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Yes - if this was actually true- we'd see these reports immediately. There are significant numbers of foreigners extending these visas every week. No need to wonder, the predatory agency paid him for sure, and why? Pretty clear! How senior? I'd be surprised if he's anything other than a former employee. He states he "used to" work for immigration.....

Sorry, no. It is you that has missed the point. No, because it has never happened - and 99% of retired foreigners living in Thailand have never filed a Thai tax return. Have you ever heard of a single "culprit"? This agency is making things up to drive business - classic fear mongering. No, the required 65k is simply funds remitted to Thailand. There has never been, nor is now, any requirement that these funds are "income" or have been subject to Thai taxation. There is no "verification". Again, they are are making this up.

That webinar was a joke. Zero credibility. Firstly, they state a tax return is a document required for a retirement extension using the income method. This is false, there's never been a report anywhere to that effect. If there was -it'd be all over this forum and other places. So simply, patently untrue. Secondly - they state a tax return isn't required for a retirement extension using the "800k in the bank" method. Thai taxation is based on income, for foreign income it's based on "remitted". The 65k monthly income can come from savings ( non assessable, non taxable) or other types of non assessable income e.g. US social security, or remittance of capital. Therefore a retirement extension based on the income method- can be qualified for with no obligation or need to file a Thai tax return. Equally, the 800k in the bank can come from remitted foreign taxable income and therefore give rise to technically an obligation to file a tax return. So their statements on this are simply, complete rubbish. There is currently, no link at all between thai taxation and the retirement visa. As much as the predatory tax agencies would like you to think there is, there isn't.

Jing lor? (Really?) So the pet Immigration officer is stating retirement visa extensions using the income method require a Thai tax return? If this was even remotely close to the truth - you'd be seeing it in multiple reports across the forum. Have I missed something? But as is usual with anything from this "agency", it's a sly fabrication slickly presented as fact. Be very careful with anything you read or see from this source.

You want clarity? IMO - not a single person has ever paid thai tax on a foreign credit card purchase.

Ah, good to hear. Looks like you and I are done on this anyway, that is, until the next thing is required!

Same here. Firstly staff had no idea what to do, they eventually they got my face scanned , then for whatever reason created me a new passbook and binned the old one. Did you have the same, or no passbook required? I also still have the notification present in the app, no idea what will happen on 2 July! TIT!

What gives you that impression?

Covid cannot spread while eating Moo Kata or Shabu Shabu, surely everyone knows that.

Yes, but there's a difference between "recommended", and "allowed/eligible" - if the parents make an individual health decision on behalf of their child. The US ( and many/most other countries) do not "recommend" the covid vaccine generally for children. However, children are eligible for one if the parents decide this is necessary. Individual health choice. That's a good thing. It remains correct, that for the vast majority of children, the covid vaccine is unnecessary.

I'll leave the differing opinions on the effectiveness of PPE aside, but he does have a valid point. "Unnecessary" is the correct description for covid vaccinations for the vast majority of children, and the health authorities of the world broadly agree on that. Please be aware that that the NHS doesn't offer free covid vaccinations for children, unless in the exceptional case they have a severe condition.

Most countries no longer recommend covid vaccination for children (excepting those with severe existing conditions). UK, Germany, Australia..... many more examples.

Thank you, yes makes sense. Summary, the covid vaccine is unnecessary for the vast majority of children. However, if parents wish to vaccinate their children they can make this choice, safely, as an individual health decision for their children.

@Sheryl thanks for your usual sensible advice. In my home countries (x2), which have very strong, well respected health systems, covid vaccines are not recommended for children under 18 without existing complex health conditions. So for the vast majority of children, covid vaccines are not recommended. Does Thailand offer different public health guidance?

Correct. This thread should be taken down as it adds nothing to the discussion and just creates more confusion.

This example shows why remittance taxation is an absolute joke, and why almost nowhere in the world has it. It's unworkable in the real world. In your example, the 110 remittance wouldn't be liable for any thai tax under the proposed reinterpretation of the foreign income exemption.

https://library.siam-legal.com/thai-law/revenue-code-assessable-income-and-income-tax-sections-40-64/ It is there in black and white, I have even made it bold for you. Non assessable / exempt income remitted is not required to be listed on a Thai tax return. This includes UK Government Pensions and US Social Security. You suggesting otherwise is plain wrong.

Thanks for posting but the article only refers to remitted income. Not ALL income worldwide. It's just a slightly clearer version of the one posted yesterday. Suggest you change the title of the topic as it doesn't reflect the content of the article.

Deflecting, irrelevant comments. Non assessable / exempt income remitted is not required to be listed on a Thai tax return. Even the predatory "expat" tax agencies agree with this, and that's saying something.

I'm only dealing pensions here. A Pension over 60k / 120k / 220k a year is assessable income according to Section 40 ( 1 ) of the Thai Revenue Code. And as a Thai Tax Resident I should file a tax return. Agreed ? So I file Tax Return as required by Law and then claim a Tax Exemption by providing the evidence that it is a Government Pension, and is only taxable in the UK according to the UK - Thai DTA. No, you're completely incorrect. A UK Government Pension, as with US Social security, is non-assessable / exempt and is not required to be listed/declared at all in a Thai tax return. If it was, the TRD would have been requiring this for many years, and they never have. The POR internal directives released in 2023 are unrelated to this.

Correct Correct These people are completely misinformed. The TRD has no interest in receiving tax returns declaring non assessable/exempt foreign income. To explain further- If the TRD did want this - they would have been requiring it for many years already, as exempt income ( one example being US SSC) is commonly remitted same year earned.

Correct on all counts, you're clear.

Spot on, well said. Assuming this change is implemented as written, this thread will be of little to no use. It wasn't necessary before the internal directive changed, and it won't be once it changes again. Happy Days, indeed. I too have sympathy for the individuals, especially those who were frightened enough to leave the country etc, a massive overreaction IMO, but given the hysteria, understandable for some. I have no sympathy however, for the predatory 'tax agencies' who have been responsible for much of the 'conning' , who will need to find a new business model, as (assuming this goes through) processing tax returns for expats will be close to non-existent.

Absolutely spot on, you hit the nail on the head. Very well said.

Well I was planning on it in 2026 and I was only planning on remitting the minimum amount to live on. This opens the door to spending a lot more. And that is exactly the intent of them changing the guidelines, maybe, just maybe, they are actually on to something sensible this time!