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6 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Check with the office, my office takes them up to one year old.

Which office do you use?

Digging this up as I'd like to confirm something on the marriage certificate please.

My understanding is I should bring both Kor Ror 2 and 3.

Does any of them need to be recently dated? I got married last week, and will go apply to the extension next week.

Also, I plan to apply to convert my current TR to Non-O based on marriage around 60 days later.

I am going to use the CW office for these.

37 minutes ago, transam said:

Go to the place where they do ID cards, they look on the system to see if you are still married, they print off the details. Then they give it to the boss on duty to sign and date it...????

If mine is on 3-4 month old, will they accept it without me having to update it before my extension?

1 hour ago, transam said:

Kor Ror 2 is up to date info that you are still married, cost 20 bht and signed by the bossman..

Does this mean we need to submit a recently dated Kor Ror 2 doc, if so how do I get an updated one?

Perfect! Thank you DrJack!

Is there a shop where I can take 4 x 6 cm photos at CW immigration?

If so, where is it located please?

Thank you.

37 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

If your extension is not approved on the 16th you ask them to cancel your extension and apply for 60 day extension to visit your wife if you you have not gotten one since your last entry with a visa.

What if we already did a wife visit extension before? Would there be any option left?

I am planning to get a wife visit extension for my current TR visa, then get a Non-O, then an extension based on marriage, and reading this thread makes me anxious about the possibility of not being approved for the marriage extension in time. Has there been such a case here before?

Thank you both Ubonjoe and DrJoy.

A couple of further questions please:

1) How many days prior to the expiry of my Tourist Visa must I apply for this extension?

2) When I get the extension, will my stay be extended from the date of my original TR visa expiry day or from the date of extension? If it's the latter, I'm considering going a bit later, rather than sooner.

Thank you.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Aside: the way you type about non O and the 12 month extension....be aware the 12 month extension is separate application and no doubt you are aware of the financial requirements 2 months seasoning plus under consideration period.

After that you can use that money.

 

Re your wife and plan to go to USA be aware that of course you can apply for a 12 month extension every year.

It's an ongoing process that expats living here do every year. 

Correct, I am aware of the 2 months seasoning requirement for the Marriage extension. However, I'm now unsure if I understand all the nuances entirely and correctly, so let me please confirm my understanding:

- I cannot apply for the marriage extension without first being granted the Non-O visa

- So after having extended my TR visa for 60 more days based on wife visit, I should apply for a "change of visa type" to Non-O first

- The application of Non-O does not require the seasoning of money in the bank

- When the time comes for my marriage extension application, the money should have been properly seasoned 

Is my understanding correct?

I recently learned of the extension based on visiting a Thai spouse. After reading the requirements here (no.24), copied below for easy reference:

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In the case of visiting a spouse or children who are of Thai nationality:

Criteria for Consideration

1. There must be proof of relationship.
2. In the case of spouse, the relationship must be de jure and de facto.

Documents to be submitted

1. Application form
2. Copy of applicant’s passport
3. Copy of household registration certificate
4. Copy of national ID card of the person having Thai nationality
5. Copy of a marriage certificate or copy of a birth certificate

I have some questions, if anyone could help answer please:

1) How else do I prove the relationship with my wife is de facto. Should the marriage certificate alone be suffice?

2) I am currently on a Tourist Visa, so I'd need to use TM.7 for the application form, is this correct?

3) Copy of household registration certificate, is this referring to my wife's house book? Does it matter if she and I are now living together in a different address than what's in her house book? Her name is registered in another house, but she and I are currently living together in her sister's vacant house. Which house book should I use in this case?

I will be using the CW office to apply for the extension.

Thank you in advance!

12 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Your plan is fine.

Also to apply for the non O you need 15+ days remaining on your current permission of stay so the 60 day extension to visit wife can provide extra time to organize things.

The extension cost is 1900baht.

Thank you! After taking a look at the requirements for wife visit extension, I have some questions but I'll make a new thread for it now. ????

Thank you Ubonjoe and DrJack.

The extension for wife visit is new to me. I was originally planning to go straight for Non-O based on marriage.

I might still be a little confused here, so I'd like to ask if my plan here is viable.

I plan to bring my wife to the US eventually, but her visa will take around 1 year to be approved and issued, so in the meantime I'll stay with her here in Bangkok.

I am currently on a Tourist Visa, which will expire on Oct 3.

Now that I'm officially married to my wife, we have the marriage certificate, by Wednesday this week I was planning to go to CW to change my TR visa to Non-O based on marriage. From my understanding, that would give me 90 days + 1 year of extended stay in Thailand while we wait for my wife's US immigrant visa.

However, after discovering about the wife visit extension here, I am now thinking of doing this:

1) Firstly, apply for the wife visit extension (60 days) - the process seems to be a lot simpler than Non-O

2) 15 days before the wife visit extension expires, apply for Non-O based on marriage and get additional 90 days + 1 year extension of stay

This way, I can have even more time in Thailand while we wait for my wife's US visa.

Is this a viable plan, or is it better I go straight to Non-O based on marriage? Is there any cause for any concern? The ultimate goal is to make sure I can stay with my wife for as long as it takes for her US visa to be approved.

Thank you!

15 hours ago, BillStrangeOgre said:

...now i'm wondering what the hell to do!

They can definitely do the search! They just need to select the date range that includes your entry.

I grabbed the screenshot this way for my own extension.

On 9/7/2022 at 10:13 PM, DrJack54 said:

Your plan is fine.

Obtaining a non O marriage in Bangkok requires the 400k in bank account on day of application.

The added issue is that you require 15 days remaining on your permission of stay.

Keep in mind you have 2 avenues to obtain more time.

One is 30 day extension to your tourist visa and the other is 60 day extension to visit wife.

Some advice in thread is that you can open account with assistance from wife.

My recommendation is to use agent to facilitate this as it takes very little time. 

Approx cost 5k 

I'd like to ask further about the 60 day extension to visit wife please. What is this extension called officially? So I can look for the requirements for it.

Also, if I end up needing more time to prepare for Non-O based on marriage by getting this 60 day wife visit extension, I can still apply for Non-O based on marriage afterward, is that correct?

Thank you for your help in advance!

Just now, DrJack54 said:

For years CW have insisted on a hand drawn map showing distance from nearest intersection etc.

In more recent times reports from folks using Google map etc.

Personally I have been using a basic map from back of my condo flyer.

Just draw one to cover all bases. 

Sounds like a good plan! I guess I can do both.

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A map is not mentioned of the list of requirements for for a non-o visa but it might best to have one ready.

Requirments are here: https://www.immigration.go.th/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/6.FOR-PROVIDING-SUPPORT-TO-OR-BEING-A-DEPENDANT-OF-A-THAI-CITIZEN-SPOUSE-VISA-NON-O.pdf

It is actually mentioned toward the end of item 10. But yes, maybe best to provide anyway. ????

3 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

You will need a map and you will likely have a visit by Immigration officers.  Most places accept Google Map printout these days but only information from office you will be using can confirm, and you did not provide that.

Oh, I will be using the CW office. I am based in Bangkok.

Thank you everyone for the help. I really appreciate it.

One further question here: do I absolutely need to provide a map of the house? And does it need to be hand-drawn (I remember reading about this here a while ago).

1 minute ago, overherebc said:

Can I add here that it is important to ensure you know the difference between an extension of stay and a visa.

It can make a big difference in the answers you will get.

Best to state what you have at the moment, eg visa exempt entry, tourist visa etc and how long you have been in Thailand. Visas and extensions of stay are two different animals.

Not being picky, but those points help.

I am now on a Tourist Visa. Got married yesterday, and will apply for a Non-O based on marriage next week. 

So my understanding is I'll be applying to change my visa type, from TR to Non-O.

4 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Make sure your photo on the back of the TM 7 is up to date by the way. I had to get one done downstairs, near the big DTAC shop.

Oh, did you mean TM86?

My understanding is TM7 is for extension of Tourist Visa? I am applying for Non-O based on marriage.

4 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Yes, forgot that. Supplied to Imm' at same time.

My wife did TM30 reporting online. Can we use a screenshot from the online system to show? ????

Hello everyone. I am currently living with my wife in one of her sister's house, and we do not need to pay any rent.

One of the requirements for Non-O based on marriage mentions a rental receipt of past 3 months:

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Other Relevant Documents such as; Rental Agreement between the Applicant and The Landlord. With a copy of ID card and House Registration of the Landlord (certified true copy by the Landlord) ; Condo or House purchase agreement ; Location the house or condo map and a rental receipt Past three months

Since we do not have any receipts to show, is it going to be okay if we submit only a letter by my wife's sister stating she's letting us stay in the house for the next year or so, without rent?

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

To obtain the non O marriage you will require a Thai bank account with deposit of 400k.

In other words you require the account prior to obtaining the non O 

Do you have a Thai bank account? 

I don't have an account currently, which is why I came here for advice on how and where to open one. 

At the moment I feel like it will be difficult so I am considering using an agent to help open one, but it will not be the CW branch.

Once I have an account opened, I will wire in 400k through WISE, or transfer 400k from my wife's account into my newly opened account (since the advice here said they wouldn't check the source of the money).

Do you see anything that could go wrong with this plan? Also, I have to ask again, will I still be able to use the CW branch for the letter of guarantee and updated bankbook?

15 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Haven't read your previous posts. 

So you don't have a Thai bank account currently.

How are you in Thailand.

Meaning visa exempt, tourist visa, ? 

I am on Tourist Visa but getting married with my to-be wife tomorrow. I will obtain Non-O next.

Does this change anything in your advice?

44 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

No.

Open account anywhere in Bangkok and CW branch will provide you with "bank letter" 

100 baht. 

That is such a relief! 

Honestly, I have been overwhelmed by all these bank requirements, and it's great to know that at least this part of the process will be simple enough. Thank you for your help!