 6,200 baht 4. Organic super power soil-less soil T-rex 10 kilo bag- 1,100 baht x 6 (one bag fills one 6.5 gallons/22 liters)- 6,600 baht 5. Organic nutrients 3 pack (Vegetative, Shield, and Bloom) 1,500 baht x 2 or 10 (?) who knows, no info about how much you need to grow good pot, lets say x2 - 3000 baht 6. A pair of Mars Hydro sunglasses so you don't go blind from working so hard growing ganja 570 baht 7. Bloom Booster soil improvement (Perhaps the T-rex soil can be improved upon, so you might need this) 1500 baht x 2 for 5 kilos, each plant needs 1 cup a week- 3,000 baht 8. Scrog netting to uphold heavy bud stalks 120 x 120 cm 450 baht x 2- 900 baht 9. 5 gallon "Smart" Pots 80 baht x 6- 480 baht Comment: You can get a VivoSun complete set up: tent, lights, in line fan and thermostat for less than 400 dollars. But you'll pay as much for the shipping and import fees and oc course you're ordering from Mr. Smithers and his snickering pooch Smedly over at Amazon. I heard tell from the authorities at the University of Cannabis where you can get a Master of Cannabis degree for less than 400 dollars that VivoSun is a recommened brand whereas among the many reputable grow tent makers we see no mention of Mars. I don't know, there are plenty of growers on Youtube who mention using Mars stuff so its probably OK an who knows they might using them on Mars so you'll have something to talk about with the Martians when it turns out they have been running things here on earth all along. Stuff Stonercorner doesn't sell but which seems to me to be essential if you want a shot at growing top shelf stuff, which you can surely do, its not rocket science though I'm sure it is an art, but more about staying focussed grasshopper than re-inventing the wheel backwards with a simulataneous cute playing the spoons and tap dance act: Dehumidifier (You can buy them or order them from Home Pro, but can they be hooked up to a controller? I dunno, Home Pro probably doesn't know either, but you should just buy them anyway and save them and give them to your grandchildren when you pass away if it isn't compatible with a ganja set up) G.M.S H2105 25SQ.M BLACK at Home Pro- 1,500 baht Humidifier (Weirdly you can buy them in Thailand. Isn't Thailand humid enough? Well maybe not sometimes if you are growing bud in a tent) G.M.S H2105 25SQ.M at Home Pro-1,500 baht Humidity Controller (For sensing humidity levels and switching on/off your humidifier/dehumidifier) 1000 Seeds in Germany has a good selection and you can pay what you want to. 25 Euro to 400 Euro. I thought the GSE 8A looked good, but I don't know they may be garbage, have to check reviews if'n there's anywheres left that aint so Dad-burned corrupted: -125 euro but more like 175-200 after shipping and import tax- 6,000 baht There's also supposedly a very good alternative with Inkbird humidity controllers which I've heard mushroom growers say are good and they are only 25 dollars but look too much like disposable Chinese junks or junk rather, but then again isn't everything disposable Chinese junk including certain presidents of certain large powerfull American countries. You also have to buy them on Amazon, go ahead make my day, be my guest, its your planet's funeral if you go on supporting this company and yeah I admit I use them too for books, you can't buy books like Clark Coolidge's "A Book Beginning What and Ending Away." anywhere in Asia, I probably own the only copy on the continent and what use is being stoned if you don't that book to trip out on: 10. Seeds (I think you want to get seeds for stuff that interest you and that will keep you motivated to keep growing for the next 5 years or so so that you at least get the most out of your tent set up .) - 15,000 baht is what i want to spend on some tropical landraces (Colombia, Mexico, Thailand, Malawi, Congo, Afghanistan) some classics (AK47, Jack Herer, some variety of haze) some auto-flowers (420 Fast Buds looks like an excellent seed producer, tons of info and articles and pics and grower questions answered) and a few trendy new ones that sound and look interesting the Plant Stable seed breeder in the US on Neptune Seeds seedbank looks fascinating. 11. Electricity per month- I would guess another 1,000-3,000 baht depending if you are sharing your house's air conditioning or if you are air conditioning your grow area separately. The LED lights I believe are relatively negligible in terms of how much electricity it takes to run them versus say halide lights or whatever it used to be but if you are using old school lighting its quite a significantly higher amount of juice but maybe those kind of lights are a thing with some, perhaps it gives your weed something special, I don't know, I'm sure theres some sort of old school cannabis lighting cult out there and they will never surrender their ballasts. 12. If you live out in the sticks you'll need a power surge protector and a battery backup. I think those run about 6,000 baht. Other wise all your gear risks getting fried or your set up going on the blink if the power fails. So again thats: 14,300- Lights 7,300- Grow Tent 6,200- In-Line Fan+Air Filter+Temperature Control 6,600 - organic soilless soil for 1 grow (6-8 plants) 3,000- organic nutrients for 1 grow (6-8 plants) 3,000- bloom booster 1 grow (6-8 plants) 570- special invisible glasses to help you remain invisible while gardening 900- Scrog Netting 2 x (120x 120) 480- 6 pots 3000- Crummy Home Pro Humidifier + Crummy Dehumidifier 6000- humidity controller 15,000- seeds (enough for probably 5 years of growing) 4,000-12,000-baht electric bill for 4 months 6,000-power surge protector. So thats 76,350-84,350 for your initial pound of bud. Of course after that its lots cheaper at 16,600-24,000 per 4 months. Could you get a pound of bud out of it in four months? Would you want to, quality over quantity maybe, or are you going with what you are interested in and like versus just brute production and thereby cheaper? I suppose you could get more than a pound out of it with plants that finish ultra fast like some of the faster auto-flowers some of which the Fast Buds seed company promise are done in 55-60 days. or regular plants that produce a ton of buds. Lets say you get a half pound out in 4 months, 8 ozs, then you are not doing much better than just buying a pound from Stoner corner. If you like sativa, I would think generally speaking you'll have a tougher time making the grade cost-wise your first growing season whereas your indicas and afganicas are going to produce more. But yeah, that first season out of the way and your looking at dirt cheap and primo ganja, as much as you need and just the kind you want not what they happen to have in stock. And you know Thailand, it "pot" luck even when you go to the supermarket sometimes. The tent gives you nearly 2.5 square meters. And considering that I like the sound of auto-flowers being done in two months, I would plant a variety of auto-flowers for my first grow and that would happen to more than make up the cost of buying a pound from Stoner Corner. There are quite a number of plants that according to the auto-flower mavens at 420 Fast Buds will yield 450-600 grams per square meter in two months. So given you have 2 square meters at minimum in the above mentioned 240cm wide x 100cm wide tent, that's 900-1200 grams per two months or 1800-2400 grams per 4 months. A lot of 20-28% THC stuff to smoke. So, I guess you really have to like smoking ganja or maybe you enjoy giving everyone in your village an eighth ounce 4 times a year which might get you a hello how are you instead of being ignored for supplying the best free pot known to man. If you were Thai and allowed and able to sell it, whoa...lets count our eggs before they hatch for a minute and say you could sell your produce at 100 baht a gram. kick ass pot for 180,000-240,000 baht out of your tent per 4 month season. I think you'd have a shot at unloading that in 2022 at that price. You could go 30 baht a gram and still make 54,000- 72,000 baht every 4 months. Or open a shop in Bangkok pay an additional 15,000-20,000 per month for the shop rental, 50,000 baht/month for 2 staff members and have loads of year round enjoyment incurring the wrath of the Ganja business community selling top shelf bud (currently 800-1200/gram) for 200 baht a gram and gross 360,000-480,000 baht per season. Minus costs of 304,000 maximum per season you're running on fumes the first few seasons until either you're assassinated or put in prison for something trumped up and unrelated or you're interviewed in Coconuts and constantly by half the Youtubers in Thailand as a cannabis hero for bringing affordable ganja prices to everyone. At which point you then raise your prices to a whopping 500 baht as your sales go through the roof to an unimaginable 3600-4800 grams sold per season grossing you 1.8-2.4 million baht per season minus the costs of running two grow tents at 33,200-48,000 baht per season and an initial start up cost for the second tent set up of 59,180 baht assuming everything is the same price as when the 1st set up was bought. Considering also your shop costs of 280,000 baht per season and that's 1.8 -2.4 million minus (48,000+59,180+280,000)= 1,412,820 to 2,012,000 net per 4 month season. I imagine that's still a pretty ideal picture, I must leaving major costs out there like govt taxation which I'm sure will be steep if hey even allow shops to continue selling ganja. It seems they want to have people sell to the govt only. Appalling. What does the government know about ganja they'd probably reject a lot of it for arbitrary reasons just because they can under pay etc. But even if you managed to find a way to sell ganja at say 300 baht a gram after taxes, you'd eventually have quite stiff competition from businesses that didn't have to pay rent as owners of a property and perhaps in some perfect location like Siam Square of Khao San Road. You might be able to cut rent costs considerably doing a cutsey bootsy sidewalk stand, or shop on wheels junk truck selling food and ganja with DJ Johnny Dreadlocks or Hip Hop Harry or Metal MAry or Re-Bop the Be Bop Zoot suit smokin hot jazz and latin hipster pumpin the tunes or some other gimmick to get people in. If it were me I'd be all in for something much more Amsterdam than US cannabis shop which from over here on this side of the swamp all seem about as exciting as an electric pencil sharpener dealership. I think many businesses may decide to do a copy of the American style shop where you just get your buds and get the hell out of there and leave because it reminds you more of going to get your tooth drilled at dentist office. Already Highlands is offering beer and probably some snacks and other reasons to hang out and meet people who are avid about buds. I think that is the way to go the angle to absolutely crush the competition: offer entertainment, hang out space, events that stoned people have forgotten they enjoy like poetry readings, open mike nights, local bands playing gigs, maybe a small bookshop with good guides on growing ganja, good intelligent counter culture stuff, help people to use ganja to feed their awareness instead of just encouraging numbness and tuning out and not do it in a stupid sterile zombie pc way either, just try to help people to help themselves see through the utter <deleted> this world is drowning in. Or sell clothes and music develop a style for people to communicate to the world at large with. Or go simple with maybe just with a very friendly coffee shop/ganja outlet with some soul would do it, pay enough to attract smart and excellent people to work make them feel very good and proud to work there maybe enough people are burned out on phoney, sterile, and life in a petri dish lab experiement where you are just getting cynically gouged and bowlschlitzted everywhere you turn around.

I'm more of a fool for over priced exotic beers I suppose like Guinness or a nice 12% THC Imperial Stout. But alas, its illegal to sell those online since about two years ago supposedly because minors might order them we are told. Its interesting that it doesn't seem to matter if minors order ganja. I would say enjoy your mail order ganja while you can, someone in the government sponsored by the major brewing companies is bound to go on the war path against it soon enough if being unable to order beer online is anything to go by. Or did they recently relax about ordering alcohol? Nevermind, I suppose I can look it up myself.

Thanks so much, I did not know about Green Lab, I'll have to check it out and the other place mentioned in the ASEAN-Now News today. Yeah, fancy prices, but I'm not going to smoke hardly at all and planning to plant my own, thats whats most satisfying about cannabis to me are the plants. But yeah, I'm curious about the strains these days. I haven't smoked since the mid 1980's. In Northern California, we had good weed available but the only names I ever heard was skunk and sins bud and indica. By the mid 1980's nearly everyone was put off inferior quality commercial Colombian, so the former three types were the only ones apart from what you and your friends grew. Cheers!

The headline is a bit alarmist for those like myself who support full legalization. Yes, it will be somewhat more regulated than allowing kids to buy it and use it at school or pregnant women, but as someone has pointed out on this thread they don't mention any of that regarding alcohol which is no doubt even worse for developing fetuses. The second thing Anutin is talking about, is another new head scratcher, like he just woke up a few days ago and stumbled onto an old dog-eared and dusty handbook about growing cannabis at home and how if you grew your plants well you could achieve flower buds with 12% THC. Well, yes Anutin, the buds have that and a lot more these days, they are supposedly up to 30% and more if you like, if the cannabis seed retailers are to be believed and they probably can be. So, yes, what was all that about 0.2%, where did that come from? Anyway, anything that is at a mere 12% I would imagine does not get that much interest from most smokers these days, it should be more like 18-26% THC. I myself would probably rather stick to old school 12% though. Anyway, near as I can place it, he's just throwing miscellany into the pot (no pun intended) to make it sound like he has strict limits but he hasn't yet said anything about how they are going to limit bud THC, but you wonder if thats a hint. Really though they are making a hash (no pun intended) out of this, likely due to the fact they are stepping on all kinds of powerful people's toes, probably even pissing off other ASEAN countries like Singapore whose citizens will probably be flocking enmasse for stoned out holidaze in Thaistick land, so they have to make noises like "And oh my god! The cannabis flowers have 12% THC! We'll all lose our minds if we don't charge heavy taxes on 12%+ buds, we need to limit how much people smoke by putting it out of reach cost-wise! We really do care about our people's health! We do! And keep burning your plastics by the way we want Thailand to be plastic free by 2025! "

Gee, I guess I'm just out of the loop once again. I hadn't heard that ex-pats, ex-johns, ex-charlies or ex-barbaras and lisas are leaving Thailand in droves. Bu now that you mention it, I should leave, but I am not the upstanding, toe the line and get the latest booster shot and move onto the next place kind of person the rest of you are. "I'm blowin this pop stand! I'm goin to Ecuador! Why you can take acid on the beach in Ecuador, its semi-legal. And they got cactus growing all around and the volcanoes blowin their stacks its incredible!" " There's always plenty of reasons to leave that many of us love to moan about, like how the godamn birds in this country (no not those kind of birds, I mean birds that live in nests and lay eggs, not British "beüds", no I mean bards like we say in Alabama) that chirp all day, or charp all day as we say in Biloxi, they don't even sing they just beep or peep these one note bursts again and again and again and again and again and its enough to send you running and screaming for the exits back to Jacksonville, and with that as the back drop to the constant droning of the question, "How long you stay in Thailand?" which when you start thinking about it too much, and particularly in concert with the non-concert that is the beeping birds who can't string together a two note melody to save their lives, it completely loses its meaning. I don't really even understand the question any more. How long you stay in Thailand? Does it mean both how long have you stayed in Thailand and how long will you stay in Thailand, or what? I'm beginning to think so but that doesn't make any sense to me and doesn't to the Thais but they don't care. But what the hell does it even mean? Stay? Thats what I tell my dog to do, stay! Stay boy! "Stay right here in Thailand! "Stay! boy! Stay!"Anyway, I move around a little bit, what you mean how long I stay? And if you ask people what they mean they seem to get confused and then try to make a slap stick joke out of it say for example and then hit you over the head with a spoon. Nobody understands what or why you are asking, "Woy! Ting tong! Why you not go back home already? Airport is over there." The way everything is a bloody misunderstanding all the time and thats the way they like it! If everyone misunderstands what you are saying then they don't have to answer you except how they want to and you don't have to answer them, and you can change the topic change your mind, change the salad dressing and the whole damn menu at the drop of the hat if thats what you need and no one even blinks. "Oh...misunderstanding." You can get out of anything because it was a misunderstanding. Simple as that. You got run over by a train because you asked, "Can we stand here?" And they said "Shooah! You can stand anywhere in Thailand! You free baby! And ganja is free too!" But, no really you can misunderstand anywhere and get run over by a train because you think you can stand there and Thai people think you can stand there too, but not tell you, you'll get hit by a train if you stand there. And how they are always out of something you sort of kind of need to buy but not really. Or they get something you like and then start to need it and then they know, now is the time to stop selling it. I swear my wife calls the supermarket when I'm asleep in bed, "OK he's really using pickel relish all the time, pull the plug, send the rest of it back to the distributor now, your clear. The hooks are in. " And you ask the shop manager, "Say blood, why you go and discontinue those blue corn jalapeño cheese puffs on me and sheet, that's a messed up deal man, why you do that?" and they say "Because nobody ever buy them." And you say "well I was buying them! I bought all the ones you had on the shelf one day! If you hadda put more I would bought them too G.! But Because I already knew you'd discontinue them next month because you were actually selling them and its too much trouble for your ass to order more, you don't order that thing again! Thats it isn't it, G?! You just want things in here up ther on the shelf that no one will buy, so you don't have to do nothin!" And he says "Yes." And thats all he has to say. Not yes you're right just "Yes." If it was America and they had that kind of attitude they would say, "Uh-huh." and thats it, that all they would say. But here they say "Yes." The brittle floors and tables and beds that are constantly collapsing under my 900 pound frame, the way you have to keep fixing your house all the time because materials and workmanship ain't no good, the way people don't appreciate my yodelling or my gifts. "Have some candy!" "No! Mai pet rai!" "No really! I insist!" "No! I not hungry!" "Well you can save it for later!" "I already have candy I save!" "Well you can give it to your sister then, right?" "I no have a sister i have 3 brothers." "Well give it to them!" "My brother old already, they don't eat candy!" Its enough to make you want to move to a war zone! Aghh! Argh!

Above link to Coconuts article not working, this one seems to be working: https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/heres-where-to-buy-cannabis-right-now-in-bangkok-map/

If you go to their website, you'll see it's kitchen ganja that they sell, leaf only. So not exactly the same thing as the o.p. is talking about. But, yes I would guess that it will likely be something like this if psychoactive cannabis is allowed to take off on a commercial scale, the large corporations will want a monopoly on it and they'll have laws in place like they do with opening a small craft brewery that make it prohibitively expensive for but the very wealthy. The ganja companies will probably want to do what they do with the rice farmers, pay them not even enough to produce the crop and then also get money from them again loaning them money to buy excessive amounts of fertilizer and weed killer from agri-chemical outlest they also own. The farmers won't be able to sell ganja to anyone else but Pfizer or Boon Rawd Brewing Company or Thai Tobacco Monopoly or whoever ends up being the national ganja behemoth. In further depressing visions of the non-future I have beheld you won't even be able to legally grow at home soon because the corporations won't want you encroaching on their profits.

I'm sure you can make that distinction unfortunately most of the media and/or the govt spokesmen don't seem to be able to, don't pin it on me. That said, we are very proud of you that you finished high school, what do you want to be when you grow up, a journalist?

Or if you're Bill Clinton you smoke but you don't inhale and that should be sure to make it all legal.

The simplest thing I have seen yet. If its truly from the Royal Police and/or Bangkok Post, thats pretty much the final word. I guess this forum needs to generate discussion and something as straight forward as this doesn't do that. Thanks again Don Chance!

Exactly. If you are using cannabis for depression, you'd be using high level THC weed I would think.

No no no Nikmar, you'll end up in the slammer for .2% ganja, the limit is 0.02%.

No, no no Willy .2% is ten times higher than is allowed, it's .02%.????

I would also suggest, looking at the videos on Youtube reporting on all of this "legalization." You'll see the whole world is as confused as I am. You are scolded by Anutin on one report "If tourists think they can come to Thailand and get high they are wrong! We are legalizing cannabis strictly for health purposes!" Many news reports go along with the contradiction of 0.02% THC being the limit and yet show the menu which someone also posted above in this thread which is from one of the first cannabis shops, a menu which seems to suggest the shop sells regular 15-30% THC level weed. Another Australian television news spot first reports the "caveats" which it says are important to note and yet again its that the THC level shall not exceed 0.02%. Yet towards the end of the mini-program there is an interview with a very pretty and well spoken Thai cannabis activist interviewed by the Aussie news service at her cannabis farm's grand opening event and when asked about the 0.02% she says that no it isn't true, there is no limit on THC and that Thailand is doing this because they want to bring tourists in. Yet, Anutin, one of the main instigators of this whole thing is now vehement against ganja tourism. Really I would wait and see about all of this, there is no consensus as to what is what at this point.

No doubt. As have I been living my life not touching ganja or even hanging out with people who do. You may have been living your life but i say you didn't understand what your life was worth if you were willing to go to prison and put your friends and family through hassles just to cop a buzz.

I'll have a gram of the refreaking boon boring, hahah! Love it! I feel refreached already!

It appears that I now have to eat crow (never tasted crow before, I imagine it tastes like pigeon meat) and that all cannabis, which I have heard tell is up to 28-30 percent THC with some of the latest strains, is legal. I don't understand all the articles we had on ASEAN-Thai, or whatever this forum is called now, about "cannabis" that is over 0.02% would remain illegal. Just two days ago or so there was an article saying that cannabis "except for psychoactive substances" would be legal. What is the explanation for that, and for all of the brou haha about cannabis being required to be lower that 0.02%? Are the articles presented on this site that badly translated, or are they simply redacted heavily by someone who personally doesn't want "cannabis" to be legal? Whats the deal? Seems you'll have to wait and see till all the smoke clears if you want to smoke, grow your own etc, so I'm glad I don't enjoy smoking cannabis, though my dad used to grow it and smoke it when I was growing up in the 70's and I smoked a few times a week from the time i was 16 til I was 24. So it is all still interesting to me though I don't like pot now. If I were a smoker I would really hate to have to sit on the fence and wait for things to pan out. I can imagine in some provinces they may continue prosecuting people. I also still find it hard to believe there isn't some catch. I'm sorry but I have to say, the reporting on this whole issue has been done rather poorly over the last 5 months or so. What about growing cannabis? Though I don't smoke I do like raising all kinds of interesting plants and cannabis grown well is a highly charismatic plant, with it s aromas and large bushy clumps of flowers. You'd think you'd incur the wrath of your community just by creating large amounts of envy and get into trouble that way. So, I am not about to run out and plant it, though now is the time I believe, you want to have your plants of a decent size when the photo-period is such that it induces flowering in the late fall/winter. But you also do not want to plant auto-flowering varieties just yet because rainy season is here and your buds will likely succumb to rot. I really don't know what I am talking about, it is just what I remember friends who were ganja farmers back in the day saying. Most foreigners could grow better cannabis than most of the locals, growing good cannabis requires a lot of attention that few Thais are willing to commit to. It also needs to be cured properly or it ends up being unpleasant to smoke. We'll no doubt be inundated by loads of cheap head-ache inducing, seed permeated moldy stale brown stuff. But, Thai cannabis strains are world famous of course, Thai stick was a prized form of ganja when I was a kid, so it would not be too hard to get ahold of some good genetics, so growing your own would be the thing. Seems too good to be true. Failing being able to locate good seeds you could order seeds but I suppose there's some kind of ban on that. I guess we'll all have to hold our inhalations for awile and see what happens next.

I asked for information about this, and you won't provide them c.n.n.t Thailand is not a link to a specific article or website as far as I know. I'm clearly interested in clarifying the issue, not slagging off the government. If its truely going to be legal you can show me the links but you are too busy I guess defending your government for whom there is no defense on this issue. They are purposefully trying to confuse people and in paricular tourists and foreigners.

Yeah. you can do anything you want to if you like, play on the freeway, set yourself on fire, smoke cannabis in Thailand if you like. And people can plant anything they want to and risk going to prison. If you want to know where my info comes from read the article that we are commenting on here. I've already quoted it so there should be no question from you where I get my information. But the quote is there again at the beginning of this post. It says very clearly, with the exception of psychoactive substances. Cannabis is illegal and will continue to be illegal in Thailand. Hemp, will be legalized on June 9 and some people on cannabis charges will be let out of prison. They are unrelated but set up to confuse you so you go out and smoke and get popped and have to pay them.