Miloki

What. No way.

This is one of my favorite responses. Has anyone here just woken up from a 5 year coma and never heard this line before? Should I ask my Doc for another flu shot if I don't feel sick? What about tetanus? Hep B? In a normal world, we would question being knocked out for a day or two after a shot. Especially one you have had before. But no, here we have experts telling you this is actually healthy for you. It's an absolutely ridiculous assertion. But they are right about one thing, you didn't get a placebo.

Such an odd statement from a 'scientist', this acknowledgement that very little is 'proven' If there is a global pandemic, with a CFR of basically 1%, but as with many respiratory viruses, the elderly and immune compromised are hit the hardest. Do you rollout a radically different vax tech that behaves in a radically different manner, that has never been implemented successfully at any scale, to 3/4 of the planet. 3-5 Billion people basically. No, you absolutely do not do this, ever! Maybe a 5-10% CFR we can talk about radical solutions like this. It was completely reckless and irresponsible on any timeframe of human existence.

ArBAIXLH_y9h5AgV.mp4 I'm looking forward to scientific inquiry. Should have happened a long time ago. Definitely should have happened before jabbing 3/4 of the planet, especially those at low risk and those who already had COVID. I actually hope the vax proved effective and it was worth the damage and death it did to some individuals. Thats the best case for this experiment and I hope it so.

Good advice finally. By the way, you never answered the question. How many is it now?

You are pushing medical misinformation and using scare tactics to support an opinion that contradicts basically every public health agency in the western world.

pkG6fxqAn5wnS_aJ.mp4 Eye of the beholder I guess. Political theater as always.

Oils obviously play a big role in most diets. Seems like an important topic to get to the bottom of, yet obviously difficult to study. Consensus I'm following for now as far as order of preference 1) Unprocessed vegetable oils (Olive, Avocado, virgin coconut) 2) Natural fats (lard, tallow, ghee, maybe butter) 3) Processed vegetable or seed oil Seems pretty easy to avoid getting to #3 if you wish when doing your own meal preparation. Except, that almost every single salad dressing contains #3. Even mayonnaise which a lot of people use for low carb diets. I'd like to avoid #3 more when eating out too. So fine by me if tallow is back in style. People seem to think it's up to us (the skeptics) to prove that changes to our diet are bad. No, it's up to you to prove beyond any doubt that the changes are good. That takes decades and good science uncorrupted by industry. You're not even close at this point.

Seem it's time you should re-assess your world view, not me. The rest of us are moving on and following where the science leads, not 'The Science' as presented to you by the media.

Interesting conversation on this topic with ChatGPT. I asked, "What countries recommend covid vaccinations for children under 18?" Now I know this is not completely honest so I asked specifically about Germany, the Netherlands, France, and Sweden. Hmmm. Sounds pretty similar to the Trump administration's policies with RFK Jr as head of HHS, no? And obviously quite dissimilar to what @TallGuyJohninBKK has been advocating with this thread, no? I then asked what other countries in the EU have similar policies to Germany and Sweden. Hmmm. None of these countries recommend it for children either unless they have specific qualifying conditions. So maybe the UK, Canada, and Australia are the exception and maybe the UK represent 'many countries' in the Europe Union? Now we all know that LLM's can be misleading and sometimes tell you what you want to hear. Although I am sure the same can be said about factcheck.org for some people, Salon magazine for others. But it seems quite clear to me that RFK Jr is actually following the science and the USA is catching up to medical consensus here, unlike paid lobbying groups like the American Academy of Pediatrics who don't want to lose their gravy train. Any medication intervention has risks including vaccinations. You don't do one if you don't have to. This is common sense that seems to have been lost by many during COVID. Feel free to post other responses from LLM's if you think these are misleading or you find one of these countries has a recommendation contrary to what I have presented here.

Up to you if you don't want to follow CDC guidelines but I'd want to know what percentage of those 56 kids received a vax and how many comorbidities they had before subjecting my kid to a potentially unnecessary shot.

https://www.cdc.gov/covid/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html Not currently recommended for those under 18 but follow CDC advice and discuss it with your doctor.

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If the world stopped to protect my generation I'd show a little more appreciation.

We can also skip the studies on subclinical myocarditis too I guess. No heart damage kids, you're good!!

https://www.cdc.gov/acip/downloads/slides-2025-04-15-16/05-Panagiotakopoulos-COVID-508.pdf

Oh, now we're changing the time periods and the booster shots?

Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare.1234567911121718192021 Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle. Most patients with myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination respond well to medicine and rest and feel better quickly. Pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. Most patients with pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination respond well to medicine and rest and feel better quickly. The evidence suggests that, although rare, these events are linked to certain types of COVID-19 vaccinations. For example, myocarditis has been most frequently seen in adolescent and young adult males within 7 days of their second mRNA COVID-19 vaccine dose. (Cases have also been observed in females, in other age groups, and after other vaccine doses.) Healthcare providers should review additional recommendations and clinical guidance on myocarditis considerations. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/vaccines/covid-19.html Come on guys, I've done this before. Also notice no studies linked after 2022.

Tell that to the 20% of patients that were not considered to have either fully recovered or 'probably' fully recovered. Then also ask what 'probably' means. Might also check why these long term 'one year' studies are taking so long...they aren't. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/vaccines/covid-19.html Investigating long-term effects of myocarditis Surveys of patients diagnosed with myocarditis who developed symptoms at least three months prior to answering the survey showed most patients (80%) were considered by their cardiologist or other healthcare provider to have either fully or probably fully recovered.22 Results of longer-term surveys (e.g., one year after a patient was diagnosed with myocarditis) are pending and should be available soon.

Thanks for the 2021 study. You are very out of date. What is rare is getting it from COVID. And anyone telling you it is mild or short term has zero understanding of what heart damage is.

Hope you are following the recommendations on your mRNA boosters. How many is that now? 7-8-9-10? How many do you have?

You all messed up the hearts of a lot of young men that didn't need the vaccine. That's a proven fact. And if you can't or won't acknowledge that fact, this is a silly conversation to continue.

Yeah, or maybe for some reason it does not turn 'off' in some people. Or maybe the manufacturing process has varied drastically from the original EUA, or maybe there are some questionable elements in some versions, or maybe the govt did a pretty crappy job tracking potential side effects. Dude, we have all heard this nonsense. The facts are this was an experiment, and a poorly conducted one at that. I hope it's not as bad as some fear. But pretending no one was killed or injured, or had long term side effects is more naive than the person you are trying to make fun of.

Agree to disagree. I have done the research, looked at the actual trials and trial data for many of the vaccines. He is right, it's not good enough. And it's definitely not good enough when combined and repeated. We can not vax every ailment and expect everything to be okay. That's what we have tried to do. Maybe future data will prove otherwise. But it is a lie to say it is proven now.

Possibly, but this comment is from someone not in that situation who thinks you are being an ass and disrespectful. Whatever country you are from, you should probably go home. Okay, now done w/ this thread, you got me!!