Jotnar

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Well If my wife wanted to get to BKK, (I don't drive any more) it is about 350 km.

 

We live in that blank area to the left where nothing is shown. 

 

Between KPP and the house there are at least 40 ICE gas stations and no EV charging stations.

 

It is OK if you are on a main highway, but out in rural Thailand, which is the majority of the country and the people, there is very little to nothing unless you charge your EV at home.

 

EVs at present are fine but how many EV tractors, etans, iron buffalos, motorcycles are there available and at what price, for the majority of the poor Thai people?

if you read the op, plenty of MBs, all sizes and budgets.  Cheaper than ICEs, perform better, same or lower cost to buy in and maintain, though if looking for top end speed or 100 km range, stick to ICEs.

one brand seems to be quite popular and gets government incentives:

26 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

And what mobile washing machine could ever beat this: 

 

"What are the fastest electric cars in 2023? The fastest electric car is Rimac Nevera 1408 kW that has top speed of 412 km/h (256 mph). The second is Aspark Owl that has a top speed of 400 km/h (249 mph) and the third fastest car is Tesla Roadster that has a top speed of 400 km/h (249 mph)"

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

I live in rural Kamphaeng Phet and AFAIK my nearest public charging point is on the route 1 AH 1 some 60 km away.

 

The MG Garage has 1 or 2, Robinsons has the same.

 

So, to charge my EV, if I had one, at a public charging point, I would lose 60km of battery charge just to get home again.

 

Do you have a map showing all of these wonderful charging stations?

You want to know where the stations are, that you'll never use.

Google, PlugShare, or ChargeLoma app if really interested.

People have posted more than enough links on AN if interested.  Although, you would probably be charging at home.  How many does one really need?

11 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

in the uk sales of ecars are in the dumps due to high prices and falling prices on 2nd hand cars ,dealers are reluctantt to trade em or hold em in stock 

Don't let the facts get in your way.

"New plug-in car registrations year-to-date:

• BEVs: 76,230 (up 19% year-over-year) at a market share of 15.4%
• PHEVs: 31,765 (up 7% year-over-year) at a market share of 6.4%
• Total: 107,995 (up 15% year-over-year) at a market share of 21.8%

For reference, in 12 months of 2022, more than 368,000 new passenger plug-in cars were registered in the UK, reaching an average market share of 22.8%."

https://insideevs.com/news/661371/uk-plugin-car-sales-march2023/#:~:text=Plug-in electric car registrations in the UK – March 2023&text=New plug-in car registrations,a market share of 21.8%

11 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

People I know with EVs like them, but only as a second car to their ICE one. That kind of tells me something. 

There's a few, inclusive, on AN that have multiple EVs, and tells me something also.

1 minute ago, transam said:

I think I have been in LOS probably longer than you, but is way off-topic regarding charging stations in LOS and the speed of topping up a gas ride...........????

Please try again....????

I've been here a couple decades+, though irrelevent.

Not off topic, as explains the rise in new registrations, the topic.  Plenty of  charging points, so no topping up issues, unless weekend, which you should plan ahead and use  their reservation system.

Now, I'm topping up at home with solar, so pretty convenient.

1 minute ago, sidneybear said:

ICE cars are incredibly reliable these days. 

As are EVs, and with 99% less moving parts, that should be self explanatory.

Does explain the steady rise in sales, as most kinks have been worked out, and those, like myself, only bought in after.

50 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

Which 3Ms or others do you use, and from where?

https://www.lazada.co.th/3m-official-online-store/?q=mask&from=wangpu&langFlag=en&pageTypeId=2&spm=a2o4m.10453683.searchbar.0

2 hours ago, sidneybear said:

Certainly EVs are fast until the battery goes flat. They sound a bit like a washing machine though, give me that visceral snarl of a turbo any day. 

I prefer a smooth and quiet ride.

Certainly ICEs are fast until;

blow a rod

need a tune up

run out of oil

drop a drive shaft

pop a rear

unbalance u-joint

break a belt

need a new clutch plate

along with need to replace any of the other 2000 moving parts

"A fully electric car has fewer moving parts, so they come with less ongoing maintenance costs. In fact, there are about 20 moving parts in an electric engine, compared to nearly 2,000 in an ICEV!"

https://driveelectric.org.nz/consumer/what-is-an-ev/#:~:text=A fully electric car has,nearly 2%2C000 in an ICEV!

In the past (USA), my dogs never ate dog food.  Now, Thailand, it's about 50/50,  table/dog food.

As I myself now take a daily supplement, since not eating the most balanced diet here.  Hoping the dog food is fortified also.

Shouldn't be much of a surprise, as corporations have their lobbyist everywhere.

On 4/29/2023 at 9:38 AM, connda said:

The large trucks and SUV are Status Symbols here in Thailand.  Nothing more.  They can physically sit higher than other road traffic, drive like bats out of hell, and feel superior.

Or maybe the owners prefer more comfort, performance and practicality with their purchase.  Buy what you want or what you  can afford.

I think the op's issue is simply the size, on smaller roads and finding large enough parking space to squeeze into.  Why I would never buy a long vehicle, or one of those wider SUVs or 4X4s.

Do enjoy the higher seating of a SUV (b class), and more cargo area over a sedan or hatchback, along with being a  shorter SUV.  As comfy as a Fortuner or like size SUV, I wouldn't want one for same reason op regrets having his truck.

44 minutes ago, Denim said:

I'm not but what sexual assault took place. They were on an escalator. Whatever it was there was little time for it. These days any contact at all in the nether regions can be construed as sexual assault.

Sexual assault (UK) can be any physical contact, if perceived to be sexual.

"What is sexual assault UK law?

The legal definition of sexual assault in England and Wales is when someone intentionally touches another person in a sexual manner, without that person's consent."

Possible example; in a pub, had a few to many, see a chickie, walk up to her, touch her arm to get her attention while saying 'you're pretty hot, I'd love to have sex with you'

in the past, you'd be guilty of being an ahole

now, you've just committed sexual assault

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Circuit parties don't represent the whole LGBT world.

 

As mentioned before they are designed to be exclusionary.

Understood, though I do find that as a bit hypocritical.

Does seem to be a common thread with special interest groups.  Pushing inclusiveness, until it invades their world.

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Of course very welcome as spectators at Gay Pride parades.

 

But not at circuit parties. 

 

As mentioned before they are completely different things.

 

Circuit parties are designed for specific types of gay men that don't even include the majority of gay men. Also circuit parties are definitely for adults only.

Had to google 'circuit party', and seem to be a not so inclusive party, by people constantly complaining about inclusiveness LOL

"Circuit party

Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Circuit_party

While open to anyone, the parties are generally viewed as social events primarily for physically fit and masculine-identified white gay men."

1 hour ago, sidneybear said:

Do you have one? I'm genuinely curious. 

 

And yes, that 270 HP of unabashed materialism does make me smile when I put my foot down.

Yes, I get the smile factors, as pretty confident my almost instant EV torque will match or beat that 270hp turbo off the line.

Search the fastest vehicles, 0-60mph/100kph

Hint; they won't be ICEs

And I get to pass all those petrol stations and spend my baht on things I actually want, instead of the fueling and constant maintenance of an ICE vehicle.

Did that for decades, so moved on from those old, inefficient low tech machines to something much better.

Last reply to you, and thread.

5 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Be fair.... I might run out of fuel in a diesel truck after 1000 km, would an EV provide me such range to find a plug in point?

Nothing worse than being behind a diesel vehicle on motorcycle or even a bicycle.  Or walking if some idiot left it idling while parked.  That fuel really should be banned, except for maybe the trucking industry, for now.

Disgusting pollution, and you couldn't give me one.  I prefer not to contribute.

Why would anyone want to drive 1000 kms for pleasure ?

All silly comparisons and arguments.

If you like your ICE, I'm happy for you, as it pays the tax base, and probably gives me a tax break.  I just prefer not to be behind you or live in a congested area with them spewing their pollution.

20 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

Well, the newspapers here are full of stories about: people getting stranded; range anxiety; people waiting hours queuing for charging looking longingly at others filing up with petrol in 5 minutes; people wishing they hadn't bought one; people complaining about the astronomical prices of replacement batteries, and; people complaining about massive depreciation on second hand sales. 

 

You enjoy your EV, if you actually have one. I'll stick to my 270 HP turbo ICE that I can drive 500 km and fill up in five minutes. 

Not in Thailand and seem like user error.   If you ran out of petrol, would it be the cars fault ?

'if you even have one'

270 hp, useless materialism, sounds familiar

Goodbye

2 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

They're being propped up by various carrot and stick government policies at the moment. Wait and see what happens when the public realises the true cost of Nut Zero and start throwing their governments out.

Propped up, or, governments finally realizing the need to stop being controlled by the fossil fuel industry.

14 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

Spot on. EVs are a rich man's toy, and do nothing to save the planet. 

Cost the same as ICEs to buy, and less to operate.

Far from rich person's toy.  More toward the smart shopper, who invests their finances for future ROI, instead of flash materialism they have to throw money to maintain.

10 hours ago, sidneybear said:

Electric cars are like 3D television. A once in a generation fad that suckers people in but doesn't make sense. 

3D TVs died an early death, I think.

EVs holding a 13% share of market & climbing

https://www.ev-volumes.com/

@In the jungle

Or an EV, and never pay for petrol again.

You're concerned about 10k baht worth of insurance, on a 1M baht truck.  Just pray you don't lose more than 20% on the trade in, resale of it.

Most potential buyer would be concerned with why you are selling, possibly suspecting it got flooded.

Good luck

One can only hope not.   Wild animals left in the wild .... please.