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Dry herb vape recommendation anyone?
HugoFastor replied to LukKrueng's topic in Thailand Cannabis Forum
I’ve noticed that these stainless steel dosing capsules tend to expand slightly over time, likely due to heat from the dry herb vape’s oven. When this happens, the lid no longer attaches securely because the mouth of the capsule becomes a bit too wide. To fix this, I’ve found that gently placing the capsule in a vice grip, with the mouth of the capsule facing down between the jaws, works best. Once the capsule is in position, tighten the vice grip screw just slightly to apply light pressure to the capsule’s mouth. You only need a minor adjustment, perhaps just a fraction of a millimeter, to allow the lid to fit snugly into the mouth of the capsule again. If I accidentally over-squeeze and the mouth of the capsule becomes too narrow for the lid, I use a wide flathead screwdriver. I insert the screwdriver head into the capsule and gently twirl it in a circular motion to apply slight outward pressure, expanding the sides of the capsule just enough for the lid to fit properly in place again. With all these adjustments, the key is to go slowly and gently to avoid applying too much pressure to the mouth of the capsule in any one direction. -
Comparing these two photos, the weed doesn't look like the same stuff. In the first photo, the buds look dense and tight with some trichomes. In the second photo they look dry, loose, and no trichomes. You also mentioned it has no real taste or smell. That's not very common for cannabis, whether or not it's grown indoors or outdoors, it's unusual for it to have no real taste or smell when, in fact, cannabis buds are typically aromatic flowers and, at the very least, will have a reasonable amount of taste when you smoke them. You also mentioned that it has high THC, but without any sort of THC test, or being able to gauge what your own THC tolerance level is, that could be a subjective evaluation. I've also purchased a lot of low priced flower, very similar in price to yours, but from other vendors, and the taste and smell was very strong. So low priced bud doesn't necessarily lack smell and flavor just because it is low priced. Washed bud can sometimes also be harder and denser because it’s been dried out more than usual during the washing process. Cannabis that has been washed and dried thoroughly also becomes brittle and crumbly, which might cause it to shatter when ground. Fresh cannabis typically has some moisture and resin content, giving it a sticky, malleable texture rather than a shattering one. So based on everything I've seen and heard here so far, I would agree, it does look and sound a lot like washed bud. Personally I would avoid it myself, but if your satisfied with it and enjoy it then no problem.
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“Washed bud” refers to cannabis flower that has gone through a process known as “water hash” or “bubble hash” extraction, which uses ice water to remove trichomes — the resin glands that contain cannabinoids (THC, CBD) and terpenes (aromatic compounds). The washing process separates the trichomes from the plant material, producing a concentrated hash or extract, while the cannabis flower itself becomes “washed,” meaning that it has lost most of its potency and aroma. In other words, washed bud is cannabis that has already been used for extraction. While it retains the appearance of whole cannabis flower, it no longer contains significant levels of cannabinoids or terpenes and is generally not useful for smoking or further extraction. The process of washing cannabis with ice water removes trichomes, but it leaves the structure of the cannabis flower itself intact. Here’s how this works: 1. What’s Being Removed: THC, CBD, and other cannabinoids are primarily concentrated in the trichomes, which are tiny, crystal-like resin glands that cover the surface of the cannabis flower, especially the buds. Trichomes are sticky and brittle, especially when cold. They contain most of the psychoactive and aromatic compounds, like cannabinoids and terpenes. 2. The Ice Water Process: In the ice water washing (or “bubble hash”) process, the cannabis is mixed with cold water and ice. The cold temperature makes the trichomes more brittle and less sticky, allowing them to break off easily from the plant material. Agitation (either by hand or machine) is then used to knock these trichomes off the flower. 3. Filtration: Once the trichomes detach, the mixture is filtered through a series of fine mesh bags (known as “bubble bags”) with increasingly smaller micron sizes. These bags capture the trichomes while letting the plant material, or the “washed bud,” pass through. 4. Appearance of Washed Bud: Since only the trichomes are removed, the rest of the flower structure remains relatively untouched. This means that the washed buds will look almost the same as they did before, but now they’re missing their trichomes and, consequently, most of their potency. Under a microscope or a close inspection, you’d see fewer or no trichomes on washed bud compared to fresh cannabis flower. 5. Final Product: The washed buds look intact but are significantly less potent, as they’ve lost the primary source of cannabinoids and terpenes. This makes them largely unsuitable for smoking or further extraction, though some people may use them in low-potency infusions. This process is popular in creating bubble hash, a high-quality cannabis concentrate, while the remaining washed bud is typically discarded or used for low-potency applications. It can happen that unscrupulous vendors might try to sell washed bud as if it were regular, potent cannabis. Since washed buds retain much of the visual appearance of fresh cannabis — like size, shape, and color — but lack potency, they can be passed off to unsuspecting buyers who may not immediately realize that the buds have been stripped of their trichomes. However, there are a few ways to spot washed bud: 1. Trichome Density: Under close inspection, washed bud usually has a duller appearance due to the lack of shiny trichomes. Fresh cannabis has a frosty look because of these resin glands, which are mostly missing on washed bud. 2. Aroma: Washed bud often lacks the strong smell typical of high-quality cannabis. Terpenes, which are responsible for aroma, are mostly stripped away during washing, so the buds may smell weak or slightly “off.” 3. Feel and Stickiness: Fresh cannabis is usually slightly sticky because of its resin content. Washed bud, however, feels drier and less tacky. 4. Price and Source: Washed bud is often very inexpensive compared to high-potency cannabis. If someone is offering a “too good to be true” deal on flower, it could be a red flag.
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Yeah, it could be that. They might've sucked most of the THC and trichomes out of it to make some sort of extract or oil and now they're selling what's left of it dirt cheap to any takers. Hard for anyone to complain too when they are charging such a low price. What you got left there looks really washed out. Flowers don't usually look that dry, loose, and lacking color variation unless it's been washed or unless it's just some really cheap outdoor grown bunk.
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You have obviously never vaped cannabis or tried a beautifully flavored edible cannabis oil infusion.
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With my edible infused cannabis MCT oil that I make, I assume that I could get the effect to last longer and it would only require a higher dose. But I don't really want it to last more than 4-5 hours anyway, which is what I normally get with the dose that I take and it sounds equal to the effective time of your cookies that you make. When I suggested making your own oil, I was only suggesting making the edible cannabis oil that we have been discussing here, not the type of cannabis oil used for vaping. It seems like it would be an easier process than making cookies. And once you have this edible cannabis oil, it can last a year in the fridge, or maybe longer, and it becomes a very small and portable item. And one batch of it can last me many months, but I usually give away some of it to friends too. The main reason I mentioned the other type of cannabis oil though, the non-edible type, is because sometimes people get confused when I say cannabis oil, and they don't know if I'm referring to the edible type or not. But I realize you know the difference. I was just adding a bit of extra unrelated information there in my previous post.
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This edible cannabis oil that we are discussing here is basically just another form of a cannabis edible in my opinion. I guess the main difference between the cannabis oil I make and the cookies you are making is that perhaps the absorption of the THC from the cookies takes a bit longer to take effect than the oil. Once the oil gets quickly digested and absorbed, it goes in and out of the bloodstream relatively quick too, in say 4-5 hours, as compared to some of these homemade edible cookies, brownies or gummies, where people have put in a very high dose of concentrated THC and then the high can last as long as 10-12 hours. I think being high for that long would be a bit overwhelming for me. Why not try making your own oil instead of the cookies though? Then you can experiment with how many drops you need to achieve the desired effect and eventually arrive at the perfect dose for yourself without overdoing it. I've found with the edible oil though, and with vaping regular cannabis flower, that if I get up, move around and then eat something, that it reduces the high if I'm feeling it coming on too strong. Sometimes when I mention cannabis oil though people assume that it's something to be vaped or used in a dab. Even the manufacture of the vaporizer that I use offers a separate capsule that you can insert into the vaporizer to use to vape cannabis oil. But that's a totally different type of cannabis oil. That's not a cannabis oil infusion made by boiling it up along with a form of edible oil. That's an actual real cannabis oil extracted from the cannabis plant that contains concentrated levels of THC, CBD and terpenes. But that's also something that is not edible at all, nor can you easily make it at home yourself. And I think it's risky to buy that stuff in general because it's hard to know if you're getting the real natural stuff extracted from the plant, which is relatively safe to vape, or if you are getting something mixed with unhealthy oils and chemicals. So I basically stay away from any form of cannabis oil that can be heated up and inhaled and I stick to only the edible cannabis oil that I make myself.
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I guess you could not strain the oil and then consume the cannabis together with the oil if you wanted to. It’s been fully cooked, so it shouldn’t cause any serious indigestion. Never thought of it or heard of it being done though. And correctly dosing the oil might be a lot trickier if it still contained the cannabis. I guess the assumption is that the material isn’t of much use anymore after doing a 4-5 hour infusion with it. Some of it also gets a bit burnt, plus it is a bit hard from cooking for so long, so it really won’t taste great. I once also read about someone doing something else with it after straining it, but I can’t remember exactly what that was. You don’t want to smoke it or vape it though because you wouldn’t want the oil going into your lungs. But it does still contain some THC because not all of the THC gets fully extracted during the infusion process. But I don’t know how much THC is actually left. It probably depends on how potent the cannabis was to start with. I also read that there is a saturation limit in terms of how much of the THC that the oil can actually absorb. I think it’s like 15 grams of cannabis (assuming it contains 25% THC) is the absorption limit to 1/4 liter (250ML) of oil. But I take the sledgehammer approach when I make an oil infusion and use a lot more cannabis than what is generally recommended. I don’t mind if I waste some. I rather be sure I end up with a potent finished result. But since I use a lot more than the recommended amount of cannabis for my infusions, there is a good possibility that there is still a fair amount of THC left in my cannabis after infusing and straining. But I just dump it anyway since I don’t know what else to do with it.
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Here is my experience with dosing of my cannabis oil: 5 Drops (1/8 ML) - Very little to no psychoactive/high feeling. But still a bit of relaxation, often useful to help with sleep. 10 Drops (1/4 ML) - A decent level of relaxation and feeling high that sets in after about an hour and runs for another 3-4 hours. 20 Drops (1/2 ML) - A powerful and intense high that lasts 4-5 hours, starting an hour after ingesting it. I have never taken more than 1/2 ML of my oil at once. It seems quite strong and concentrated and it could be too much for me. I have a decent tolerance, but perhaps people with a higher tolerance would be comfortable to take more of the oil than I.
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I make my own cannabis oil using cannabis flower that has 25%+ THC and then I infuse it into MCT oil. I use about 35 grams of dried cannabis flower together with a 210ml bottle of MCT oil that I purchase online. I first decarb the cannabis by putting it in a mason jar and I create a double boiler setup by placing the mason jar containing the cannabis into a cooking pot together with boiling water. I decarb first for an hour at a temperature of around 220°F. Then I add the MCT oil into the mason jar with the decarbed cannabis flower and boil it in the double boiler setup again at around 180°F for another 5 hours for the infusion process. Then I strain it all out to separate the infused oil from the cannabis flower using a fine metal tea strainer and then strain it a second time using a coffee press. Then I discard the used cannabis after straining and I keep only the oil. Normally around 35% of the oil gets permanently absorbed by the cannabis, can't be strained out, and is lost in the process. So I usually get about 140ml of infused cannabis oil from 210ml of oil. If you use less cannabis then there will be a lower percentage of loss of oil (perhaps half the amount of cannabis that I use would be adequate), but I use a high cannabis to oil ratio to ensure a highly concentrated cannabis oil is reached. Then I split the strained out oil into 10ml (medical grade) glass dropper bottles for easy consumption and storage in the fridge. I don't further cook the finished cannabis oil into any food or make any kind of edibles with it. I just eat/swallow the infused oil the way that it is by putting it onto a spoon and then put it into my mouth and swallow it. I sometimes flavor it first by mixing in some concentrated vanilla and banana flavor extracts or I just consume it plain. Sometimes I also drip it on top of a piece of chocolate first and then eat it. More info about the basic steps I follow here: https://emilykylenutrition.com/cannabis-infused-mct-oil
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Dry herb vape recommendation anyone?
HugoFastor replied to LukKrueng's topic in Thailand Cannabis Forum
Your welcome. I think perhaps there is a misunderstanding about session time. The only purpose of a longer session time on the device is to keep the device on for a longer period of time so that one can take longer breaks between inhales without the machine shutting itself off. But session time doesn't increase the effectivity of the cannabis or how many useful hits you can get from one capsule simply because you keep the machine powered on for a longer period of time. The amount of cannabis that goes into one capsule is less than half a joint. It is somewhere around one bong hit. So, as I said, I normally take about four hits from a capsule and then dump it. If you keep hitting on the same capsule over and over there will be diminishing returns and very likely no added benefit. There is only so much THC contained in that small amount of cannabis in the capsule. So continuing to vape the from the same capsule over and over is not going to make you feel more high simply by doing more inhales from the same used-up capsule. If after 20 minutes you think that the high that you feel is not that strong then I would vape two freshly loaded capsules back to back instead of continuing to hit on the same used capsule over and over again. Do it like this: Take four, long hits off the first capsule. Then remove the capsule and replace it with a fresh one and take another four long hits. Then, after 20 minutes, you should be feeling very high, assuming it is good quality weed. And don't worry about the session time. Just take breaks between your hits based on what feels comfortable for you. I normally take four hits from a capsule within about a 2 to 3 minute period and then manually shut the machine off. I also don't normally need to vape a second capsule right away because four good hits from one capsule is usually enough for me. If I am going to vape more then I normally wait about 90 minutes to 2 hours before vaping a second capsule. But it all depends on the strength/level/amount of the THC contained within in the cannabis you are using and your own personal tolerance level. -
Dry herb vape recommendation anyone?
HugoFastor replied to LukKrueng's topic in Thailand Cannabis Forum
Congratulations on your new acquisition. What you are tasting on the first two pulls is the real flavor of the cannabis. Something you may not have experienced before from smoking. Also, you will notice that different cannabis strains often have a very different flavor. Some taste a lot like pine. Others have a more fruity flavor. After the second pull it starts to taste a bit cooked though from being heated so high. At 190c you need to smoke it like a bong, not like a joint. So you need to do some long, 6-7 second pulls to get a good hit. If you want to do short puffs like a joint, then kick the temperature up to 210c, but be prepared for a harsher flavor. Also, I always open the sliding side vent on the vape all the way for better airflow. Also, even if you do a very long and hard pull on the first hit at 190c, you normally won't see any smoke come out of your mouth until the second or third hit. At 210c you might see smoke on the first hit. But the amount of vape smoke isn't important. If you are vaping at 190c, and doing long pulls, you should still get good THC on each inhale, even if you don't see much smoke. I pack my capsules with about 0.2 grams to avoid packing them too tight. I used to use about 0.25 grams, but it was more work to get a hit. I don't measure the weight though. I know now by how packed it feels and that it's about 0.2 grams that I'm putting in there. I don't vape the capsules based on session time, but based on hits. I used to do about 6 pulls before dumping the capsule out. But after the first 4 pulls the THC gets much weaker and the taste really declines. So now I just do 4 good pulls and dump it. I mainly use flower that has 25%+ THC. So 4 pulls out of a 0.2% gram loaded capsule gets me high for about 2 hours. Then I usually do a second one after about 90 minutes to keep the buzz going. If I use some lower grade flower with around 12-15% THC, then I normally only feel it for about an hour. If you are only feeling it for about 20 minutes then either the flower you are using is not very potent or you are not taking in enough vape. You should feel it pretty strong for at least an hour from 4 good pulls, even if the THC content of the flower isn't very high. Or maybe you have a very high tolerance. Anyway, 2 capsules is equal to about a joint, or maybe a bit less. So think of it like that. If you normally smoke at least a full joint to get high, then you should probably be vaping about two capsules. -
Dry herb vape recommendation anyone?
HugoFastor replied to LukKrueng's topic in Thailand Cannabis Forum
The method being discussed here is vaping, which works through induction heating. That means no open flame, no burning and no combustion, which means no particles going into your lungs. Only cannabinoids being inhaled in the form of vapors. Here is the science from a doctor: -
Dry herb vape recommendation anyone?
HugoFastor replied to LukKrueng's topic in Thailand Cannabis Forum
210 is good too. I've tried 200 and 210. But by the 3rd draw at 210 the herb gets really hot and I start to cough. I think anything above 170 is enough heat to draw out the THC. I normally go at 190 or 195 if the flower has a lot of resin.