Red Phoenix

A multi-billion profit-driven industry needs to protect its raison d'etre at all cost and with all possible means. Luckily they have over decades brainwashed the populace with their 'safe and effective' mantra. And then there are of course the useful 'so called science believers' as well as many profiteers that are in the know have been bought and will stop at nothing to defend that perfidious industry.

What a load of self-righteous bull!

Yes, spot on! Except for a couple of sociopaths on this Covid sub-Forum, the majority of posters here shouting 'conspiracy nonsense' on every new revelation about these killer-shots, by now do know deep-down that they have been played. It's a combination of pride (not wanting to admit they were fooled), guilt (when they harmed their loved ones by having them jabbed) and shame (when they demonized those that tried to warn them). It will be a hard awakening...

If there's anything I learned since the roll-out of the mRNA Covid-19 gen-'vaccine', then it's that there is absolutely no need to apologize for being a vaccine sceptic...

Nope, the prime drivers for polio are poor sanitation and nutrition. But obviously a toxic environment, will also contribute to outbreaks. Excerpt from the article: Sanitation and nutrition still lag in key areas. Polio (and its analogues) are fundamentally diseases of poverty and poor sanitation. The virus spreads via fecal-oral routes, flourishing where clean water and sewage treatment are absent. In the 1950s West, polio's fade coincided with improved hygiene and living conditions -- even before vaccines. Today, Afghanistan, Pakistan, parts of Africa -- the last holdouts of wild polio -- are regions where conflict and poverty prevent consistent sanitation or basic healthcare. As Dr. Anant Phadke and Dr. C. Sathyamala argued, "it is not possible to eradicate polio, a disease primarily of poor sanitation and nutrition, with a vaccine."⁶⁸ A "holistic approach" of development was needed, but the eradication program fixated on OPV drops instead⁶⁹. Even if they manage to snuff out wild polio in these areas, the conditions are ripe for some pathogen to cause similar paralysis -- be it a vaccine-derived strain, or some enterovirus, or something yet unknown. Without addressing root causes (clean water, nutrition, exposure to toxins), eradication is a fool's errand.

Oh yes, the polio vaccine DOES work, but not in the way that you think. Here a small excerpt from the article, which you quite obviously didn't read. ... All this led Dr. T. Jacob John, one of India's most renowned polio experts, to dub this the OPV's "dirty secret." As he told Down To Earth magazine, OPV viruses are "notorious for causing vaccine-induced polio... they can mutate into a virulent form, causing paralytic polio in others, even leading to polio epidemics."57,58 The response of authorities when Indian doctors reported these problems? "They were asked to increase the number of doses given to children."59,60 Just give more vaccine -- essentially doubling down on a failing strategy. "Those vaccinated are 6.26 times more likely to be paralysed." -- Finding of Indian pediatricians on aggressive OPV campaigns61,62 The OPV paradox is now fully acknowledged by scientists (if not by politicians like Trump). A 2007 article co-authored by leading virologist Dr. Olen Kew at WHO bluntly stated: "Once wild poliovirus transmission has been interrupted by OPV, the very tool responsible...poses challenges" due to VAPP and VDPV risk⁷⁷. In 2019, an AP report noted that vaccine-strain outbreaks in Africa were outpacing wild outbreaks, calling it "an unexpected setback" for eradication⁷⁶. ...

It's clear that you didn't read the article when asking that question. "Take the first U.S. polio outbreaks in the 1890s. These coincided with the introduction of lead-arsenate insecticides in agriculture. An arsenic-based pesticide called Paris Green had come into use against infestations (e.g. the gypsy moth), until it was found too phytotoxic; it was then replaced by lead arsenate around 1892-1893. "Coincidentally, the first outbreak of paralysis in the U.S. in over 50 years occurred in Boston during this time," one historical review notes."

Did you actually read the article? The author did make a strong case for his argument. But you did chose the 'smear the messenger' route, and are now attempting to wriggle out of it. Case closed.

To all Fauci-defenders > This thread is focused on ONE simple question: Did Fauci lie under oath about him not asking his staff/colleagues to 'delete "delete this after you read it"? And e-mail evidence has turned up, proving that he did so. So he committed perjury, plain and simple. And deserves jail-time.

The usual ad-hominem BS. It would NOT be difficult to confront Fauci with his lies while under oath that he (Fauci) never told colleagues/staff to "delete this after you read it", when the e-mails prove that he did so. That's perjury, and punishable with jail-time. Looking forward seeing that criminal squirm...

Your counter-argument was to 'check the qualifications of the author', which has nothing to do with the quality of the arguments he presents in this article.

... Then why this obsession with titles, qualifications and peer-reviewed studies. Let the quality of the arguments presented be the determining factor whether his arguments are valid, sound and believable.

To put it bluntly > the qualifications of an author are irrelevant. It's the quality of the argument that he is presenting that matters. And this is a well-written and well-researched article and should not be dismissed with 'ad honinem' non-arguments, which are the last resort of those that have no counter-arguments.

Nope, alternative ideas supported by facts.

Newly Released Emails Show Fauci Lied Under Oath Claiming He Did Not Direct Colleagues to “Delete This After You Read It” Source: https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/breaking-newly-released-emails-show = = = Yesterday, Senator Rand Paul issued a stern warning on X… …and sure enough, today he has made good on his promise: The article contains both the letter to Fauci in a better readable format, as well as additional incriminating evidence against him. > https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/breaking-newly-released-emails-show

It never ceases to amaze me, that people instead of looking into the arguments presented, spend time to look up the author {or the channel on which he published his arguments), on biased 'Fact-check' sites, and use that borrowed assessment then as an excuse to dismiss the issue instead of making up their own minds. Let me remind you that this is the 'Off the Beaten Track' forum, where compliance with the 'accepted narrative' is NOT a requirement, Just an open mind to consider and discuss alternative ideas.

Why the FDA Doesn’t Support Covid Boosters Forever The emergency is over, and the U.S. is joining other nations in shifting to a risk-tiered approach on vaccines. Source: https://archive.is/uTCkD#selection-729.0-729.588 = = = WallStreetJournal Opinion Piece by dr Marty MAKARY, current FDA commissioner The Food and Drug Administration last week approved Covid-19 vaccines for adults over 65 and for people 6 months and older who have one or more risk factors that put them at high risk of severe Covid. This regulatory framework brings the U.S. in line with peer nations—in France such vaccines are recommended for people over 80 and in the U.K, for people over 75. Although the world has moved on to a risk-tiered approach, some in the American medical establishment are maintaining their blind faith in a strategy of boosters for all in perpetuity. They should consider these six points: - First, the FDA can approve products only if we believe there is substantial certainty that the benefits outweigh the risks. Currently, we don’t have that confidence for, say, a seventh Covid shot for healthy 12-year-old girl who recently recovered from Covid. - Second, if your doctor deems that you need a Covid vaccine, you can still get one. The FDA can’t regulate the practice of medicine. The FDA grants marketing authorizations, but doctors are able to prescribe drugs off label to people at low risk. In a few states, pharmacists may require a prescription. ... Read full Opinion piece here > https://archive.is/uTCkD#selection-729.0-729.588

Lawyer Aaron Siri’s congressional testimony yesterday revealing a suppressed study comparing health outcomes of vaxxed vs unvaxxed children, just provided the deathblow to the child inoculation scheme. Look it up yourself.

When a chronical ill old geezer rambles about the success of his battery of meds and vaccines, that brought him into that condition, I listen. If it is someone providing evidence of harms of over-medication and vaccines, I won't.

Why not post it?

Source: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-investigation-young-healthy-kids-deaths-post-covid-vaccination/ = = = The FDA is conducting an “intense investigation” into the deaths of young, healthy children following COVID-19 vaccination, the agency’s commissioner confirmed in a CNN interview last week. Watch the interview here > https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/04/health/video/the-lead-marty-makary-health-rfk-jr-hhs-congress-hearing-jake-tapper or read the article highlighting what dr Marty Makary - head of the FDA - revealed about that investigation. > https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-investigation-young-healthy-kids-deaths-post-covid-vaccination/

Contrary to the previously released information by the mainstream-media that dr Demetre DASKALAKIS resigned in protest of the dismissal of CDC head Susan Monarez, it now turns out that he was actually FIRED by Kennedy for malpractice. Source: https://worldtribune.com/kennedy-fired-cdc-vaccines-chief-for-malpractice-fda-to-release-data-on-vax-deaths/ = = = Here is what Kennedy told Fox News: “I gave the order, I’m running this agency, how come nothing’s happening?” “And then we tried to get the vaccine safety data language – the data that supposedly the CDC tries to use to make good decisions on whether vaccines are hurting people and whether there are side effects. For 7 months, he stonewalled us so that we could not get that data!” Kennedy added: “He’s also the individual that runs the VAERS system, which is the surveillance system for injuries that captures, according to CDC’s own study, fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries. This is malpractice.” “These people are the people who ordered our children to walk around in masks. They’re the people who closed our schools. They’re the people who imposed social distancing with no science, shut down our businesses, and they need to go,” Kennedy said. “We need new blood, and we need new people who are committed to public health and integrity and gold standard science.” = = =

True, but what most parents don't know is that pediatricians in the US are receiving huge bonuses when they meet the insurance quota of the child-'patients' they jab. As a result, healthy children hardly at risk for any of the diseases that those shots claim to prevent, are often routinely jabbed. Removing such unethical financial incentives for pediatricians would ensure that the financial motive would not bias their advice.

Always the messenger, never the content...

You are almost right. Pediatricians generally do not receive bonuses or any incentives from pharmaceutical companies. But they receive from the insurance companies. > None of the posts in this thread contest that FACT. And contrary to the claims by some on this thread that it are 'only small amounts', they receive large amounts of money when meeting the child-vaccination quota set by those insurers. RFK jr is 100% correct calling such practices perverse.