Stiddle Mump

Most of the 'facts' that I've seen posted on this thread, supporting viruses and vaxxes, are nonsense. Many of the 'facts' are in fact myths. Perpetuated by well paid virologists, compromised white-coats, Big Pharma and elites (making even more money). A well person is not a Big Pharma customer.

The plumber did more for public health than most white-coats. Garbage disposal helped too. There are reasons why we get sick. I'm reluctant to use the word disease as it's meaning has been hijacked and leads one to thinl of contagion. I don't mind answering in-depth why we get sick/ill, and what we can do to return our bodies back to good health. Perhaps another thread would be more suitable. Beyond the scope of this one. I'm also up for debate on why the heart does not pomp blood around the body. And try this for size; why viruses actually keep the body in good order. More on these two later perhaps.

I've looked. The two science groups i belong to have looked. Lots of independents have looked. There are NO papers anywhere that show the isolation of ANY virus The virologists have adopted the Enders approach. And chucked Koch Postulates and science into the dustbin.

Good response Sir. Could I finish the last sentence for you differently? ''Without the above vaccines'' - humans would be much healthier.

There is no such thing as a SARS cov-2 virus. It if simply made up nonsense. There is also not a flu virus. Or a common cold virus. Actually the flu is good to have. The body is getting rid of all the undesirables that have built up, and stored away, for a year. Where are you getting this nonsense from? You prefer to get your info from people that don't agree with me?! That's OK. I can go with that. But if you want thought-provoking posts; keep watching.

Great post there Sir. I'll not respond to every point. But just a couple if I may. The polio virus you speak of was never found. A white-coat (can't recall his name) ground up the backbone of a youngster that had allegedly died from a polio-like sickness. This soup was then injected into the brains of a couple of monkeys. One survived; the other didn't. To say this is a scientific study is nonsense. Read the original transcript. The Enders experiments of the 50s set the tone for viological experimentation. No isolation. No control. I m fully aware of how PCR works. It is not a diagnostic tool; and nor are those before or since that proport to show whether a virus is present or not. To find anything, there first has to be something that it can be matched to. It was used to drive the 'pandemic' fear along. A lot of testing = a lot of cases. No testing = no cases. There is not a disease called rabies as far as I'm aware. Not to say dogs (especially) don't get sick. And not to say that you would want stuff breaking through the skin if you do get a bite. A wipe down with alcohol would be fine for me. But if the rip/tear was deep it might need to be stitched. Would do that myself, if I could. I'll not have any unnecessary injections thanks Richard. Or trips to any hospitals for trivial things.

Ah yes! The Spanish flu. Interesting topic that. Deserves a thread of its own.

None for me?! Because you don't agree with me. I don't accept the general explanation of why we get sick. When we do, I don't agree with the white-coats on what we should do about it. I do not agree with what the white-coats say we should do to avoid getting sick. I'm against the WHO. They seem more interested in helping companies get richer than actually making the world less sick. And perhaps more importantly; avoiding sickness in the first place. So Sir. What is there that I agree with but you don't? Never mind the one-liners; let's debate.

Dr Vernon Coleman is a very well respected doctor. He has stepped on many toes with his words. They tried to shut him down many times. In saying that; I don't agree with much of what he has to say. But on the 'covid is the rebranded flu' I agree. There is no test that can detect something that does not exist. don't know where you got that nonsense from Sir. A so-called 'virus' is indistinguishable from general cell and tissue debris.

Bridge over the River Kwai?

Where did you get that info from? The CDC web site? Polio is cause by toxins, and a toxic environment. Nothing to do with a virus. By the way, the polio 'virus' was 'discovered' somet 120 years ago by some white-coat injecting filth into monkey's brains. Just ridiculous then. Even more so now. But they are still at it. Not transmissible. Smallpox is a general term that was given to skin eruptions (and other symptoms) for centuries. It was/is caused by environmental conditions. No virus involved what-so-ever. Not transmissible. All these vaccines are pushed forward as a way for rich people to become even richer. Hopefully Kennedy will sort out the nonsense. Although I will not ne holding my breath. But there is some hope. Nature has the answers we seek.

You are hooting up the wrong tree Sir.

Good you came through your sickness OK Sir. Sorry about your mate. You might have had symptoms that we were all told were covid. But covid has never been shown to be anything other than in the imagination of the elite WHO and in computer programmes. I think - without checking - that Tedros announced its name 'covid-19' on 11th Feb 2020. Although it was common knowledge that one was coming (the following year) in November 2019. Covid is not even real. How can long covid be anything but nonsense? Dr Vernon Coleman has always insisted that covid was/is the rebranded flu. I'll go with that.

Thanks for responding Sir. ''Your comments imply you don't believe in vaccines - nature alone would not have protected you from Polio to Smallpox, Measles. Rubella (German Measles). Mumps, Diphtheria, Pertussis (Whooping Cough), Tetanus, Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib). Yellow Fever etc etc etc..'' If I could comment on the first three of your examples. Polio is not caused by a virus. The illness is not transmissible. Pox is the body desperately trying to rid itself of toxins. The symptoms of smallpox, chicken pox, measles etc, are virtually indistinguishable from one another. But none of the 'poxes' are caused by a virus. And nor are they transmissible. ''There is so much scientific evidence proving the efficacy and necessity of vaccines, if you are refusing to accept medically and scientifically proven facts then there is no more point in entering the debate with you than there is with a flat earther or a moon landing denier.'' There is no scientific evidence to support that claim Richard. As for being medically and scientifically proven facts; well I can't find any. I, and others, have been searching for some considerable time. In my case for over 40 years. You are stating what you think is true. Ask yourself; ''Is it true what people with vested interests say?'' And would you believe them? Only one conclusion. Must ask yourself; ''What are vaccines for?'' Answering that, will go part-way to finding your truth. Did man walk on the moon? Another topic for that Richard.

From the nose down he looks like Dr Andrew Kaufman.

OK! I hear you Richard. What about debate instead?

Monumental hogwash.

You re out of step with nature Richard. Kick off your shoes and go walk in the wood.

Wherever thee may be, let the wind blow free.

So you obviously believe there are viruses out there just waiting to attack. Personally I don't.

I didn't know some of the points. I must take issue with #14. ''Were you aware of the recent study that showed that the C19 injection does not protect you from “long covid” symptoms?'' Long covid is made up nonsense. There is no such thing. A big-pharma fantasy to cover up vax damage.

Not pathogens. Certainly no entities that can be passed onto another human. When you breathe in bad air - smoke for instance - the body's response is to cough. If there are still particles still inside, they are coated and stored away. At certain times of the year** the body rids itself of these coated undesirables. This is often call the flu or a cold. Some of it is expressed as snot or mucus. ** My research suggests that it is a change in atmospheric conditions that causes the expulsion of toxicity. A bit like the leaves shedding their leaves in autumn.

They didn't isolate any virus. All these claims about finding a viris simply do not stand up to rigorous scientific scrutiny. According to their methodology the sample never left the petri dish. This sort of unscientific nonsense, has to be proved to be so. Now that Kennedy is the US health overseer there may be hope.

I think you hve to look towards the future for the big answers. As AI gradually kicks in throughout the western world people - especially white-collar workers - will find they have no jobs. There will be blue-collar workers needed, but these can be gotten from other countries; on the cheap. Now a person without work, and therefore on a some sort of national benefit scheme is not a great contributor to the nations tax pot. And just like the OAPs and unemployables, will find that the governments would rather they were gone. Far too much drain on the economy they might think. So, they have to be gotten rid of. Of course, not just corralled into a raft and dumped way out into the sea. Or put into chambers that are then filled with a substance that kills them. No!! Of course not!! That would be barbarism in the extreme. But1 What about being blown up by a perceived enemy's bomb? Messy that. Far better to coax people into taking something that they think will do them good. Get them to crave for this thing even. Something that is, however. going to kill them. Maybe on the spot, or at the very least; prematurely. And what might that thing be? Is it already happening?

I think you mean left-footed socks. Out of the four jabs you had; what one is keeping covid at bay? Here's another question. It is dark, and you need to go to the sock drawer. How many socks do you need to be sure of a matching pair? Same question about jabs and gloves. It's not as simple as you might think.