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I managed to do my first 90-day non-O retirement visa at Jomtien, in the back office. I had an overkill of paperwork and I tried to explain in thai what I had and the (dragon) lady just rifled through it all and said very abruptly, this is what I want, copied three times and signed, and it will be accepted. Address requirements were minimum 3 month [duplicate] rental contract, ID card of owner, tabien baan of both the apartment and also the address on the ID card. It appeared like it was intended to be as difficult as possible. Now my main question: I am now living in BKK on a 6 month contract and while I would love to move back to somewhere near the sea, I wish to get my 2nd annual visa extension sorted out first, if possible, before moving. The requirements of the ID card of the owner and the tabien baan of both the apartment and ID card address, do limit my choices of accommodation. Would be eternally grateful, if anyone knows whether JW requires similar proof of address documentation, or it's just up to the IO on duty that day? My second question, which I really would like to start a whole new topic on, is which jangwats enforce this proof of address and which do not?

I understood that to be the case, but was asking what options were available that didn't require standing in a long queue, outside in the heat. Jomtien is building an extension to the right hand side so hopefully will help alleviate the process. Red Phoenix kindly sent me his detailed guide of the online process and will try and get it working with my latest passport, which previously failed. One question, as it was my very first in-person 90 day report. Is it normal to not fill in a TM47 form? Hopefully next time will be able to do it all online.

I have just completed my first 90 day report at Jomtien, which the letter seem to only require me to show that the 800k was still in my account. Firstly, they didn't check my original bank book but just accepted the photocopies. Secondly, they never asked me to fill in a TM47 form or ask about my address, so just presumed they used the current one. Thirdly, for the first time ever, I didn't need to sign anything, which was a contrast to having to sign absolutely every page previously. I wish to move, e.g change my address. When the 90 day report queue was empty, I went and asked politely in clear Thai, what I needed to do, but the officer was mosty uninterested, as she watching a female wrestling in skimpy attire video, but her colleague arrived and said I needed to change the piece of paper, detailing my address, clipped into my passport in the (TM28/TM30?) room, to the left. Previously, my rental contracts were all in my long term partner's name and she always did the change of address with zero hassle, either in person or before with the app when it worked. The only time I have been required to do it was when I did my first recent annual extension and had to go through the "we can't find your current address in the computer" until I showed them all the housing documents and signed id copies and then it was ok. Would appreciate any advice on the least painful method to change an alien's address at Jomtien, whilst on a one year extension of stay (retirement).

Thank you for clarifying that for me. Appreciated. I had vaguely heard before that some type of visits to immigartion supersede the 90 day report, but was never sure what they were, as this is the first time I have done the DIY route, so it is still all new to me.

Thank you for the informative update At Jomtien, I didn't have to do a video chat, but an IO, and his friend, visited me on the very next day after my application was successfully submitted. Rang me up and told me they were on their way to me and to wait for them in front of the building. They couldn't find the place, so I explained in Thai how to find it and stood out in the street waving. They took a few photos at the entrance and lobby and filled in another form confirming my address. That was after submitting the original contract plus three copies, signed on every page. Along with the signed tabien baan of and ID card of the owner and the tabien baan of the actualy rental address. Required a 3 month or more rental contract in either my name, or my partners and my name.

Does the 90 days reporting requirement start from when I entered the country on a 30 day non-exempt OR when I converted to a 90 day non-O visa? During the non-O conversation they kept my original rental contract and required an additional three copies, signed on every page, and sent an IO to my address the next day to fill in another different form to confirm my address and take several photos at my residence. I have dual nationality and I have reported using a different nationality with an agent, but this will be the first time I will have reported using this nationality. Will I need to go in person for the first 90 day report? I ask as ever since they started fingerprint scanning, the computer system appears to have an issue with me, at both entry and exit points, and often a supervisor is required to come and help the IO as I have to scan my fingers and take my photo half a dozen, or more, times before they finally get it to complete.

Thank you, as you are the first person to mention the letter from the bank, as I've heard about it, but wasn't sure when it was required. How long does it take for the bangkok Bank to produce the letter verifying the 800k funds? Can I extend my visa exempt for 30 days and then convert to a 90 day Non-O visa based upon retirement?

I have a Bangkok Bank account with the 800k in it, but want to have all my ducks in a row regarding the proof of address, which would be straight forward at chaengwattana, but certainly not at Pattaya and maybe Phuket.

Yes it is certainly surprising that so few people have asked or have any recent experience. The agents I have asked want to charge far more than is being quoted on this thread and offer no reduction for the 800k in the bank.

How much did Maneerat charge you as they said told me there was no reduction in their updated price for having 800k in the bank?

I am confident that would be the case in Bangkok or any of the changwats which do not have a large number of foreigner retirees. Are there any unwritten rules, which would hinder doing an 1 year extension upcountry and then living somewhere else for most the year? Do you have to have lived inone place for 3 months to then do a one year extension?

It has been noted that using an agent is an option. If you want to discuss pros and cons of using an agent, then please start another topic. All this is new to me and would appreciate it if anyone is kind enough to share exactly what was accepted whilst renting to do a DIY Jomtien retirement conversion and/or annual extension.

Regarding a rental contract, Jomtien appears to be the only place, which requires the landlord's ID and house registration and also a Copy of the household registration that the room you rent. Presume that means you need a signed copy of the Tabean Bann for both the landlord's address on their ID card and also for the property that is on the rental contract. Also presume that the same would be required for renting an apartment, as well as a house or condo. Is there a minimun length of the rental contract? Must it be a 1 year contract or can it be 3 or 6 months? From all the added address requirements, I think it would be a stretch to hope that Jomtien would accept a rental contract in your Thai partner's name along with her ID and signed declaration of living together. It would be greatly appreciated, if anyone who has recent experience could confirm what was accepted.

What is required to convert from an exempt, and presume TR, to a Non-O based on retirement? I appreciate you can use an agent, but would like to know what is required without using an agent. If anyone has manged to acheive this recently at the Jomtien office then would love to know how.

I completely agree.