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1 minute ago, John Drake said:

 

Just be assured you can use your Thai address for ID.ME.  In fact, it accepted my Thai P.O. Box address.  As I said, I use login.gov for my management applications at grants.gov. Those grant applications allow you to fill in 000 for US Zip codes, which then takes you to a separate entry for foreign addresses. This is what troubled me when I tried to use it for Social Security this morning. There was no way around the US address and telephone requirement. 

What sort of primary and secondary documents did you use for verification?  I've got my pink ID card with my photo and address in Thai. I've got a Tabian Baan that I could use, but it only has my name, no photo. I've got drivers license. I can get a bank statement with my name and address.  My goal is to give them enough to where I don't need to wait for a video chat.

For my US-side docs I've, of course, got my passport and Va drivers license. 

16 minutes ago, jimmyjam12 said:

It was login.gov.   When I was transitioning it said they verified information on your credit bureau so I used my old Arizona address.   Apparently by doing that they updated my profile from my Thailand address to the Arizona address.  
 

I am hoping Manila will be able to correct the address before it causes problems.  I never receive the 7162 form anyway so that will not be impacted.  Lol

Thanks for the info. It's strange that your login system would change information on the site... that's scary!

I was thinking about doing Login.gov AND ID.me so I would have both. Everything I read about Login.gov says US address and US phone. I was going to use my brother's address which is my US mailing address and perhaps his mobile for the code, though I am concerned that it might look stretchy as that phone is not in my name. This is stressful. I'm trying to the right thing the right way and they're not making it easy. 😞 

You have direct deposit, so you should get form 7162 each year. It's odd that you don't. I do. I haven't gotten one this year yet. I recall it usually coming in June.

2 hours ago, jimmyjam12 said:

I was able to transition from user name to I’d.gov.   However when I just checked my SSA.Gov account my address was updated to reflect a US mailing address not Thailand. 
 

I am now worried about my 7162 letter and my direct deposit if they will be affected.  I sent an email to Manila so I am hopeful they will correct the address .

 

Hi Jimmy, did you mean ID.me or Login.gov  If it was ID.me, did you have to do an online video with a representative?   Yeah, I do direct deposit through BKK Bank, so I'd be interested in how it turns out for you if I run into the same issue.  Good luck! 🤞

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

All I can say is the ID.me at least works, although it's a lengthy process. I have a login.gov account because it's required to login to grants.gov. So I've actually been using it for a longer period of time. But it was a complete deadend when I tried to use it for social security.

Great insight! 🙏  At least I know about it now.

I only login to My Soc Sec every few months. I did it last night because my BKK Bank SS deposit was late. The site said it was paid on time... so BKK was the delay. It arrived a few minute ago... whew. 

I'll start getting my stuff together for ID.me   

9 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

I got the ID.me account about a year ago. It requires a submission and then you arrange an appointment online. Once in the appointment, you wait in line again until someone comes on live and in person. They double check your info and ask for live submission of photo and social security card and one other form of acceptable ID. Took about a week to get the online appointment.

Thanks for the detailed info, John. That's exactly what I needed... much appreciated as this is sort of what I was expecting.   

It sounds like I'm in for some time sitting around at some point in the near future. 🫥

1 hour ago, BKKKevin said:

I have this T Mobile US number that works/roams in Thailand (And over 200 other countries)

It cost $3 a month to maintain 

I get SMS here in Thailand no problem 

 

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Great, thanks!  I've heard that you can't get a phone here in Thailand that will accept US SIM cards. It's that true to your knowledge?

7 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Just tried the login at My Social Security and saw the transition announcement. I have both ID.me and a Login.gov account.

 

FWIW I was able to use the ID.me and login directly to my account. But when I tried to use the Login.gov account I have, I was sent to a page asking for personal information. It required a US address and a US telephone number. There were no options for foreign addresses or telephones. ID.me allows for foreign addresses. 

What was the process like creating a ID.me account? Did you use your Thai address and Thai phone number?  Did you have to do the video chat with an ID.me representative?  

How long did it take to get verified?

38 minutes ago, eddyod said:

I ditched my ATT phone account 2 years ago and moved the number to Google voice to receive SMS messages and it has been working really well. And there is only the initial cost of 20 dollars (from what I remember)

I read that VOIP numbers aren't allowed. I have a Skype US VOIP and it works for a lot of US services, but it didn't work for one bank account that I had. They did some sort of security revamping and it stopped offering them sending VOIP SMS codes.  Luckily, I was going on vacation in the US shortly thereafter. I walked into the bank and closed the account... moved money to Schwalb, but checked with them first about me living in Thailand. They had zero issues and I can get codes on my Thai number. 

This current issue looks tedious at best. 

8 hours ago, thesetat said:

When i opened mine with SSA i did not have a US number. I used ID ME. They will give you an option to get some codes to use for log in. At first i thought it would be a pain and difficult but after several times using it I feel it is convenient. Just make sure you store codes in a hidden folder if keeping them in your PC. You can copy and paste them easily enough.

Thanks for your reply. 🙏 I saw that there were two options and one involved a video interview with a representative. The other was self-service. I'll get my documents in order, photograph them and give it a go.

The user name and pw was already a two-factor authentication as I had to get a code sent to my email. This is not a security improvement from my perspective... it's merely an additional hoop to jump through.  🤷‍♂️
 

Social Security Username

This applies if you created an account with Social Security prior to September 18, 2021, and sign in with a username versus your email address. Starting September 2024, these accounts will be retired, so we encourage you to consider setting up an account with Login.gov or ID.me.

When I logged in to My Social Security this evening I was told that I need to eventually transition from the user name and password to either ID.me or Login.gov   Has anyone made this transition WITHOUT a US mobile phone number?  If so, what's the process?

It appears that Google Authenticator is an option with Login.gov   Geez, I wish they'd just leave things that work alone. 🤦‍♂️

3 hours ago, Thumbs said:

How is this possible without at least one immigration officer involved ?

Exactly and the immigration officer's name will be documented. GO AFTER THEM! Without corrupt gov officials, none if this would be possible.

Right, and Bush "uncovered a plot" that led to a totally unnecessary war. Solid evidence is apparently not needed, especially where Israel is involved. They're the chosen.  Genocide Joe certainly will side with whatever they desire.

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

yes, zilch, just the all the other things they threw at Trump. unfortunately the reps as not as aggressive, nasty and spiteful as the dems, and they don't have 90% of the media behind them.

Almost all media coverage is about the GOP, so I don't why on earth you'd falsely claim that 90% (a number that obviously came from someone's backside) is dem backed. There are dedicated redneck "news" sites and some of them got in legal trouble for outright lying. I guess that's all besides the point if it doesn't fit someone's personal agenda. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

10 minutes ago, Mike Lister said:

There is a special tax allowance for people over age 65 which often puts them outside of Thai tax.

My accountant said 60. I hope she's right as my wife is 60 and it'd be nice if she was exempt too. 🤞🤞

65 does sound more realistic though to be honest. 

9 hours ago, new2here said:

 Here is my GUESS..

 

For many with Work Permits, one of the various requirements for renewal is that your show your PD 90/91 to Labour before they’ll authorize a renewal (assuming you worked in Thailand in the previous calendar year)

 

So… what I could see is that Immigration adds the mandate that you show a PD 90/91 to them as a part of the overall renewal of stay process… by doing so, they would then be able to see if a foreigner has fulfilled their tax reporting/payment obligations.

I just spoke to my accountant based on your post (BTW, thanks for this) and she said that because I'm over 60 years old, my meager Thai salary isn't taxable. I don't know if it's the meager salary part or the age part, but she says I'm exempt.

I'm 68 and taking the minimum allowed to help with the marketing for the company I started and ran for the last 25 years. 

I pay Social Security and company taxes, but apparently, the personal tax side is not an age thanks to my age.  Finally, being old has a benefit. 👴

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The banks and the AMLO.

Good guess, but it's still a guess.