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JonnyF

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  1. 41 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

    Which racist nationalists are you referring to? Can you have them? As someone who has supported independence my entire adult life, are you including me in that category?

     

    Why do you think that independence means no trade between Scotland and England? Where will those English companies which do significant trade with Scotland find alternative customers?

     

    What about the current net transfer of commodities such as hydrocarbons and electricity? How would England replace those?

     

    And water? England is already experiencing increased drought events and expected to require to import water within the decade. If you don't want to buy it from your nearest neighbour, you better get those divining rods out.

    My point clearly went over your head.

     

    Every economic argument the Remainers made for staying in the EU could be applied to Scotland staying in the UK. Every accusation/insult that was thrown at Brexiteers for wanting to be Independent of the EU could be thrown at Scottish nationalists.

     

    Fortunately for you, you've got no chance of leaving. If you did, you'd be in dire straits. You wouldn't even have a currency unless you wanted to have your economic policy set by the BOE. It would be a decade before the EU threw you a bone in the form of a terrible deal to join them. It's a fantasy peddled by a power hungry charlatan in the form of Sturgeon. Unicorn stuff. Sunny uplands? Hardly...

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  2. 26 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

    Sauce for the goose? Scotland isn't the EU - and the EU did not receive 90ish% of the UK income and return what it saw fit.

    Well the EU isn't a country. Yet...

     

    If you were to gain Independence (which you won't) you'd soon find out what a great deal you get as part of the UK. Let's see what Brussels offers you, if they even allowed you into their failing federalist project. You think little old Scotland would have a seat at the top table? You think the EU would be throwing money at you?

     

    BTW, why would you want to leave your biggest trading partner who also happens to be your next door neighbour? It's like you want to apply economic sanctions on yourself or something. Nobody in Scotland is voting to be poorer. You think all immigration will stop if you leave the UK? Don't let the racist little nationalists ruin your country for some failed ideology. Hmmm, those arguments sound somewhat familiar, no?

     

    Sauce for the goose indeed.

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  3. 39 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

    The Scots were entitled to believe that they were going to be in the EU permanently from 1972. The UK parliament has betrayed them.

    The SNP was campaigning for independence long before Brexit was on the cards. It's just an excuse to try to justify another vote. If they were to get another vote and lose again, they'll simply come up with another reason to run it again.

     

    Same as Brexit, sometimes the losers just won't accept they've lost. The 2014 vote was decisive. Most Scots wish to stay which is not surprising given the great deal they've been given by the government.

  4. 2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

    So 50% of the Scottish electorate need protection from England because they are too stupid to make a rational decision for themselves? 

    Actually they made a very rational decision in 2014.

     

    2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

    Given the last 12 years of England's choices for government, i can only assume that that your post was written in jest...

    I suggest you check Sturgeon's record on drugs, education etc. before you criticize the English government too much. Although, like many Scottish nationalists you do seem to have a history of disliking and blaming the English for everything.

  5. 2 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

    May that as it be, it still doesn't change the fact that circumstance has changed dramatically and therefore they should be allowed to vote again! 

    Sometimes people need to be protected from themselves. An independent Scotland would be a disaster, a failed state. There are so many reasons why they should remain in the UK it's not even funny. 

     

    Don't let a few anti-English nationalist extremists shout down the majority.

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  6. 12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

    I can think of no better way to convince people they want something than to have someone they already distrust tell them they can’t have it.

     

     

    Well even if they did want it (and when offered the choice in 2014, they clearly voted against it), they can't have it.

     

    The clue is in the thread title.

     

    The Supreme court has ruled. You respect the law, don't you?

     

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  7. 3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

    Just watch the GOP use their razor thin majority to burn the house down to the ground rather than pass bipartisan legislation.

    I don't think a thorough investigation into this shady, sordid affair can really be classified as burning the house to the ground.

     

    I can see why you wish it would all just fade away though. Somewhat unlikely now the Republicans have a majority. I, for one, very much look forward to the truth finally coming out, it's long overdue.

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