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14 hours ago, billd766 said:

Please explain to us fickas, the time when the US was in the EU.

 

quote "British folks never know the decision makers in neighbouring countries even when the US was in the EU. 

I am sadly surprised from this rather childish post,

it is obvious that this is a simple typing error.

I am less surprised from who find your post hilarious.

17 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

As far as I am aware Le Pen is only standing in France at the last count there is another 26 countries in the EU minus France

In Belgium there is only 1 party ( on the Flemish side ) which is anti E.U., they also want that Belgium start to exist, and the King must step down. 

In The Netherlands there is the party of Mr. Wilders, there are elections this year, the results will be very interesting to see what way the people want to go.

Mr. Rutte, is prime minister since 2010. 

In Italy 45% wants to leave the E.U. in 5 years time, if Brexit is a success.

In Germany, there is the "Alternative for Germany" which have actually 7 seats in the European Parliament.

19 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Scotlands already been given a referendum and voted to stay,how many eu countries have been given an election if they want to stay or leave?

I think none.

The latest poll about it in Belgium was done in September 2019 and 82% wanted to stay.

Of course this is only a poll, a referendum would give the right results. 

I am in favor of a referendum, but with clear details/explanations what concretely "leave" and "remain" would represent for the Belgians.

This to avoid that everyone has his own speculation about what it will represent. 

6 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

 

And what did that last Scottish referendum tell us?

Many countries in the E.U.were happy because the U.K. was a great financial support for the E.U..

They didn't want to leave at all the E.U..

Now without this financial support, things may not go that smooth, and maybe they will thinking about leaving the E. U.. 

Thus, due to a major change, a country or more, may want to change its mind. 

I think personally that's a fair reason. 

24 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   I did understand you , but you are wrong .

I have previously stated why you are wrong, you didn't understand last time , so, no point in saying it again

This isn't about World War III, but simply about a country leaving a group.

If you really believe that

"food shortages , fields going unharvested , starvation , no drugs coming in from the E.U and the health system will collapse , millions of non British people being forced to leave the UK "

wasn't an overstatement, and could/can really happen, and that you think other people believe that too, and not immediately understand  it is an exaggeration,

you are for sure very naïve.

16 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Did you honestly expect that Boris would kill himself in a ditch ?

If anyone took it seriously as a suicide intention statement ,They would have helped him and taken him to the Doctors and try to convince him not to commit suicide.

No one took it seriously at all .............apart from you 

Sorry, It is obvious I expressed myself wrongly.

I was referring to the fact that

"food shortages , fields going unharvested , starvation , no drugs coming in from the E.U and the health system will collapse , millions of non British people being forced to leave the UK "

was to be considered on the same level than 

" dead in a ditch "

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  It was quite clearly a figure of speech , it definitely wasn't a promise or a statement of intent .

*I would rather live on the moon , rather than living in France* is another figure of speech , but in reality, I would go and live in France .

Well for the pleasure of arguing, I would say that there are plausible situations,

and totally impossible ones, accepted as such by everyone.

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   The "dead in a ditch" was a figure of speech , it wasnt meant literally and it wasnt a prediction .

The UK's economy crashing was indeed a prediction meant to be taken literally, it wasnt a figure of speech .

 

 No doubt some will share your opinion, and some not, and there is no way this can be cleared with data.

Thus to each in particular to believe what suits him best.

26 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Are the UK completely out the E.U now ?

No more discussions or negotiations or ratifications or votes or anything ?

Is this the day that the Pound collapses , 800 000 are thrown out of work , food shortages , fields going unharvested , starvation , no drugs coming in from the E.U and the health system will collapse , millions of non British people being forced to leave the UK .

   Is today the day ?

I think that's enormously exaggerated, not really to be stick to the letter.

I didn't believe Mr. Johnson  : " I'd rather be dead in a ditch than ask for Brexit delay" was to be taken stick to the letter,  and indeed it wasn't.

Problems, annoyances will occur, no doubt, they will occur in Europe too.

However there is on both side a desire to carry on.

And circumstances will of course be different, but the E.U and the U.K. will still have to deal together.

42 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

What a load of rubbish. 

What do you know of Yoga, meditation and self inquiry? Any direct experience with them? Or are you just spouting your incredibly misinformed opinion about something you know only from second hand knowledge (at best)? It doesn't take much to see that you don't, and you resent anyone who does. 
 

Why would you care if this "knowledge" is recognized by anyone other than yourself? Would it make it more real for you? The only way to make it real is to find out by yourself, but you're not willing to do so. Instead you prefer to dismiss everything out of hand, criticizing others from the safe corner of your belief system, because of course, that's the easiest (and extremely lazy) way of not questioning your point of view. Sitting on the high horse of ignorance is the worst kind of ignorance. 
 

Right back at you. If my posts annoy you so much that you feel compelled to call me out every time, why don't you do yourself and all of us a favour and put me on your ignore list? Are you a masochist? ???? 

This is a forum, you are entitled to call my post rubbish, myself, 

ignorant, or whatever,  it doesn't affect me, as it is an only a personal opinion.

You seems to have a problem with critics, maybe in your entourage you are used that everyone swallow what you say.

Anyway please carry on, if I find the need to react, I will do.

But calm down, after all we only express both our opinions.

And the right to an opinion, doesn't make an opinion right.

I know that.

35 minutes ago, vogie said:

These are the odds of the next country to leave the EU. 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/next-country-to-leave-eu

 

 

Thanks, but this is something totally unknown for me, and I must confess not understand.

What means 3/1 for Italy for instance?

And what does it concretely represent?

Many or just a few believe Italy will leave soon ?

41 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

The UK, we shall see, good or bad, better to be out of it.

regards Worgeordie

A personal opinion is always interesting to read.

34 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

I feel sorry for you man.
As usual, you've got nothing to contribute to the topic other than a personal attack.
Sad man.

 

Another personal perception, interesting to know, as every opinion/perception is,

but also to be catalogued  immediately by myself as insignificant. 

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

It isn't the Brexiteers who are whining.

 

Try the Remainers who have been whining for over 4 ears and are still at it, even though the UK is no longer a part of the EU.

 

Taking the good with the bad is part of what is called "Democracy". Not accepting it and perpetually whining about it is called bitterness and spitefulness, it is time to move on to different pastures.

It's human to have difficulties to accept the winning of a group, one consider will be the cause of a disaster for one's country.

That this believe is right or wrong is irrelevant , as at the moment it is in either way provable.

However facing a fait accompli it, is indeed time to carry on.

4 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Oh ! yes you were,the EU does not want the UK to succeed outside

of the EU , as it might give others the idea to leave, with the monies

that the UK paid into it,the EU will have to tighten their belts now.

 

The EU morphed into something that we did not originally sign up for,

as a common market, free to trade with each other ,great idea, then it

changed were the unelected took over,and wanted to control everything.

 

regards Worgeordie

I think the E. U. somehow succeeded,

which country wants to take the risk its people will be that divided ( 52 /48 )

which country wants to go threw 4+ years of negotiations, with a rather unclear/shady outcome.

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   This year :

Victory over Covid , stay at home .

Wise.

It is sure Covid will be the ideal excuse/justification for many things, everywhere.

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Great isn't it, bit like VE day......

VE day in London.

Curious for today.

6 hours ago, kingdong said:

You remainers have been wrong so far,we,ll survive,i,d be more worried about the eu imploding,going down the bookies tomorrow see what odds i can get.

I don't know if you are joking or not, but would be interesting to know what the odds are.

Just now, mauGR1 said:

I didn't call you names,  did i  ?

No, not at all,

you pretend I had no arguments.

We differ in opinion in this, hence I state that you have your own perception of the situation. Which is different from mine

Just now, mauGR1 said:

Jeez, I thought I was quite logical and unassuming, but when you have no arguments you cry haughtiness.

 

That's your perception of the situation.

30 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

30 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Exactly just in your mind.

So it's not only the believers who think that they got it right.

Once you realize that there's something called "consciousness ", and you're able to discern many, if not infinite states of consciousness,  and being able to see clearly, how vast, if not infinite,  the number of visible stars is, how many are the chances that "consciousness " is something which belongs, in the whole universe, to humans only ?

...0 chances in my opinion.

As we are able to determine the purity of any material element, it's obvious that "pure consciousness " must exist, with or without humans.

But that's just my opinion, no doubt about that.

 

And here the eternal mantra :

 

"we know, you don't, we have access to the " knowledge", you don't, we are particular, you aren't, the ways to reach it are there, if you don't succeed, keep trying, we succeed, we know better, one day you will understand too "

 

Ok, this is a forum,

keep going with that, I will keep going with declaring it is haughtiness.

And here the eternal mantra :

"we know, you don't, we have access to the " knowledge", you don't, we are particular, you aren't, the ways to reach it are there, if you don't succeed, keep trying, we succeed, we know better, one day you will understand too "

Ok, this is a forum,

keep going with that, I will keep going with declaring it is haughtiness.

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1 minute ago, mauGR1 said:

Absolutely !

In fact, perhaps it would take too long to explain why, but the huge variety of opinions itself, it's a clear evidence of the existence of an intelligent design at the source of the entire existence... just in my opinion of course. 

In my thinking, the fact that there are so many opinions, is a clear proof that there is no absolute evidence/consensus of the existence of an " intelligent design " or whatever other name one wish to use.

Of course for the believer, each in particular, will pretend that the elements he present, are clear evidences; and sure in his mind they are.

3 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

What about you start a thread about opinions ?

I will let you know my opinion,  in my opinion of course ????

Glad to read that you consider the matter " opinions " as so important it should deserve an own thread.