Chaichara

4 minutes ago, Saraphee said:

Wont buy if I have to ask for the price of everything. Please put your prices on the website

4 minutes ago, Saraphee said:

Wont buy if I have to ask for the price of everything. Please put your prices on the website

You might wish to change that statement for something more accurate and less misleading.

I've been buying online since the Internet began and I've never found it an inconvenience to call and ask for a price. If you were genuinely interested in a product where a price is not displayed, that's what you would do.

This product is extremely expensive. Not generally an option for private domestic spool. Looks  good in the water though,

41 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Really I wonder why

'If you  live in  this country  you  need to  understand that  whatever the law is, culture and what  is commonplace may  be very different'

If you  have lived anywhere in  developing  economies, you  will  have noticed that  very  little operates on  the perfection  and adherence to  laws as it  does in  Western-style nations.

'The  vast majority of motorcyle-car accidents are the fault  of the mortorcyclist. '

-  because in Thailand a very large number of the motorcycles are driven by children who  are then sadly also  most  often the victims of the accidents they cause.

5 hours ago, Happyman58 said:

Most important question? How  can 11 and 12 year old have a license to ride a motorbike The correct action that should of been taken is the keystone cops should of went and seen the parents and booked them for letting them ride that bike and make them pay for the damages.That is the normal procedure in most countries but this is hollywood (Oh sorry Thailand my mistake) and they are the keystone cops. Mate you did nothing wrong It is just the idiots on the road who are the blame

Who said they had driving licences? I didn't. And in  my  post  about  the accident  I  had in an Isan village some years ago, I  didn't  mention it  either.  The police didn't  even bring  it  up at  the interview either, or the fact  that  the motorcycle was neither taxed nor  insured. The girs were simply  admonished with  a wagging  finger and pinted to  a poster on the police station  wall  about always wewaring  a helmet. If you  live in  this country  you  need to  understand that  whatever the law is, culture and what  is commonplace may  be very different. Primary schoolyards here are full of the children's motorcycles. The  vast majority of motorcyle-car accidents are the fault  of the mortorcyclist.

Very  sad,  but I would be hesitant to immediately accord any blame to  the farang. Motorcycle injuries even at  low speed can have serious consequences even if the truck  driver had stoped in time.

In Isan some years ago  I  was waiting  at  a village crossroad with no priority markings, checking that  the road was clear for me to  advance when a motorcycle with  two very  young  girls (11 and 12) came whizzing  round the corner on  the wrong  side of the road. They  crashed head on  into the front of my pickup and they required ambulant  hospital attention requiring stiches to arms, knees, and heads.  They were fortunate I wasn't  moving  at the time.

They were admonished by the police at the interview. I had to fork out for a new bumper, radiator grille, and bonnet, for my car which was almost  new.

Since they  came on the market,  I  have dashcams in all my  cars. They are not expensive. It  dosen't  help  much though if the guilty party is not insured (most motorcycles are not) but  it can certainly clear up questions of blame.

Britain  is not  run  by  an executive presidency and May  is not  the president. So fortunately  the UK kind  of democracy  does have some  checks and balances.

The Brexit  reforendum was a failed excercise. A popular suffrage of this kind  (such  as also  Scottish independence) is so  important  that  it  should need to  be carried by  at  least  a two-thirds majority.

The actual result  of the reforemndum was completely  unexpected and nobody  was prepared for the can of worms it  would open, a government  with  a weak  majority that  would be left  to  carry  the decision  through, and the ultimate cost  to  the taxpayers and international  trade, of withdrawal  from  the Union. The actual  ripples of withdrawal  will  be felt  for  another  two  decades. Not  only, but  there are also issues to  be resolved with  the UK-Irish  border, and the strong Scottish wish  to  remain  in  the Union -  internal  affairs  that  are not  directly  concerned with  the international  politics of Brussels.

If the referendum were to  be held again it would now almost  certainly  go the other way. If the government and parliament  can't  make up  their minds in  a timely  manner, maybe this would be the only  solution.

That  said (and just  my  opinion), none of the traditional  British  political  parties are currently  in  a sufficiently  strong position, either with  the electorate or within themselves, to  lead the country  properly.

All  that  said, Thailand actually  has some of the most  relaxed requirements in  the world  for  entering  the country for  a short tourist stay. That's why I choose it  as a venue for  some  international  conferences and courses I organise. Try getting  into  Australia or Canada for example, even as a Brit!

There is a clear misunderstanding  among  many  expats: A visa is a visa and nowadays it's a big  blue sticker in the passport. A 15-day (land border)  or a 30-day  (airport  arrival)  stamp is NOT  a visa.

FWIW, for  several  years after my  last  Work Permit  expired and until  I  got  a Retirement  Visa, I  was tavelling  to  the UK once a year  and getting a new multiple  entry  Tourist  Visa from  the Thai  consulate in Birmingham which  used to  be issued in  about  20  minutes. Then on  the last  attempt, they  told me they  can't  do  that  anymore there and would have to  send the application  to  the higher auothority , the Thai  Embassy  in  London. London  refused it saying  I  had had too  many  tourist  visas already but  they  would accord me a single entry Tourist Visa but for  the last  time. The guy  at  the Consulate advised me to  do  that  and then get  it  converted to  a retirement  Visa when I  got  back  to  Thailand. Which  worked.

37 minutes ago, goltec said:

A pool should always have at least 2 main drains..... like all modern pools in the rest of world do. In Thailand they still build new pools with just 1.

 

With all due respect, I think this is rather a sweeping statement. Have you visted pool constructions in every country in the world?  I have seen pools in at least 20 countries including the USA, Europe, and Australia, and my experience is different -  including the pools in modern 5-star hotels. However, I do not disagree with the precaution of two drains, but DIY builders will do what they  like. It's a lot cheaper than retrofitting the unit described by SwimmingPoolsThailand.

Enough money for a ticket to Thailand and then has to steal a bag. Makes you wonder who you're sitting next to on a plane....

The Loei route  is very  scenic. Plenty  of Western style restaurants  with  good Western food in  the mountains.

Be sure to get a fairly accurate estimate for anything they do. You don't  want  a repeat of the earlier issues. If during the course of work,  they discover more problems, or the work is more complex than they thought, the cost could add up.

This pool was clearly not built by a professional.

The tiling is shoddy - not even straight -  heaven knows what  it would look like if they were to build a 15  or 12 metre pool. There is no visual evidence that the tiles were laid correctly on properly applied special adhesive for pools. The pump and plumbing installation is frankly a mess. Admittedly the space is a bit cramped but at least correct quality of pipes and fittings should have been used -  and it's my guess that the builder has never heard of the special glue that must be used with PVC swimming pool pipes (and that's probably the issue with the underground leak) or even that 13.5 grade pipes were used -  they  certaily  weren't  for  some of the elbows. And what's with the cheap blue general purpose taps? Definitely not designed for pool use. The main drain seems to be missing its 5  -  10cm sump.

On another note,  the original price would be about right in the provinces for a quality job, but  quoted prices of 400K even in expensive BKK would be suspiciously high unless they are including a swim jet.

1 mio baht for this pool would be totally exaggerated, that kind of money gets a proper 10x4 built by a top professional company (well, perhaps just a little bit more in BKK, but as far as I know there are only 2 truly professional pool firms in BKK, and they are indeed expensive and they generally decline small jobs). Anyone paying (or who has paid) much more might be getting a good pool, but they are also getting well and truly ripped off.

The police should investigate this closely.  One never knows - it could well have been due to shoddy work by the pool constructor.

5 minutes ago, carlyai said:

So there you go Emaux suppliers. Why not supply a certified transformer with your lights?
You want people to use those deck boxes, but can't supply a certified transformer. Crazy.

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5 minutes ago, carlyai said:

 

The response you  would probably  get  from  the suppliers is something  like:

"We  supply  these as a service. If you  want  us to  import  certified  units, you'll  complain about  the price. If you  don't  like  the ones we offer, go  to  your  local  electric store and buy  them your  self".

And I  would add: better still, get  your  lights installed by  a certified electrician. That;'s probably  what  the pool  equipment  manufacturers expect  anyway. It  says (usually)  in  their documemntation something  like 'This equipment  should only  be installed by  a pool  professional  or qualified electrician'. I  saw a DIY  job recently  where a farang wired his expensive new LED pool  lights near my  house in Krabi directly  to  220V. Nearly  40,000 baht  down the drain!

22 minutes ago, grollies said:

Just as a matter of interest, why are certified transformers not supplied along with the lights?

 

I received 'locally made' transformers with my Emaux lights last year. They are shocking quality (pun intended).

Transformers are by their very nature, very heavy and costly to import in spite of having a relatively low manufacturing cost.

The time to criticise the quality is when they don't do what they are supposed to do. I have 12 of those locally made transformers supplied with the lights when my pools were built 10 years ago and they are all still working perfectly.

13 minutes ago, cloudman said:

where can these LED lights be purchased and price?

Swimming Pools Thailand sells them. But they are fairly well distributed throughout Thailand. You can get them online  or in their regional stores.

5 minutes ago, madmax2 said:

I will check again but from what i was told the shop is a accredited service agent for Kripsol pumps but not Amaux, are you saying they are not accredited???

Please read what I said. I neither said nor even implied anything of the sort. AFAIK, the nearest accredited Emaux shop to you is in Krabi - ironically managed by a fully professional Swedish pump and electric motor expert. I don't know anything about Kripsol products or the shop in Phuket. Like you, I generally shop at the nearest possible, genuine pool firm. That suits me for my little farm in Isan and my little beach front house in Krabi. I've got Emaux pumps in both my pools and they are still going strong after 10 years.

3 minutes ago, madmax2 said:

Are you talking about local Phuket suppliers with a local warranty

Not much use if you have to send something to Bangkok for a warranty claim in my opinion

It depends whether the 'local' pool shop is an accredited service agent. Most of them are not and send the products on to BKK anyway - always assuming of course that the brand has sufficient sales in Thailand for the manufacturer to even put in place a service infrastructure. I can cite a couple of world famous brands whose pumps get 'imported' into Thailand but the moment anything goes wrong with them, even while supposedly covered by guarantee, the manufacturer refuses to lift a finger and the vendor is left carrying the can. Caveat emptor.

58 minutes ago, madmax2 said:

better priced and longer warranty than Emaux so i will probably buy one and see how good the brand is , still thinking about it

I  suggest you check that again. I just did. Depends where you go.

27 minutes ago, carlyai said:

What's wrong with soldering 12 V cables together and protecting the soldered joint with waterproof shrink on insulation? Then mounting them above the pool fill level?
 

Probably nothing, but if all the underwater light manufacturers and professional  pool builders all over the world use deck boxes, why go against the grain? And as our sponsor said, why  compromise your guarantee?

The lights look like Emaux lights - IMO a good choice in brand. The advice provided by grollies is correct.

However, the place to get absolutely certain professional advice would be your vendor -  always assuming they are a genuine, competent pool company.

You need to test the water with a basic test kit that you can buy in pool shop or online for about Baht 200.00

Your pH must be between 7.2 and 7.6

If it is below, you need pH PLUS (soda ash). if it is above, you need pH MInus (dry acid). get these products in (most) pool shops but also certainly online at a GOOD online pool store - shop around and don't be influenced by claims of 'lguranteed owest prices' - the service you get is more important, and check the shipping costs.

Shock the water first with a small amount of chlorine powder, say about 250 gr, and repeat dcaily until the level is correct. After that, for this small pool you can use qa folating chlorine dispenser loaded with chlorine tablets (go for a good quality such as PoolChlor, rather than Acuchlor).

There are differences in quality. I've tried them all at some time or another (bearing in mind that for some years now I've been using a Zodiac chlorinator). I've not noticed any appreciable difference between Nissan and PoolChlor, but Acuchlor doesn't dissolve so fast and sometimes leaves some residue.

Retail prices however, seem to be arbitrarily set by the various pool shops, so the price isn't always indicative of the quality.

This looks like the same kind of container that is shipped with PoolChlor (a better brand IMO, but possibly a fraction more expensive) from SwimmingPoolsThailand online shop. In which case, it's a screw thread lid.