16 minutes ago, Burgo1979 said:

That's what i was told when i got my card and script. I was also told that the script can be used at any shop if needed, not just the chain of shops i got it from. If people aren't buying 30g at once, how will they monitor sales, and at what point does the shop(s) retain the original script for their records?.

 

On the flip side, once i got my script i bought 4 grams and my script wasnt taken.....

It's easier for them to force us to buy the monthly amount all at once. Purchases could be added to a database so we don't have to buy that much all at once. Oh well, just like the recent tax on income, they have not told us everything we need to know. This has not been thought through or planned out, which is what I've come to expect.  Grey areas create opportunities for the legal system to abuse people who might be trying their best to obey the rules.

17 minutes ago, Burgo1979 said:

Correct, already got my card and script, and fully aware you don't have to SMOKE 30 grams lol, but the law seems to say that 30g must be purchased at once. My point was people will need to show a copy of their scripts alongside their card if stopped at checkpoints, as the original script is kept by the shop you purchase from.

"the law seems to say that 30g must be purchased at once" 😲  I haven't read that. What a silly position.

What if I like a certain strain that one shop offers and a different strain from a different shop?

4 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

I understand your point of view and why you purchased the card. Here is a different opinion. A quote from Ben the lawyer in Bangkok.

 When cannabis was legalized the doctrine of codification kicked back in to protect Thai liberties thereby requiring a LAW BE PASSED to allow for curtailment of said liberty and/or regulation thereof. Politicians approximately 18 months ago acknowledged that fact and said they were going to pass a law through Parliament. They never did and now this Public Health Ministry want us all to believe they can dictate the terms of cannabis usage through arbitrary and capricious "announcements". I expect there will be serious challenges to all of this in the Administrative courts at the very least. --BWH

I certainly hope it's challenged in court.  It certainly doesn't look like it has gone through a sufficient number of legal channels. Where are the studies? Where is the unbiased research?  All we seem to have is "many have complained about the smell" and some irresponsible parent got their toddler extremely stoned. How about some science?  How about looking at other countries that have legalized it and see how they overcame hurdles?  How about showing the public how much tax income has been generated? Also, if there are 18,000 shops but only a small percentage are licensed, how about going after them and thus generating more tax. I see no serious downside to having cannabis legal, taxed, and regulated.  

[begin rant] At every level this is causing problems. Thousands of Thais have benefited from the surge in popularity when it was decriminalized. Now, for zero solid evidence that it's causing harm to society or the health of the participants, it's back to being scary. The government betrayed farmers, entrepreneurs, workers from all sort of associated businesses, etc.   

Plus, every time I heard about it affecting the 'image of Thailand' I can't help but think about how much damage alcohol ACTUALLY does to society, health, and safety.  Alas, they don't seem consistent in their concern over safety, health, or society when alcohol is involved. [end rant]

9 minutes ago, Pib said:

Well, it's SSA employees which tell their computers what to do in accordance with the yearly policy for 7162s....and It does cost to mail things....and the US govt agencies must pay postage costs just like everyone else although they probably get a small metered mail discount.   And the SSA uses print vendors for much of its bulk printing & mailing processes such as the 7162 mailing process...that is, it's a contracted-out process and contracts cost money to award/maintain/use.   But let's get back to just the mailing costs.

 

Currently to send a small envelope internationally (i.e., like US to Thailand) the USPS charges $1.70.  Let's say the SSA (and it's print vendor) might get a metered mail price of $1.50 per international 7172 envelope it mails out.  $1.50 times 760,000 comes to $1.14M in postage costs only...and this is not including the print/mailing vendor basic contract costs.

 

DOGE implemented polices where pretty much all current contracts had to be reviewed and many contracts were cancelled under their ongoing review.   At one time all new and annual contracts of $50K or more required DOGE review/approval....a process that delays things.  I have no doubt SSA mailing/printings costs and contract are caught in this DOGE process.

 

Now none of us will probably every find out the specific reason(s) for this year's delayed 7162 mailing, but my gut feeling is the reasons are:  new SSA leadership rocking the boat,  SSA employee turmoil/firings, SSA review of its processes, and review & new approval requirements (i.e., DOGE's involvement) for govt contracts such as mailing contracts.

 

No, it's not as simple as it being just an automated SSA computer process.

 

The government could join the modern era and send the form electronically. For the few who don't have email, they can request a physical form. 

Returning the form could/should be online too. 

There has to be a way to make this more efficient. Sending a document and only requiring a signature (which could be forged) is no safer than sending it electronically... unless I'm missing something. 

Then again, we're talking about a country that apparently still uses floppy discs to control missiles. 🤷‍♂️

34 minutes ago, Kenny Boy said:

Another weed using misfit.

Brain destroyed by overuse, probably

Ah yes, the old “all weed users are brain-damaged misfits” trope—textbook sweeping generalization. That’s like saying all wine drinkers are closet alcoholics with liver failure.

Cannabis users range from doctors to artists to CEOs. Meanwhile, alcohol—society’s favorite legal poison—has a far stronger link to actual brain damage, violence, and public embarrassment.

If you’re gonna throw shade, at least bring data. Otherwise, you're just emotionally venting with zero intellectual traction.

24 minutes ago, Migz said:

The following link provides an insight about our major problems with SSA Form 7162, a good read for those who are interested:

 

SSA Forms 7162, 7161 Submission Issues | Shared Grok Conversation

 

 

There is no link to follow here.

6 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

Cannabis Is Not Cash and Announcements Are Not Laws?

If it’s a law, rule, or regulation published in the Royal Gazette, that means yes, that’s the green light that it’s now official and enforceable. 

2 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

I think if you are a medical user, and have your paperwork in order, you can probably safely travel with up to 30 grams within Thailand. 
 

I use both ChatGPT and Grok. I think they both have their pluses and minuses. They both make mistakes. So using one to cross check the other is never a bad idea. I just asked ChatGPT to check that Grok information for accuracy and it said the following:

 

ChatGPT: The information you posted is generally accurate and well summarized but I will point out a few areas that could be misleading or need clarification based on the actual regulations in Thailand as of mid 2025. Main Corrections and Clarifications below. 

 

Prescription Source for Medical Use:

 

According to the Thai Ministry of Public Health, medical cannabis prescriptions must come from licensed medical practitioners. While traditional Thai medicine practitioners are included, there is no official allowance for pharmacists or dentists to issue cannabis prescriptions. That part of the summary may be incorrect.

 

0.2% THC Rule Clarification:

 

The rule about ≤0.2% THC applies only to extracts, not to dried cannabis flower. Cannabis flower is considered legal for medical use regardless of THC percentage, but any extract (oil, tincture, edible) above 0.2% THC is classified as a narcotic under the Narcotics Code.

 

Possession Quantities and Intent to Distribute:

 

The statement that possession over 30 grams or 30 milliliters could trigger intent-to-distribute charges is based on older guidelines that applied before legalization in 2022. The current regulations as of 2025 under the Public Health Act do not officially set a specific weight limit like 30 grams in the legal text. Law enforcement may still use discretion, but this 30-gram figure is not codified in the current laws.

 

Cultivation Rules:

 

Cultivation is actually prohibited for personal use under the June 2025 regulations unless for medical purposes and must be registered with the FDA. The previous allowance for home-growing without restriction was revoked. Saying “no limit on plants” is outdated. New regulations emphasize stricter control, with unregistered cultivation risking legal action.

 

Public Health Act Citation:

 

The correct citation is the Public Health Act B.E. 2535 (1992) but the more relevant legal instrument as of 2025 is the Ministerial Regulation on Cannabis Control 2025 which supplements the Public Health Act. The Narcotics Code (amended) also plays a role in criminal penalties.

Great information! Thanks for taking the time to put all of your posts together. 🙏

The 0.2% THC rule seemed problematic. For example, if I go to a clinic and get a product that is labled as being within the limit and it turns out that it's higher, who is in trouble? Rhetorical question, of course. 
 

2 minutes ago, KireB said:

I just ordered 4 ounces of very good Indica, which will last me for 5/6 months. I only smoke one at night before bedtime. 

 

A lot of us are the same. I don't want to go to the clinic every month.  My medical condition doesn't change every month. I've got medical records to show that, but this is not about being reasonable. This is their chest-pounding control fantasy.  

32 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Below is an updated summary I just gathered from Grok AI after it collected information from various online sources.

 

My suggestion would be to obtain a medical certificate by the end of this month if you plan to continue possessing and using it in the future.

 

So far, enforcement appears to have focused mainly on sellers and vendors rather than individual users, but that could change.

 

I would recommend continuing to monitor the news for any reports of enforcement actions against individual users to get a better sense of the potential legal risks for personal possession and use going forward.
 

---

 

From Grok:

 

Thailand Cannabis Possession Regulations (Updated July 15, 2025)

 

As of July 15, 2025, Thailand’s cannabis regulations, effective from June 26, 2025, ban recreational use and impose strict controls on possession. Below are the updated possession restrictions based on the latest information:

 

Possession Restrictions for Cannabis in Thailand (2025)

 

1.  Recreational Use:

•  Recreational cannabis use is illegal. Possession of cannabis flower or products for non-medical purposes violates the Public Health Act 2535 BE (1992), with penalties including fines up to 25,000 Baht (~US$700) or up to 3 months imprisonment.

•  No specific possession limit is defined for recreational use, as any amount without a medical prescription is illegal. Enforcement is inconsistent due to a 30–60 day grace period (extending into late July or August 2025), allowing time for businesses and individuals to adapt.

 

2.  Medical Use:

•  Possession for medical purposes is legal with a prescription from a doctor, traditional Thai or Chinese medicine practitioner, pharmacist, or dentist. Prescriptions are limited to a 30-day supply.

•  The amount must align with the prescribed treatment and be sourced from licensed dispensaries meeting Good Agricultural and Collection Practices (GACP) standards. No explicit quantity limit beyond the 30-day supply is specified.

 

3.  THC Content and Intent to Distribute:

•  Cannabis extracts and products (e.g., edibles, oils) must contain ≤0.2% THC to be legally possessed without special permission. Possession of extracts exceeding 0.2% THC is a Category 5 narcotic offense, carrying harsher penalties under the Narcotics Code.

•  Possession of more than 30 grams or 30 milliliters of cannabis or its extracts may be treated as intent to distribute under existing narcotics laws, leading to fines up to 100,000 Baht or imprisonment up to 7 years, unless the individual has a prescription or a permit (e.g., for research or export). This threshold is a guideline, not a new rule from 2024 or 2025.

 

4.  Specific Restrictions:

•  Minors (under 20), pregnant women, and breastfeeding women are prohibited from possessing or using cannabis, except with medical authorization.

•  Public consumption (e.g., smoking in schools, temples, or malls) is illegal, with fines up to 25,000 Baht (~US$700) or 3 months imprisonment. Possession is allowed only in private areas.

•  Tourists cannot import or export cannabis or its seeds, regardless of quantity.

 

5.  Cultivation:

•  Individuals can cultivate cannabis but must register with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) via the “Plookganja” app or website. No limit on the number of plants exists, but registration is recommended in case future laws require licensing.

Enforcement Context:

 

•  A 30–60 day enforcement delay (announced June 28, 2025) applies primarily to businesses (e.g., licensing for dispensaries), but the recreational ban and prescription requirement are legally in effect. Enforcement is inconsistent, with authorities focusing on unlicensed vendors and illegal products (e.g., edibles exceeding 0.2% THC).

•  A crackdown on illegal cannabis edibles, spurred by a toddler’s hospitalization in Chiang Mai after consuming cannabis gummies, has led to nationwide raids, seizures, and potential vendor arrests. (Sources: The Nation Thailand, July 6, 2025; FTN News, July 11, 2025; Thai Examiner, July 7, 2025)

 

Summary:

 

•  Recreational possession: Illegal; any amount without a prescription risks fines up to 25,000 Baht or 3 months imprisonment.

•  Medical possession: Limited to a 30-day supply with a prescription; products must have ≤0.2% THC.

•  Intent to distribute: Possession of >30 grams or 30 milliliters without a prescription or permit may be treated as intent to distribute under the Narcotics Code.

•  Special restrictions: No possession by minors, pregnant, or breastfeeding women (unless medically authorized); no public use; no import/export.

•  Cultivation: No plant limit but requires FDA registration.

 

Enforcement Actions (June 26–July 15, 2025):

 

Recent enforcement has focused on closing unlicensed cannabis shops (over 70 in Bangkok), seizing illegal products like high-THC edibles, and enforcing prescription requirements. The toddler incident in Chiang Mai prompted nartionwide raids on non-compliant products. No specific arrests of individuals for recreational use or possession without a prescription have been reported, with authorities prioritizing businesses during the 30–60 day grace period (until late July or August 2025).

Well, almost all of this sucks. I hope it's tweaked to be a bit more reasonable. For example, "Possession is allowed only in private areas." Does that mean I can't take my medicine with me when I go on vacation within Thailand?  Is it up to a cop to decide?

Do they not realize that not every month has 30 days? 😒

Again with the one example of an irresponsible parent or party-goer. FFS, how about going after all of the people who ride motorbikes with toddlers not wearing helmets... oh wait, this isn't really about safety, it's about control and appeasing a noisy minority.  Silly me for thinking the doctor actually cared. 🤦

On the potential bright side, Grok has a track record that isn't exactly stellar. I use Chat GPT and get misinformation all the time. Let's see how this plays out.

Much thanks for going to the effort of putting this all together. 🙏

5 minutes ago, short-Timer said:

The public nuisance rule has been in place since the day cannabis was decriminalized. That part is not new. There has always been a 25,000 Baht fine for smoking in public or non-designated areas if someone files a complaint. So far, I have not seen any reports of anyone actually being fined. That could obviously change, but I suspect in major nightlife areas where plenty of people smoke openly, it likely will not be heavily enforced. Still, I would tread carefully just to be safe.

Yeah, I knew that was always the 'rule'. I should have said the smoke complaints factored into the new status on cannabis in general.

Now, where do I go to complain about cigarettes and black smoke trucks? 🤔🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, short-Timer said:

Correct. Most likely if you aren't smoking in public you won't have problems. But there is always the risk of a disgruntled neighbor filing a report with the police if you smoke at home and the smoke bothers them. 

A big part of the change in the rules is pot smoke being a public nuisance.  I don't want to test the boundaries.  A foreigner smoking weed and annoying a Thai might trigger a quicker response from the cops.  This is not slamming Thailand, it would be the same in many countries. It ain't worth the risk.

2 minutes ago, Ebumbu said:

 

What is/was the maximum bud you can keep at any time? I have had to massively downsize. It broke my heart. But, #1 rule is, don't get arrested. 

I inquired about how much I could have at home and didn't get a direct answer.   Maybe this new system has intentional grey areas. 

I'm guessing a lot of us have pre-new-rule medicine at home. I don't want to assume anything until this is addressed (if ever) by the government. They should help those of us who want to be legal to stay legal, but alas. 🤷‍♂️

28 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

Not the parents

Not necessarily not the parents. 🤔 They don't get a break from parenting just because they're at a party. Now, having said that, this is based on them knowing that someone put pot gummies out in public at the party. If they didn't know, then the person who put it out there without telling the participants is definitely the bad person. 

3 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

 Just contacted a big store in Bangkok who said no card of any sort was needed. No mention of I.D or medical card.

On June 27th, Public Health Minister Somsak Thepsuthin ordered that cannabis cannot be sold unless buyers have a medical prescription. PorThor 33 prescription form is necessary, but there is a 30-90 day grace period in effect according to several articles I've read.  I recommend reading more about this than a weed shop's response. 

I got my medical cannabis ID card yesterday. It was quick, cheap, and easy. Whatever the actual law is and whether it's going to be enforced or not, I'm at least capable of providing evidence that I respect Thailand's rule. If I don't need this card, then I just wasted a bit of time and money. If I do need it, I've got it... no stress situation.

24 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Its "reefer madness" but thai style ,  The authorities are in a awkward position, On one hand they feel the need to be seen to be doing something  in order to appease the minority but  vocal reefer madness brigade, but due to the huge amount of cash involved they need to be careful not to shoot themselves (or their superiors) in the foot,   and thus their heart is not really in it , or so it seems   

As you correctly say , The mythical polls and any recent negative stories in the  press are all part of the propaganda

I'll smile and carry on too, not sure about following the rules though

Yeah, you nailed it... there are forces ($$) that are pro and con for sure. Small but very vocal minorities are becoming a serious problem in other countries too. 

3 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

Is there going to be a full list of places to get these cards ? Or do I travel hundreds of miles to search everywhere to find one ?

I found no list.  That would make too much sense. I think the government wants to make it a challenge finding info... like with the tax stuff they came up with recently. 🤷‍♂️

Anyway, where are you?  You might try Googling or Chat GPT. I found the place I went to by asking Chat GPT for a list of registered cannabis shops in Phuket Town.  It came back with two spots.  The Greenroom was one and as I had been there before (it's 15 minutes from my home), I then asked,  "Is Greenroom (weed shop) in Phuket Town registered with the Ministry of Public Health for Smart Cards and medical certificates."  It said yes. Then I went to Google Maps to get their telephone number to make sure they had a 'on site' authorized medical person.  I've read that some refer you to a medical clinic not at their shop, thus making everything more tedious and time-consuming. The shop I use had a traditional Thai medicine person who is always there... making it extremely easy.

Good luck. Let us know if you need any help. 

44 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

I found out that they don't have a doctor in Bangkok that can issue the documents. Only in Phuket and their shop in Pattaya on Second Road, close to Central Festival.

Sorry to hear that it's not going to be convenient for you.  I'll bet that there will end up being a lot more traditional Thai practitioners in these shops in the future and not many actual doctors. I think it's a numbers game.  

I didn't hear anything about a toddler eating edibles. This is the parents' fault. Weed shops don't allow toddlers inside. Besides, single incidents do not a trend make.  How many toddlers have been hurt or worse in motorbike crashes when they were in one of those wicker child seats, thus making them an airbag for the driver? The wicker seats are still everywhere. If there is a safety mindset, it should be consistent. 

2 minutes ago, Burgo1979 said:

I have a feeling that once its all sorted, online sales will be allowed from the shops that have onsite Doctors and give prescriptions and cards.

That makes too much sense and sounds potentially too efficient. 🤔  Let's just hope it goes that way. I'd be appreciative if the monthly prescription could be done online.

3 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

Not going to worry about it right now since everything is still very much in the air. My hunch is once you know who is tossed out everything will be as before. What if you live in Nakhon Nowhere and have to travel all the day just to buy some?

I agree, but for me it's the "up in the air" part that triggered me to act.  At worst, I wasted some time and a bit of money... not something I don't do on the regular already. 😊

Just now, Burgo1979 said:

Ok, i understand it was delivered to your house, but a lot of medical weed users will carry it with them wherever they go i case they need it quickly, that's what i was getting at.

Yep, a legit example for me is that I'm going on a 4-day mountain biking trip later this week. I'll be carrying. I asked the doctor about this and she said just show your card to the cops.  I asked her about the amount I could have on me and she didn't really say. I assume a gram/day would be acceptable as that jives with the monthly limit.  4 grams in 4 days is plenty for me.

5 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

from what i read the script is ONLY valid for 30 days , so u'd need a new one everytime u want order 

Yeah, that's silly and very inefficient. It's easy for me to hop on my bike and go to this clinic. It's 15 minute away.  That's still something I'd rather not have to do once per month.  It's not like my medical condition is on a monthly schedule. 🤷‍♂️