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15 minutes ago, swissie said:

Our grandfathers came mostly as "unskilled labor" to the US. No problem, they then worked for Henry Ford and Carnegie.

In reverse: What awaits the "latinos" coming to the US today? Mostly unskilled laborors. Basically no need for them in todays US economy. Young latinos ending up in the many "underground" economies. Or mowing the grass for "rich people".

For young Latinos, there is no American dream left, especially as "the Americans" themselves see their American dream fade away into the sunset.

It depends. 

There are different kinds of Latino migrants 

Farm workers and meat processing workers sure but there are also successful entrepreneurs and well educated ones.

1 hour ago, Baht Simpson said:

All good then. 

 

 

Yes but it's extremely annoying that here on the gay forum vile homophobes always come on to heckle and suggest we need to justify our existence to them.

Imagine if bigots like that always did that on a racial minority forum.

That wouldn't be OK.

Why is it OK to happen on the gay forum?

19 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

I'm sorry but I'm not going to live my life trying to justify what I am to other people. I'm not going to try to prove that animals do the same as me. I'm not going to try to prove there's a "gay gene" so that I can show that it's a natural phenomenon. I'm not going to try to prove whether or not  God loves gays when it says something derogatory in the Bible. I couldn't care less about arguing the toss about my sexuality with those that oppose it. As you say, it never ends, so why engage with bigots on these issues. You just go round in circles.

 

Let's stick to the real issues of representation, acceptance, diversity, visibility and most of all, equality, especially this month. 

 

As I said previously I agree that the counter-argument to the 'not natural' crowd is welcome but my personal opinion is that validating anyone's sexual orientation isn't necessary and we shouldn't entertain anyone that wants to. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not suggesting that gay people do anything of that kind.

58 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

I think it's entirely irrelevant. If it was subsequently found that animals didn't actually have same-sex attractions would that invalidate homosexuality in humans? Of course not. That's my point. We shouldn't have to justify what we are with animal behaviour. It justs arms the anti crowd.

You don't get it.

Anything and everything arms the bigots.

They don't need any excuse.

Their bigotry is irrational.

Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism
and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to
dehumanize a large group of people, to deny
their humanity, their dignity and personhood.

Coretta Scott King

6 minutes ago, Polar Bear said:

Thanks for the info. I'll watch out for it. The topic is nothing new. Biological Exuberance by Bagemihl was published 25 years ago. It was a core university text in animal behaviour courses, and it cited hundreds of studies going back decades. Back then, the main theory was that there were higher levels of homosexuality in species with high-need offspring, with homosexual adults 'nannying' or adopting the offspring of others to increase overall species survival. But then Black Swans also have a surrogacy system, and male-male pairs are by far the most successful at raising offspring, so that might have changed over time. I'm interested to see what the current theories are. 

True its nothing new.

25 minutes ago, Screaming said:

I think this hostility you refer to is part of the effects of the "Trump Derangement Syndrome." The syndrome can be subtle, often masking itself as righteous indignation toward those who oppose homosexuality.  

This the gay forum. Suggest you read the guidelines.

46 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

I find it interesting that some people blame the "right wing" for all their hostility. This hostility goes against the very idea of accepting the homosexual lifestyle. I would like to think we have the freedom to accept homosexuality but also not accept it. This is true freedom whether it be the "right wing" or the left wing.

Not a lifestyle. 

Of course people are free to be ignorant bigots.

48 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Well that looks absolutely horrific! 

I for one wont be watching.

 

Think i'll watch my chubby brown dvd instead!

 

bob.

How is it horrific?

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Good luck I have no kids.

Imagine you have kids, and they constantly get bombarded with this woke nonsense. 

There are XX and XY chromosomes. That's it. It's not really that difficult. 

How is a documentary about sexual diversity in nature woke nonsense?

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Did this need it's own thread, as could have simply been mentioned in the 'movie/tv' thread ?

 

A thread for every new movie ... maybe mods could move to appropriate thread.

I thought it was worthy because the ignorant right wing backlash is major news.

If you don’t feel welcome to exit the topic.

5 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Or be 'proud' of, we need a sex tourist pride month!

Every month in Pattaya. 

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Thanks for explaining that, as anything called 'Queer Planet", I'm not going to look at, same if called 'Straight Planet'.  Hate labels.  I assumed (oops) it was about humans.

 

I don't anyone denies there are 3 sexes/genders ... hetero-homo-bisexual.  OK, maybe the religious extremist who don't get out much.

 

Have no real interest in watching a doc, about either or, no matter what species the subject matter is about.

 Nobody is forcing you to watch it mate.

More about the doc.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-pop-culture/peacock-queer-planet-documentary-animal-sexuality-rcna155467

Peacock’s ‘Queer Planet’ features lion ‘bromances,’ pansexual monkeys and more

The documentary, narrated by actor Andrew Rannells, examines some of the more than 1,500 species that have been shown to engage in queer behaviors.

22 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Feeling threatened?

 Feeling threatening?

Just in time for pride month.

https://www.them.us/story/queer-planet-gay-animal-documentary-conservative-backlash

In this week’s installment of “right-wingers losing their minds over nothing,” conservatives are big mad about the trailer for the forthcoming documentary Queer Planet.

2 hours ago, kinyara said:

 

I only got my bill at the weekend, tried the QR code on receipt which didn't work, checked the updates to this thread, so went to City Hall Monday and dealt with it.

Did you need to show ID such as passport?

1 hour ago, Thailand J said:

I was at Pattaya City Hall to pay condo tax, 1256B for a 140sm condo.

QR code payment doesn't work this year. The front desk said next year it'll work, we'll see.

 

So they f-ed up.

Why send out QR codes that don't work?

Like ever heard of TESTING stuff first?

1 hour ago, transam said:

Did you forget the USSR signed a non-aggression treaty with Germany in 1939........🤣

Yes probably not taught in Russian schools, but ultimately the USSR was indeed incredibly important in defeating the Nazis. But the Soviets were no angels to put it mildly. Look into the Stalinist gulag system for example. Politics makes strange bedfellows. 

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

I think the opposite, Jews I have met throughout my life have all been great people, some are very religious, Orthodox, others had all the patter but didn't as far as I know go in for the whole Synagogue thing, others that squared the circle would back in the old country come round for a bacon sandwich on a weekend. different strokes for different folks.

Zionists on the other hand, those who wanted to go to Israel to live could really bring a downer to a great party of mixed people, with there views on people that didn't see the world their way.

Just my experience.

You don't know the definition of Zionism. 

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Trolling again?

Pot kettle black. 

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

From the experts:

 

A Zionist is someone who advocates for an independent Jewish state where Jews can live in safety. To many religious Jews, Israel is 'the promised land'. But many non-religious Jews, too, value the fact that there is a country where Jews can live in freedom and safety. Nowadays, the word Zionist is often used as a swearword. As a negative label. Many Palestinians and supporters of the Palestinian cause no longer distinguish between the words 'Jew', 'Israeli' and 'Zionist'. That is not correct. Most Jews do not live in Israel. Not every inhabitant of Israel is Jewish; there are also many non-Jews living in Israel. And not all Jewish Israelis are 'settlers' who want to conquer more and more Palestinian land. The vast majority of Jews believe that the State of Israel should continue to exist. But many Jews, both living in Israel and elsewhere, are in favour of a Palestinian state alongside Israel as a possible solution to the conflict. To cut a long story short: although many Jews identify with Zionism, there are still many different points of view. That is reason enough not to mix up the words 'Jew', 'Israelis' and 'Zionists'. 

https://www.annefrank.org/en/topics/antisemitism/are-all-jews-zionists/

 

 

There are also very good reasons to not demonize Zionists or Zionism. That is being done more than usual lately. It's not really surprising. The very word Jew which technically is neutral is used by many as a slur. 

Another interesting list.

This time the U.S. focus is on gay friendly AND affordable.

There is a good bit of overlap to the places on another thread -- "D list" cities in the U.S. (cheaper places in general).

3 hours ago, Foxx said:

Apparently "Palestinian Imams: Palestinians 'Will Not Accept A Single Homosexual On The Land Of Palestine'; 'Homosexuals Should Be Thrown Head First From The Rooftop Of The Tallest Building'"

 

https://www.memri.org/reports/queersforpalestine-–-palestinian-imams-palestinians-will-not-accept-single-homosexual-land

 

Also apparently

"Your cows, your sheep, and even your donkeys, have never stooped to the level of perversion that America designs for you."

Good to know.

Head first? Detail minded imams.

I guess those ignorant barbarians haven't heard about this: