43 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

That would be the same UN that employed workers for their agency UNRWA that took direct participation in the 7th October slaughtering of innocent Israeli civilians; workers that included 7 teachers, 2 school administrators and a social worker …. is that the UN that you trust ?

 

 

No, not that UN.

The UN you are describing is the one that Israel made up lies about, and didn't even provide a single piece of evidence to back up those lies. Even America hasn't seen any evidence.

Let's get back to reality. If you want to believe that the elected representatives of the world are all liars and antisemitic, then there is no one left for you to trust,. Your pretty lonely out there!

11 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

No problem.

Deport them!

UK does not need vermin such as this.

We have our own British culture and traditions.

Muslims that refuse to acknowledge the facts are not wanted here. Go away!

Yes, The UK has a culture and tradition of innocent until proven guilty.

There is no evidence that any rapes occurred. So British Muslims are most definitely following British laws, and I support them.

How can you deport your own citizens? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard...

I'll trust the UN thank you very much, not an Islamophobic organization hiding behind 'think tank' status. The UN was quite clear that there is no evidence, other than circumstantial, that any rape occurred.

This is why independent journalists must be allowed in to Gaza. No one with a brain is going to trust information from the occupying power, the one who is doing all of the killing. It's like asking a kid to grade their own homework assignments. You'll get a good grade for sure, but that doesn't mean it's an honest grade.

How much use is one submarine anyway?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Thai constitution states that a party can be disbanded if it is seen to be under undue influence of an outsider?

Thaksin is still a convict, he is on parole. After these comments today, and the ones he was making yesterday about his daughter being fit to take over at the end of this parliament - when she has never held any political office, or ever held down a serious job - PTP is running the risk of being disbanded by the CC.

2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Nevertheless, deducting employees’ salaries for lateness still violates Thai labour laws under Section 76 of the Labour Protection Act. Employers who fail to comply with the law may face imprisonment for up to six months, a fine of up to 100,000 baht, or both.

Why was the most important information squeezed in at the end of article?

I also had a Thai female boss who used to do this. It never affected me, but several employees would lose a fair chunk of their salaries at the end. Why on earth the employees were applauding the fact that she was breaking the law is beyond me.

John Oliver went through this last night!

The paper failed to mention that the PM was looking at a mirror, and what he saw was his reflection.....

How much of the 'bad foreigner' blame will the PM accept for this?

He's the moron who thought it would be a good idea to give long term tourist visas & visa free access to Chinese & Russian mafiosi.   

9 hours ago, Social Media said:

Top Hamas operative killed in hospital raid, army says

The IDF says troops killed a senior Hamas operative during this morning’s raid on Gaza City’s Shifa Hospital.

Faiq Mabhouh, who served as the head of operations in Hamas’s internal security force, was armed and hiding inside the Shifa complex, “from which he was working to advance terror activity,” the IDF says. Mabhouh was killed amid an exchange of fire during an attempt to arrest him, the IDF says.

This one is confusing. Several western media outlets (AP, CNN, CH 4, BBC) have all noted that this man was one of the most senior police officers:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-03-18-2024-eefc526aec97821fe5f1e845801a6640

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The Israeli military said troops killed 20 people it identified as Hamas militants, and one of its own soldiers was killed, though the identification of the dead as militants could not be confirmed. Among those killed was a senior commander in Gaza’s Hamas-led police forces who Israel said was hiding in the hospital. Gaza officials said the commander was coordinating protection of aid convoys.

Yes, the police are controlled by Hamas, as are all government services, but this doesn't mean he was a valid target. Many of these publications have pointed out that Israel seems to be targeting the police forces, while the UN and UNRWA have put out statements supporting this opinion. Just because someone is on the governments payroll, does not mean they are part of the military wing.

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

There is  certainly no denying the evidence of the center located under UNRWA HQ in Gaza or that certain UN members were involved in the attack and brought bodies back to Gaza along with holding hostages in Gaza.

What evidence? Israel has not shared, or given any evidence to any of its global partners.

This is why so many of those countries who originally withheld funding are now backing the agency again.

How people can advocate taking food and medical aid away from the Palestinians blows my mind. It is monstrous.

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes I read the OP and it is not making those claims, thanks for the confirmation. Suggesting something is not making a factual claim.

I suggest you clean your spectacles, they might be a bit dusty:

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Read my post again, then read the OP. Yes claims are that they are distorting the the disproportionate representation of women and children among reported casualties.

 

Where are they making claims in the OP that they have inflated the overall figures?

 

Yes you said "written by an Israeli. Lies"

I then point you directly to where it says the figures have been inflated in the OP's post:

13 hours ago, Social Media said:

One key aspect of concern is the consistency and linearity of the reported casualty figures over time. Analysis of the daily death tolls released by the Gaza Health Ministry reveals a remarkable level of regularity, with minimal variation observed from day to day. This unusual pattern has raised suspicions among observers, who argue that such consistency is unlikely in the context of a dynamic and volatile conflict zone. Instead, it is suggested that these figures may have been artificially inflated or manipulated to create a false impression of the scale of casualties.

You are wrong. Admit it, and move on.

53 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Read my post again, then read the OP. Yes claims are that they are distorting the the disproportionate representation of women and children among reported casualties.

 

Where are they making claims in the OP that they have inflated the overall figures?

 

Yes you said "written by an Israeli. Lies"

I suggest you read what was written in the OP's post, before erroneously defending the indefensible.

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One key aspect of concern is the consistency and linearity of the reported casualty figures over time. Analysis of the daily death tolls released by the Gaza Health Ministry reveals a remarkable level of regularity, with minimal variation observed from day to day. This unusual pattern has raised suspicions among observers, who argue that such consistency is unlikely in the context of a dynamic and volatile conflict zone. Instead, it is suggested that these figures may have been artificially inflated or manipulated to create a false impression of the scale of casualties.

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The Palestinians sided with the Nazis in WW2 , they were on the other side of the war to the U.K

Had the Palastians decided to be on the U.K;s side of the war and fought against the Nazis , the UK may have viewed their cause more favourable .

   The Palestians were on the Nazis side in WW2

No, they didn't. Arabs fought alongside the British against the Nazis. In return, they were promised their lands. The Grand Mufti wanted Arabs to fight with the Nazis, but they wouldn't do it. They fought against the Nazis.

This is a very well documented fact.
https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/when-palestinian-arabs-and-jews-fought-the-nazis-side-by-side-593052

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Jerusalem Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini’s infamous ties with Nazi Germany and fascist Italy are well-documented, as are as his efforts to block Jewish refugees from reaching British Mandatory Palestine during the Second World War.

 

Less known, however, is the story of the thousands of Palestinian Arabs who disregarded the mufti’s pro-Axis policies and instead opted to fight against Adolf Hitler’s henchmen.

 

 

17 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I agree with your general point, but the UK did offer up the land. It was under their control then. 

 

Land that they had previously said was for the administration of the local people. They also made deals with the Arabs that the land would be returned to them for their self determination. They lied, and gave it to the Zionist movement instead.

24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No you have not, you need to provide evidence of these false claims, you cant because they are lies:

 

"It also notes that there is actual evidence of Israelis raping and sexually abusing Palestinians. They were able to speak to real people who claimed Israeli soldiers abused, beat, starved, humiliated and raped them. This is first hand evidence, and detailed in the report.... but no mention of Arabs getting raped in this thread. Why? Bias. "

Yes, I did. Go back and look.

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The Lancet is saying there is no evidence of inflated figures, the OP is also not claiming there are inflated figures. 

 

The OP does look at the anomalies in the data, such as discrepancies between consecutive days and pays particular attention to the disproportionate representation of women and children among reported casualties raises concerns about the accuracy of the gender breakdown.

 

However noted, you call it lies because its written by a Jew, outed yet again.

"How the Gaza ministry of health fakes casualty numbers" is the title, and it keeps referring to the figures being inflated and inaccurate. The OP is trying to say that the numbers are lies, and we shouldn't believe them. An independent, globally respected Journal that has been around for almost 200 years disagrees, and says they are accurate.

Note that I said it was written by an Israeli. I did not say it was written by a Jew, I said it was written by an Israeli. A biased source. The source is also very questionable, it is not internationally renowned, it is not peer reviewed and seems to have no specific purpose.

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

More lies?

 

I found it, and I replied to it earlier. Look above.

An obscure journal, written by an Israeli. Lies.

Why not take an actual medical journal 'The Lancet": The Lancet is a weekly peer-reviewed general medical journal and one of the oldest of its kind. It is also one of the world's highest-impact academic journals. It was founded in England in 1823

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext

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No evidence of inflated mortality reporting from the Gaza Ministry of Health

Mortality reporting is a crucial indicator of the severity of a conflict setting, but it can also be inflated or under-reported for political purposes. Amidst the ongoing conflict in Gaza, some political parties have indicated scepticism about the reporting of fatalities by the Gaza Ministry of Health (MoH).

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 The Gaza MoH has historically reported accurate mortality data, with discrepancies between MoH reporting and independent United Nations analyses ranging from 1·5% to 3·8% in previous conflicts. A comparison between the Gaza MoH and Israeli Foreign Ministry mortality figures for the 2014 war yielded an 8·0% discrepancy.

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 Public scepticism of the current reports by the Gaza MoH might undermine the efforts to reduce civilian harm and provide life-saving assistance.

Using publicly available information,

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 we compared the Gaza MoH's mortality reports with a separate source of mortality reporting and found no evidence of inflated rates. We conducted a temporal analysis of cumulative-reported mortality within Gaza for deaths of Gazans as reported by the MoH and reported staff member deaths from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), from Oct 7 to Nov 10, 2023. These two data sources used independent methods of mortality verification, enabling assessment of reporting consistency.

10 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Hamas is a government. They are also freedom fighters. They are not terrorists. 

 

Freedom fighters don’t brutally rape burn, behead , massacre, send missiles to citizens and kidnap babies/ civilians. A freedom fighter fights the enemy combatants. Hamas and many of the Palestinians that joined them on 7th Oct are not freedom fighters ; these are monsters. They don’t even care about the land or accept a two state solution. They just want Jewish blood and to wipe Israel off the map.

 

Now stop the lies and provide the evidence via credible link to the below false claims of yours, it is NOT detailed in the report as you claim. Spreading misinformation on this is a vile and disgusting act not least of which being against forum rules. The visit to to the occupied West Bank is detailed on page 20 paragraph IV. You have a lot of explaining to do to cover the misinformation below.

 

 

 

 

I do not lie. Here it is.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147217

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Allegations implicating Israeli security forces, settlers

The team also visited Ramallah in the Occupied Palestinian Territory to hear the views and concerns of officials and civil society representatives since 7 October which allegedly implicate Israeli security forces and settlers.

Ms. Patten heard concerns raised over cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of Palestinians in detention, including sexual violence in the form of invasive searches, threats of rape and prolonged forced nudity.

The information gathered will complement that already gathered by other UN officials on allegations of conflict-related sexual violence inside Gaza, for potential inclusion in the Secretary-General’s annual report on the issue.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says

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UN experts say they have seen “credible allegations” that Palestinian women and girls have been subjected to sexual assaults, including rape, while in Israeli detention, and are calling for a full investigation.

The panel of experts said there was evidence of a least two cases of rape, alongside other cases of sexual humiliation and threats of rape. Reem Alsalem, the UN special rapporteur on violence against women and girls, said the true extent of sexual violence could be significantly higher.

 

“We might not know for a long time what the actual number of victims are,” said Alsalem, who was appointed special rapporteur by the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) in 2021.

 

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

Still waiting for you to get back to me on your first post in this topic where you were spreading lies and misinformation. You need to address that in full first.

 

 

 

Huh? I can't see your post. Was it deleted?