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10 hours ago, RayWright said:

Red Rum won the National 3 Times and came runner up twice,  Phar Lap only won the Melbourne Cup once. So was definitely a flash as opposed to a proper Thoroughbred.

Read about performance in Mexico shortly before his death :-)

On 3/4/2023 at 1:59 AM, Grotto said:

I partied with two girls the other day. Now I want to ask one of the girls to give my Line ID to the other one. I am not getting through. Can someone help me with this?

 

More or less what I want to say:

- Here is my Line Link. ///linelink///

Can you give it to your friend and ask her to contact me?

You're asking pretty girl to chase you, which doesn't reflect well on you. Better to ask the friend whether you can have the pretty girl's LINE id. Then you contact her for yourself.

Also, the Thai will be simpler this way.

There's a cool one you use in traffic, when someone who does not have right of way aggressively pushes in. Of course you don't say anything to that upstart driver, you just very quietly say it to your traveling companions inside the safety of your car! 

The English translation is "to enter without mercy" and it has the word 'jai' (heart/feeling) in it. Someone else here will know the full phrase :-)

The name Phar Lap derives from the common Zhuang and Thai word for lightning: ฟ้าแลบ [fáː lɛ̂p], literally 'sky flash'.

3 minutes ago, Dan O said:

No this thread is about whether AI exists or a marketing ploy. Your off to the races on moral and ethical grounds which may be valid down the road but not to whether it's real and exists or not. 

My point exactly. 

1 minute ago, Red Phoenix said:

Here the 'intelligent' response from AseanNow's ChatGTP on my question.

 

Prior to covid, my understanding of vaccination was that it prevented disease transmission (it prevented the body from 'catching' the relevant illness).

Prior to covid, i never heard of any vaccine that could reduce symptoms. 

Is there a gap in my knowledge, or did the basic function of vaccines suddenly change significantly in March 2020?

3 minutes ago, Dan O said:

 

You say I am being vague because I'm not talking about the concrete thing immediately in front of you.

You think I am 'stringing together' concepts because I have a large data set in my head (I read a lot) and therefore I'm able to draw broader comparisons, which add to understanding and therefore lead us toward better quality answers.

This is a thread about AI generally, and whether it exists as hyped. Mainstream media presents ChatGPT as having made leaps and bounds in its development in recent months. These reported recent developments in ChatGPT are prompting more discussion about AI in the general population. Hence the focus on it in this thread in April 2023.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Question: What is a good pickup line for a girl in a bar in Soi 6 Pattaya in the style of The King James Bible?

 

ChatGPT:

"I sayeth unto thee, fair maiden, art thou an angel sent from the heavens above? For thou art more precious than rubies and thy beauty radiates brighter than the morning sun."

 

 

Is it necessary to sweet-talk these women? I thought the point was to pay them...

"mai poot ploy, khun jaai ploy"

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Sure, people don't have to use it. They can ignore it. But I think it makes a lot of sense that people keep up to date about the capabilities from AI.

Imagine someone would ignore the internet. Sure, he/she doesn't have to use any of it personally. But it's there, almost everybody is using it, with tremendous consequences. Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't remove the consequences of the fact that it exists. 

???? Great point - I agree there's where the focus should be. 

It's a bit like, along comes this new thing called the Model T Ford and, we're very excited, there's a lot of hype, so we focus on its speed, engine power and handling rather than trying to project into the future and guess at the longterm effects of mass use of automobiles. (Direct and indirect consequences). 

Or, along comes feminism, divorce law, and the sexual revolution, and we focus on the quality of our pick-up lines and on the relative efficacy of various contraceptives rather than imagining the likely longterm effects of redesigning the relationship between men & women. (Direct and indirect consequences). 

With AI, there's a preliminary question as to whether it does in fact exist (the topic of this thread).

If AI does exist as reported, what are the likely consequences for humanity? (Direct and indirect consequences). 

On the other hand, if AI doesn't exist as presented, and is only a lie being told by certain journalists, academics and netizens, then.... <drumroll>.... we need to ask, what might be the long-term, direct and indirect consequences for humanity?

What is the usual long-term result when we blindly trust invisible authority figures who excel in manipulating our emotions?

How did you go in Thailand?

I can get away with that kind of refusenik behaviour in Oz but harder to maintain it when dealing with the mindset of average Thai bank employee.

Phone users are retarded though - using wifi without VPNs, recharging at random public USB outlets, and the list goes on. ????

8 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Though, I suspect that such random do-gooders are rather lacking in displays of truer goodness. In practice or theory. 

 

I might trust a curmudgeonly cynical type before engaging in such romantic embrace of the do-gooder [whatever that might be] 

Please rephrase your comments for clarity, so we can talk about your concerns.

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Today I read an article that a phycologist, who normally tests humans, tested ChatGPT with a standard IQ test. Result? Guess. 155! 

I Gave ChatGPT an IQ Test. Here's What I Discovered - Scientific American

 

Not long ago I saw this video. I would never have thought that would be possible:

 

 

Now I played myself with ChatGPT. I gave it a programming job in plain language. The initial response was already very good. And then I asked ChatGPT to change this and that and some more. Almost all answer were good or very good.

The only difference to having a skilled programmer on the other side was that ChatGPT was faster, and it was not annoyed when I asked deliberately a few stupid questions.

 

Anybody who dares to ignore this should not be surprised if suddenly the world changes around him or her. How did that happen. It happens. And fast!

 

For anybody with some time I recommend this video.

 

 

Seems to me this big change is coming, whether any individual likes it or not.

Whether anyone personally ignores ChatGPT or enthusiastically throws  questions at it (intelligent or unintelligent) every evening, won't make a scrap of difference.

Some people just like to jump onto every bandwagon.

I know a very high IQ medical doctor, who has published extensively and completed a Fellowship, and also done a lot of charity work, who tested negative to COVID four times in one week, and still insists ????????????that he had COVID at that time. "Based on what, Sir? A HUNCH???" (The doctor turns witchdoctor!)

Just a full on bandwagon rider. Has to share the same experiences that everyone else. Some people are just like that.

Makes no difference in the end -- so I think people should feel emboldened to "dare to ignore" (your words) ChatGPT and all the AI buzz, if that's their preference.

Nature is still there, instrumental music, animals, cooking... all the good things that were always there are still there. 

I for one cherish the opportunity to talk to those who still have the ability to generate THEIR OWN THOUGHTS. These days most people cannot converse; they merely regurgitate from news and social media. Like demented parrots. ChatGPT will only exacerbate the problem.

I should pick out a few choice individuals right now and beg them to ring fence with me ;-) The Anti ChatGPT Chat Group.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Ask ChatGPT:

 

Question: write a computer program that generates the average air pollution in bangkok

 

Answer:

Here is a Python program that generates the average air pollution in Bangkok: ```python import requests from bs4 import BeautifulSoup # Get data from website url = 'http://aqicn.org/city/bangkok/' r = requests.get(url) soup = BeautifulSoup(r.content, 'html.parser') # Find the air quality data data = soup.find_all('div', {'class': 'aqivalue'}) # Extract the average air pollution value pollution_values = [] for

Let's think about the type of questions/requests we should be making of ChatGPT in order to assess its abilities.

One, a computer program (on its own) is not a petrol car, a fire in a Mekong rice field, nor a factory, so we can't expect it to generate pollution (at average rates or otherwise).

On the face of it, the computer program fails 100%, because you asked it to generate air pollution and it failed to fulfil your request.

Two, I will assume you meant to ask the computer program to report some data to you -- data that YOU want, because YOU are in the driver's seat, testing ChatGPT.

The purpose of deriving a mean average is to be able to compare individual data points to that mean. Alternatively, you might want to compare the mean of one data set with the mean of another (comparable) data set.

It's not clear here what information you wanted from ChatGPT.

If you are accustomed to checking a (for example) daily air pollution statistic (e.g., from a news source, or a pollution-tracking app), then simply request today's data in the same way you'd use Google.

If you want a computer program to calculate an average, then you need to tell it what YOU want the data set to be. (Otherwise, you are simply being a passive recipient of someone else's creation, like when reading a book, watching the news or listening to a song).

To give actionable instructions to Chat GPT, you first need to think about WHY you want to see this data and what ACTION you'll take as a result of seeing it.

You'd need to tell ChatGPT:

- what's the time period from which the mean average is to be derived?

- (presumably there are sensors or similar placed asking Bangkok, testing the air.) Which sensors' data should be included in the calculation? Should any sensors' data be excluded? 

- what's the desired unit measure of air pollution ChatGPT should work with?

If you can't be bothered to truly test  ChatGPT's abilities, and you are more interested in observation and entertainment, then make a request something like: "ChatGPT, write some code that has something to do with calculating some kind of average air pollution in Bangkok." If you'd asked that question, then the answer you received from ChatGPT would have been appropriate.

BUT it wouldn't be a very useful or impressive answer, because the question wouldn't have been meaningful or difficult.

4 hours ago, ravip said:

Just a fleating thought...

Have you ever realised that the Thai people are a million times more tolerant than most of the foreigners visiting Thailand?

Yeah, very tolerant: they have sex with people that no one else would. They do business with criminals that no one else would. I agree with you, they are very tolerant indeed.

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2833369/Thailand-one-dangerous-tourist-destinations-Earth-Ex-pat-investigation-lifts-lid-dark-Land-Smiles.html

17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Couple of things about that.

 

Yes, the Thais have loads of different smiles, and one has to grow up in the culture to understand them, so farangs tend to misinterpret their smiles, eg a farang might think a girl smiling at him is because she likes him, when she is actually thinking that the farang is a revoltingly gross fat b'tard with bad breath and no hair.

 

Thailand is NOT a poor country. It's very, very wealthy, but most of the wealth ( as always ) is concentrated in few hands.

Yes... Ha! There is a gleeful, impish Thai smile that means: "Farang, you're paying a very inflated price, and I am getting a lot of pleasure from that fact alone. I am also gaining status & face in front of my friends because I am showing off to them about ripping you off, and that makes me very happy." Seen it a few times now. It also has this element of "Whatchagunnadoaboutit? / So sue me!" in it.

You mention wealth inequality.

"Thailand now has the largest wealth gap in the world, according to a recent report by Credit Suisse. The Global Wealth Report and Databook, published in December 2018, showed that the richest 1% in Thailand now controls almost 67% of the country’s wealth."

How does a country reach the top of that inequality chart? Which behaviours and skills are needed?

I'll leave forum members to ponder that over the weekend.

 https://www.aseantoday.com/2019/01/thailands-wealth-inequality-is-the-highest-in-the-world-what-does-this-mean-for-upcoming-elections/

1 hour ago, norbra said:

I vote "Automation" could explain the use of machines doing those and menial tasks, lol

Yes. 'Automated Intelligence'. That's all it is.

5 hours ago, Encore said:

I have had the displeasure of being banged up in the IDC and can testify that it was far from being on an ocean liner outbound to the jewel in the crown with a port cabin and a return home in a starboard cabin.

Surely that disclosure deserves a bit more detail!

On 3/29/2023 at 11:51 PM, BayArea said:

 

the good doctor is General practitioner, Sexologist, Sexual Medicine Specialist 

???????? Great find! It's THE classic case of Small Man Syndrome.

'Thailand: Deadly Destination' by John Stapleton costs $6 as Amazon ebook.

Provides many facts & a decent analysis of the overall treatment of non-Thais in Thailand.

Great topic OP. Don't you just HATE it when do-gooders do good?

To have one set of clear & lasting rules, applied consistently to all, is not a profitable system. Also, it disperses power amung the population, rather than consolidating it in a few hands.

16 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Quote from the link:

According to Watcharaphol, the attendant said that the foreign passenger behind him was a Gold Status passenger. He was confused and showed his boarding pass to her, explaining that he was also holding gold status. Watcharaphol then said…

“What does that foreign passenger have that I don’t? I have both a French and a Belgian passport. I can speak three foreign languages, English, Greek, and Russian. I got overlooked because I am speaking Thai, right? 

 

No so much "what does he have" as much as what do you have.

A huge chip on your shoulder.

 

 

13 hours ago, Hanuman2547 said:

It's been my experience that Thai Airways tends to give better service to non-Thais over the years when I flew Thai.  I saw a lot of that back in the 80's and 90's.  Also heard a number of Thais complain about this as well.  Didn't matter if it was business or economy class.    

Now I tend to stay away from Thai Airways as their fares are always more expensive than their competitors and the routing is never that convenient.  

I heard TA is going broke, which gives me pause about the safety of the planes.

Full points though for their 2022 safety demonstration video, which was sensuous, flirty, elegant, creative and beautiful. 

7 hours ago, Purdey said:

Why is Singapore's Changi airport so good at handling visitors? They sit at their counters and process passports swiftly. It seems that staff appear just as the contents of a plane is unloading and then disappear until the next plane. Why is the system so different and efficient?

Because Singapore is the Switzerland of Asia.