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Electricity is his biggest cost you say.
Easy to deal with that - I can;t see the sense in using sprinklers to irrigate a Papaya plantation. About 80% of the distributed water goes into the ground to "feed" other plants (e.g. weeds and grasses) or soaks away with no benenfit to the Papaya plants.
So long as he has laid the plants out in some sort of pattern (i.e. lines in one direction or another), he should be able to irrigate using drippers -saving most of his water (as with drippers it's only delivered to where it's needed - next to each plant). This in turn will slash his biggest expense (electricity) as he will not need the to use the energy he's currently using to deliver water at the pressures required to drive sprinklers (drippers will run efficiently from a tank no more than 1 or 2 meters above the dripper#ground level)
Maizefarmer
You raise a valid point there - to be honest I wasn't thinking about this from a Ph perspective - just from a odour neutralisation point of view.If you are concerned about PH then repaeated plain water rinsing will do the job (in theory).
Household bleach (while having a decent anti-bacterial effect as well) is a great odour neutraliser and should do the job in one go (i.e. fill up with 2 or 3% percent solution, stir well and leave for a day or so).
Tim
Hi everybody, im new on here and have been following all the irigation posts, about gravity feed drip systems ect, On my wifes farm her brother irrigates Papaya with a sprinkler system, last months electricty bill was 2000bht for a bore hole pump and 2 in-line 2inch pumps from a farm across the road, the water from here costs 6000bht a year, {500 a month] plus some fertilizer and some spray againt disease, another 1000bht, he sold a load and got 6000bht, he extended the water system about another 800 bht, plus he travels an hour each way to his home town everyday, add all this up and he made about 1500bht for a month, It seems to me the biggest cost is electricty, Getting to the point, weve just had 6 rai cleared of Thai potatoes, and are thinking of banana plants for a quick turnround in money ect, but this sprinkler system has got me thinking that water will go to waste and promote other things to grow, in 1 of the dutch? barns on the farm there must be 400 meters of 1in pipe with mini sprinklers attached, {obviously a pressure fed system} perhaps if on a gravity fed tank they would only drip?? .
Coming to tanks, ive read a lot on other blogs here and it seems a bit complicated and expensive to me, now what do you think of this idea? i went past a transport yard the other day, and there was an old truck tank laying in the grass, looks like it came of a fuel tanker, about 30ft long, probally holds about 28000 ltrs, the inlet and all the different outlet pipes are still attached, im thinking if i got this cleaned out and checked for leaks, a coat of paint ect, place it at highest point on the farm, {thats easy, its on a hill above where we want to do bananas} fill it from the bore hole pump and hey presto!!!
Will send missus brother to ask price of tank,cleaning and transport to farm, and concrete support for it.
Has anbody got any ideas or misgivings about this idea?
Thanks, Alex.
MaizeFarmer, thankyou for you reply, the papaya are in nice uniform rows and would lend themselves to drip feed easily,I understand papaya has a small root formation and can be overwatered easily causing root rot,the soil is red clay and seems very water retentive,but as soon as leaves droop a bit in the sun, he puts sprinkler on the area and keeps going till the ground cant take anymore, its running away in big red rivers!!! and of course the weeds and crap between the trees are getting more prolific, although we have all the pipework for a drip system, to him, there is nothing like "rain" and a few green leaves on a babana leaf and praying that the pumps will keep working,,,
When we decide on our own water be it borehole for the banana plantation, it will be surely dripfed to get them started, soon will be rainy season so they will look after themselves, Had our 1 rai salad garden covered today with that black plastic/nylon stuff to stop the big rains harming it, it was a suprise to me that after 2 weeks garlic is over 6in high, Thankyou for your input and advice, Alex.
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BOREHOLES
Lots of us have water boreholes and there are some of us who would like a water borehole.
But you get boreholes and you get boreholes i.e. some will work good & proper for a long time, and some will be nothing but trouble trouble trouble….because the borehole industry in Thailand, like all industries, has its "cowboys".
Some things you can do and some things to look out for when selecting the right man to do the job.
1) Jump in the pickup and drive around a bit – check out who else around you has a borehole and have a chat with them. Find out:
- how deep the hole is
- how much water it produces p/day
- is it year round (or if it changes, by how much does it change).
- what pump do they use (submersible or plunger type – down to around 10m you can get away with a plunger type, much further you're best off with a submersible, they are more expensive)
- how long has it been in use
- lastly, who bored it and what did it cost.
Check out as many as you can around your village/area – that will give you a realistic idea of what you can expect to get from a borehole on your land. You may even want to get a sample of the water and test it yourself for nitrates/nitrites/ calcium ect ect (done easily & cheaply). If its just for the house and garden 3 cubic meters volume a day is fine – which you can pump out with a couple of truck batteries if you have no ac mains power. Yup, so boreholes in rural areas do make a lot of sense.
Generally you have 2 sizes in Thailand: for domestic use you don't need more than a 6" diameter borehole, but for agriculture use and small businesses you want 12" diameter borehole (that's not to say 6" won't do – it can, and often does – just that you'd be better off volume wise if it was 12" diameter).
Check too if you need permission – some areas you'll have to go off and have a chat with the local Phu Yai (village head or District Head at the local district office, and in other areas no-one cares) – but check. The only time you'll get a "no" answer is if you're in an area that is surrounded by industry and the ground water is known to be not safe, or if there is a ground water quota in your area which is been exceeded (there some areas around Bangkok like that, where some industries lift large quantities of H2O from the ground, but out in the "sticks" I have heard of no restricted areas for quota based reasons).
Now's the time to have a chat with the guys who dig the holes – and to take note what you have been told by others, compare it carefully with what the borehole digger tells you – because they can tell some tall stories – for every 10 boreholes dug, at least half of them won't be serviceable after 5 – 10 years and its usually because they weren't dug properly in the first place, not because there isn't any water.
So what are the problems:
1) Slurry Slurry Slurry – other than fuel it's the boreholers biggest expense, but it's the most important component in boring. It will determine how long the borehole lasts and it will determine how many times you have to lift your pump to take stones out the impeller or indeed, replace your pump. The slurry is a mud that is injected down the hole and (because of its density) is used to lift all the loose dirt and in particular the stones, out of the hole as it is sunk. A lot of cowboy borers just do not use it because it cuts their expense. It must be used. It also ensures that the side of the hole are consistant – it will seep into the uneven side wall forming a consistant smooth surface which consolidates the wall and helps to prevent it from collapsing in over time – nothing worse than having a borehole wall that has collapsed in at 30 meters and compressing part of the tube wall – stopping you from retrieving your expensive submersible pump to get the stones out the impeller! So when you go round to see the guy (always best to go & see him first – and then follow it up with a meeting at your place), just look around his yard to see if there are slurry settling tanks lying around. If he uses slurry he'll have settling tanks lying around because they like to collect it as it comes up, let it settle and pump it back down again. No tanks then ask him if you uses slurry. If he says not needed, then move on. IT IS NEEDED to do the job properly – simple as that.
2) Borehole tubing –you get borehole tubing and you get borehole tubing. The cowboys will use the thinnest stuff they can get away with. Go check out the tubing yourself – get a quote from the boreholer, then ask him what the tubing costs, get that taken off and go get it yourself – so you know what's been used and get advise from the hardware store as to what is good tubing and what is not. Don't skimp on the lining.
3) Joining the tubes in the hole: 3 methods – threaded, screwed, pvc adhesive. Use screws and you are asking to be screwed. They will rust if not stainless steel, which will mean if ever you have to lift the lining you will not be able to. If not correctly screwed in they can break, or just as bad – as someone else has reported: they stuck through so far into the hole in his case they prevented him from getting the pump down the hole. The sharps ends can also wreck havock on the power supply cable in the hole over time. PVC adhesive would be a better choice, but again, it's adhesive strength can breakdown over time which again will prevent you from lifting the tubes if you ever need to. End threaded tubes are the best – they form a good tight joint and wont separate.
4) Dropping the pump: if using a submersible use 2 (TWO) stainless steel wire cables – not one. If one snaps you're buggered – try lifting a 10kg submersible from 30 meters on it's power cable. Not wise. Use two cables so you have redundancy and ensure they are stainless steel not normal multi-strand wire steel.
5) Who to use: well, I assuming you have been speaking to the locals who have boreholes and they have all had theirs done by the same guy and they have all been going for 5 or 10 years,, then I guess that's a fair bet. But failing that, and having understood all the above will be adhered to, what else: well, ask the guy if he has hydrology maps for your area. All the professionals will have maps and water table data for your area and will be able to tell you the mean, low and high water table levels for your area, season to season for the last 20 years – something that has been and is monitored very carefully by the authorities all over Thailand.
6) Get a good concreate cap poured around the borehole at ground level – and have a lockable cap on the top of the tube (to stop rubbish getting into the tube and someone nicking your submersible pump – they do get nicked).
How deep will your borehole have to be – well, about as deep as those around you who have boreholes, but there is no average – each area, depending on its elevation above sea level will have its water table at a different height relative to the surface – and will be affected by the geology of the region. Some areas are as shallow as 6 – 10meters for good all year round water supply, and in other areas (like where I am) you have to go down 80 – 100 meters to get year round water. Clay areas shallow, chalky areas deeper, and the deepest boreholes are found in the sandstone and granite areas – which also give the best water as the sandstone acts as a brilliant filter. Chalky areas make the water real hard with calcium.
If anyone has their own "borehole experience" to add – go ahead.
Tim
Hi Tim, thanks for all the infomation on boreholes, very interesting reading, I would like your advice on some options i have, firstly we have a borehole with a submersible that pumps about 10 gallons a minute, enough for 1 sprinkler over a 20 mtr radius, apparantley the hole is 30mtr and even now in dry season keeps going all day, it has to pump water uphill 200mtr and irrigate 9 rai of papaya, and in the next few weeks want to plant 6 rai of banana, its a red clay soil and seems very water retentive, the borehole is 12inch, delivery pipe is blue 2inch, picking your brains now, is it possible to make exsisting hole deeper? or/and get a bigger pump? thanks for any advice you can give, Lickey..
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When you can create a Money Tree let me know I will be your Accountant
According to my better half, we've got one of those.
We have all seen the walking tractors, now is the advent of the walking ATM, usally in shorts and sandals, 60+ has a 25 year old girl filling the trolley with luxury goods,seen it many times now, well, good luck to the old geezers,
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ray
I'll be following your posts I'm hoping to make the move out to LOS sometime over the next couple of years and am a keen biker too, havent visited Isaan yet but have strangely already fallen in love with the place
May get to Isaan somewhere later this year for a few weeks to see what its like, and am thinking of seeing some parts of it by bike
I too will be coming over as a single person so its good to know theres some nightlife and drinking places, but also thousands of rai of undisturbed countryside too
Looking forward to the simple life already...
Beeing a keen biker myself {Yamaha XJR1200} i must tell you that the biking season in Issan is more or less over now, winter has finished and temp day and night is rising rapidly, 38c day, 23c nights, and i certainly would never ride my bike at night, because of the rough roads and walking tractors,trucks,cars, other small bikes that do not have back lights!!!As for day riding, its ok, but the heated wind gusts hit you and near leave you breathless, also big bikes are same price as UK, if you want to import your own, about 130% import tax,thats a downer!! i wanted to bring my ZZR1100, {faired bikes will cook you alive!! } an upper is tax and insurance is about 12quid ayear and petrol is 20p a litre, I live in Namsom, about 100ks NW of Udon Thani, if you are around this way, would be good to have a sherbet together,,
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Learn to cook
And Thai food is basically food left in the deep fryer until there is nothing left, then chillied back to life ...
Quite right Phil, I dont get any farang food here in north Issan, the closest i get is going to Tesco Lotus in Udon once a fortnight, then its only minced beef and some steaks i have to soak in milk for 24 hours to make them tender, My wife is a brilliant cook, and can make a mean spaghetti bolagnese amongst all the local thai dishes, The thai dishes are ok, but why do they need 3/4/5 different spice side-dishes with them?? Thai food is the same flavour all the way through, you have to add spices/chillies ect to make it more interesting!! Back in UK, used to go to mums every sunday for dinner, roast rib of beef with yorkshires, sliced carrotts, roast potatoes,brussell sprouts,roast artichokes,new potatoes,cauliflower and small peas,a gravy boat made only from the meat juices and vegtable stock,there would be a jar of horseradish and colemans mustard and fresh ground black pepper if needed,
My point is that everything on the plate has its own individual flavour and dosent need things that make your eyebrows drip and grab for coldwater/beer, what do you reckon?
Alex,
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Pumping water up into a tank that is high enough to give you the head you need for sprinklers or a drip system will consume approximately the same amount of energy as pumping directly into the sprinklers or drip system....so there will be no appreciable energy savings from the standpoint of developing pressure for distribution....if, however, you want to pump the water faster than you are using it in the fields then the tank will act as storage and you could use a large pipe from the pump to the tank so that would reduce flow friction so there could be some energy savings there but its probably minimal. Also storage is good for people who have intermitten water availability so storage gets you through the dry times.
Chownah
Thankyou for your input Chownah, my plan is to take a meter reading before and after filling my tank, there fore only pay for what i take, for top ups, fill ups ect, being on a well drained hillside i think bananas will thrive on little mositure, so a gravity fed system could be ok for this? look forward to yours and others comments on this, Alex
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You raise a valid point there - to be honest I wasn't thinking about this from a Ph perspective - just from a odour neutralisation point of view.
If you are concerned about PH then repaeated plain water rinsing will do the job (in theory).
Household bleach (while having a decent anti-bacterial effect as well) is a great odour neutraliser and should do the job in one go (i.e. fill up with 2 or 3% percent solution, stir well and leave for a day or so).
Tim
Hi everybody, im new on here and have been following all the irigation posts, about gravity feed drip systems ect, On my wifes farm her brother irrigates Papaya with a sprinkler system, last months electricty bill was 2000bht for a bore hole pump and 2 in-line 2inch pumps from a farm across the road, the water from here costs 6000bht a year, {500 a month] plus some fertilizer and some spray againt disease, another 1000bht, he sold a load and got 6000bht, he extended the water system about another 800 bht, plus he travels an hour each way to his home town everyday, add all this up and he made about 1500bht for a month, It seems to me the biggest cost is electricty, Getting to the point, weve just had 6 rai cleared of Thai potatoes, and are thinking of banana plants for a quick turnround in money ect, but this sprinkler system has got me thinking that water will go to waste and promote other things to grow, in 1 of the dutch? barns on the farm there must be 400 meters of 1in pipe with mini sprinklers attached, {obviously a pressure fed system} perhaps if on a gravity fed tank they would only drip?? .
Coming to tanks, ive read a lot on other blogs here and it seems a bit complicated and expensive to me, now what do you think of this idea? i went past a transport yard the other day, and there was an old truck tank laying in the grass, looks like it came of a fuel tanker, about 30ft long, probally holds about 28000 ltrs, the inlet and all the different outlet pipes are still attached, im thinking if i got this cleaned out and checked for leaks, a coat of paint ect, place it at highest point on the farm, {thats easy, its on a hill above where we want to do bananas} fill it from the bore hole pump and hey presto!!!
Will send missus brother to ask price of tank,cleaning and transport to farm, and concrete support for it.
Has anbody got any ideas or misgivings about this idea?
Thanks, Alex.
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Not a lot to see? Weellll.....that depends on who's doing the looking! Been to places where I've been told that it's a waste of time going there, only to find that the place is fantastic. Been to recommended places, where you can't move for farangs, food carts and garbage everywhere. Can't say I'm a temple fan - temples and "touristy" stuff is nice, but PEOPLE sure is better! Hear the people in NS are real friendly (also mentioned in a previous post), which in my book counts a whole lot. We ain't all beerbar maniacs - heh heh! (though I admit that I did the BB rounds when I first came to LOS). Yeah, I'll take the advice and stay nightly at the resort - just in case we come across another hotel in a different area - thanks. We'll no doubt be in FRESH ONE - hope they have hot coffee (Nescafe is quite okay). Farm? Hey - sounds great! Good luck with the new shop, as well.
Is the owner of the noisy MC your good self?
Yes the bike is mine, besides my lovely missus, it gives me an adrenalin rush when i ride it through the town, sometimes a brown adrenalin rush when little bikes come out of side roads without looking!!!yes sisters shop has hot and iced Nescafe, and if its people watching you like, like me, you wont be disapointed, the mainstreet is always heaving in and around the market, youve welcome to come up to our farm, its peaceful there and abundant with fruit, and hopefully the new shop will be open in April, first it will have a salon, my wifes proffesion is a beautician, and we want to add a sauna and a hot tub, bar/resturant, 1st floor is living 1/4s 3 rd floor will be open, have roof with metre high wall, want recliners and water spray feature, plenty of plants, just like a garden up in the air, with tables and waiter service, thats the plan!! cheers for now, Lickey..
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Thanks for the info on renting wheels - I'll find the place. The attraction with NS? Only for a holiday in the area (Udon and surrounding areas). I'm one of those irritating buggers that likes to know as much as possible beforehand, about the practical side of where I'm going. Seeing as NS is rather off the beaten track, what better way to find out, than to ask? Ever been stuck out in the middle of nowhere and got no idea where anything is? It can be a bit scary. Most larger places you can dig up lots of info from books and the internet, but seeing as the gf wants to see NS, I'm obliging her (and my) curiosity. If I left it to her, we'd arrive at Udon with our bags and have no idea where to go or how to get anywhere. Anyway, I luv out of the way places! Working in NS? You kidding me? I'm here to relax and take in the many sights - hopping around LOS is a real treat. "Work" is (for me) in the past tense.
Cheers
I have to tell you that there is not a lot to see in NS, got the usual buddha temple in the middle of a lake, thats in town centre, I think you can walk up one of the local mountains for a view of the town, i havent ventured that far yet, been busy on farm and new shop,a mate came to visit for new years eve, he paid 2500bht for 5 nights at resort in advance, I think i would pay nightly, considering what little there is to see and do here, anyway, when you arive in NS,keep going into town, when the road narrows look for traffic lights, then look on your right for FRESH ONE, 24 hour covenence store, go in there and ask for Alex and Pan, its Pans sisters shop, failling that ask anybody for the falang who rides a Yamaha xjr1200, red with blue silencer and bit noisy!!
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Weellll....Ain't no guarantee that the hotel is IN the town - might just be outside of town. Also - I'll (hopefully) be on a rented motorbike. Not too excited about showing up in the area with a bag and not being able to find a hotel or guest house. But - thanks - anyway for the suggestion.
Sounds like you're a bit of an adventurer.
I'm sure you'll find the locals happy to point the strange traveller in the right direction.
Hopefully Lickey will chime in and give you an indication where in town it is, I'm not sure why you think it might be anywhere else, amongst the rice paddies?
Unless you're experienced in backpacking around asia i'd be more worried you might not find the hotel to your taste.
You can always carry on to Nongkhai as there are plenty of hotels there, but by then you'll probably be too hot and bothered from your travels to conteplate that.
Hi Scooterboy, I will tell you where motel is if you bring me some colemans mustard powder and rizzla blue fag papers,
only joking but would be nice!! if you are coming from Udon Thani,go out north torwards Nong khai, look for road number 2021 on your left, go through Ban Phu, look for road 2348 for Namsom, when you have done about 100 kilometers, you should be in Namsom, just before you get into NS, there is a really bumpy bad road, when bad road finish, over flat river bridge, turn right at big junction, about 300 meters on left is small sign Padow resort as far as i can make out, this is about 2 kilometer from town center and market, the small house is air condition, has TV, has shower, english toilet, but no food is available here, you have to go to town for this,from this place to market, about 40 bht for tuk tuk , Be prepared for Mossies, hot sun, humidity, hot spicy food,April mmm, perhaps start of heavy rain and no electric for some days, only drink botteled water, and wash any salad you eat with bottled water, I have a criteria, if we go to a resturant, i always check toilet 1st, if toilet is dirty and no paper or hand basin, kitchen staff also use toilet, it gives me good idea that food will be unclean, street vendors are better, ok, more food for thought for you, Lickey,
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PB,
don't know the name of the shop but it's run by a really nice and helpful Chinese/Thai gentleman and always has hoardes of dreams/waves e.t.c outside. Prob is the same shop but there are 2 or 3 on Chang Moi plus bicycle shops too so Thanh may find the lube in one of the others too.
Alex,
no probs for the pipes and sorry again I picked up the wrong ones. Will source a stout box and send the correct ones, although it won't be next week as I have a mate & his wife visiting. Don't worry about sending the Honda ones back - maybe just start a topic in this forum offering them for free if the buyer pays postage.
Cheers,
Pikey.
Ok Jeff, thanks for that, yes, good idea to advertise pipes, might be somebody got a rotted or holed pipe or silencer, hope your mates enjoy Chang Mai, all the best, Alex & Pan,,
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Alex,
Nice to hear from you mate. Nope, had no idea that the chain was a goldlink as I only put about 3000km on the bike in the year I had it due to work commitments so just lubed it before & after riding.
Yes, EP140 tranny oil applied with a toothbrush is another good lube and mate, it's bloody sticky!
K1 Honda exhausts? Seems like I probably picked up the wrong ones from the shop. let's get this sorted. Give me a day or two to discover how the mixup happened and dig out the originals, then we can meet again in Uttaradit to swap them - and have a beer and chat this time
. Still have your number so will buzz you when i have the info. Very sorry about that and hope that apart from what you mentioned, you are happy with the bike?Cheers,
Pikey.
Hi Pikey, thanks for your call today, and I agree with you, we both had a long way to travel that day and being falangs it was very hot for us, we just wanted to do deal and get in air con trucks and go home!! I didnt notice pipes were honda till last week, was looking for something to do, so cleaned silencers ect, they look soo similar to the Yamaha standard setup, i didnt question them at the time, im sure you feel the same, its very good of you to send me original pipes, I can send Honda pipes and silencers back if you want, or perhaps there is somebody in this forum who wants them?? thanks Jeff, bye for now, Alex.
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Thanh,
When your BF is next in Chiang Mai, send him down Chang Moi road (off the east side of the moat with "Mike's Burgers" on the corner) past 2 sois on the right and just before he gets to the 3rd soi on the right (with Thai Military bank on the corner) there is a bike shop that DEFINITELY sells Veloil as I bought a can a couple of weeks back. If you want something more heavy duty, try Chiang Mai Moto-X which is on the N.E corner of the moat (on the inside) as they may have something but am unsure.
Cheers & good luck!
Pikey. (Honda XR400 Supermoto owner
)Hello Jeff, remember me? Alex, bought your Yamaha 1200.. did you know the chain on Yam was a goldlink special?? i didnt know till i treated it to a birthday!! washed it with diesel, that cleaned it a treat!! took about an hour, then dried it of with old towel, then as we do in UK, painted it with heavy duty transmission oil, ep90 or 140, sticks like shit to a blanket, now, on the center stand, the wheel turns nice and easy,My brother in UK sent me clutch slave cyl seal kit, done that today, hopefully will not leak anymore, I had time to look at original exhausts you sold me with bike last week, they are off a K1 750 Honda, Alex,,
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Hi,
Thanks for the good info! You got a motel there? Where is it and what's the name of the motel?
Nobody is painting a "negative" picture of Nam Som - which is good. But I already know that NS is a quiet place - this is no problem. It sounds like NS is getting bigger, anyway.
Thanks
Scooterboy
I dont know name of motel, my good lady told me, but cant put in english letters, they never seem very busy there so getting a house should be easy, but dont worry about accomadation, my girls family have big houses here, and i have small house on our farm, are you coming here to meet a girl? or just want a break from civilisation? I see in previous replies that somebody did paint a poor picture of NS, for me its a well serviced small town, the shopkeepers are friendly and if you are with a local, there is no chance they will stitch you up, because they want you to come back, and dont want bad name, if you come in April, be prepared, its as hot as hel_l here, night and day, 40s in day might drop to 30 in night if you are lucky, ok, food for thought for you, stay in touch, Alex,,
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Sorry to bother you well-informed guys - a lot of you seem to know an amazing
amount of info - very impressive and excellent comments!
I'm planning to go to the "Nam Som" (NS) area in 2007 (April, May?) for a while
and it would be a great help to know something about the place
beforehand (don't seem to be able to find much info on the internet - not even a
detailed map of the town). NS is sorta between Udon and Nongkhai.
Maybe some of you already live there, or know the area.
Apologies for what may be considered "stoopid" questions or if I've placed this
in the wrong forum....
1. Is NS mainly a farming community or is there any development happening there?
I'm wondering if NS is more than just a crossroads and that the place is perhaps
expanding - houses & businesses being built.
2. What roughly is the population and any (many?) farangs live in NS ?
3. Is there a fresh food & veg market in or around NS, daily or weekly ?
4. Got cable-tv in NS ?
5. Any supermarkets and 7-11 stores (or the equivalent) in NS?
6. Got bars or pubs there?
7. Any farang-type of restaurants or places that serve some western food in NS?
Especially breakfast (like bacon, eggs, toast & coffee) - ain't always easy eating
rice first thing in the morning!
8. Got any hotels or guest houses in NS ?
9. Got banks and ATMs there ?
More crazy questions will no doubt follow, depending on the replies - so
gonna pester you nice folks for a while - heh heh!
Sure would appreciate just about ANY info on the place, seeing as I know absolutely
zilch about NS - thanks for reading this and even more thanks for replying.
Hi, Im english and live in Namsom, there is a 24hr convenice store and 2 ATMs, 7 day week market, food clothing ect, BBQ pub with draught thai beer, 2 strong for me, i drink heinieken, avalable at many shops, daily air con bus service to BK, regular servive to Udon, to get some farang stuff from Tesco Lotus, no, you wont get any western food here, eggs and tomatoes ok, but as for bacon, definitely no go!! have motel here, about 2500bht a week, cofee, plenty of, cable tv, yes, hospital, clinic, and farming is big here, there main income, hope this helps a little, Alex,
Anyone Know The Nam Som Area? (udon)
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Hi Scooterboy, ive only just got internet working again and read your mails, we were at home when you arrived in NS, just round the corner from Fresh One, Pans sister Pun is a petite pretty lady, Did you ask for us? would have been nice to meet you both, would have loved to show you farm, its so peaceful there, on top of a hill with a bit breeze allday, ok, glad you enjoyed NS, and there is a good bus sevrice from Udon, proper buses, not the glorified tuk tuks you will have seen on your journey here and back, its the big blue and white ones with alexander written on the side, [nothing to do with me!! } although ive never tried these buses, they do look the <deleted>, and dont forget the little 12 seater air-con Merc bus that runs twice daily, youd have to do a bit of searching in Udon to find these buses but im sure your GF will suss it out, Look us up next time you come to NS, Best wishes, Alex & Pan..