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1 minute ago, ozimoron said:Please go away and come back when you can learn to quote correctly, instead of incorrectly paraphrasing. She meant what she said.
I'll stay here thanks.
Just shout Racist again, that'll work.
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3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:Right, but she didn't ask about heritage, did she?
She asked where her ancestors came from. Why is that racist?
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1 minute ago, ozimoron said:Right, but she didn't ask about heritage, did she?
She asked where she was from.
How is that racist?
Thais ask me where I am from all the time. If I said I was born in Bangkok to farang parents, they'd ask me where I/they came from originally. It's normal, since my heritage is obviously not Thai.
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Just now, ozimoron said:Racism was never in date.
Just repeating the word Racism doesn't mean you win the argument. ????
I repeat, asking about someone's heritage is not racist.
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4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:Sadly we live in an age where people still think racism is acceptable.
It's not racist to ask about someone's heritage.
Do you get offended every time a Thai asks where you are from? I mean, how dare they assume you are not Thai just because you are a Farang. How dare they.
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5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:Are you suggesgting that one cannot be old and sharp as a tack? If she is still hosting royal events (and why is she still there?) then I don't think she is some dottery old bird who doesn't know what century she is in.
More likely, she has lived a life of utter privilege and patronage; she is a racist in the Alf Garnett mould.
I would suggest she is very priviliged and old fashioned. Probably uses outdated terminology having been raised in a different era.
It seemed to me she was genuinely interested in the woman's heritage and used the wrong words. Let's face it, it changes every 5 minutes. When I was a kid saying someone was black was wrong, you had to say coloured. Now coloured person is wrong, but black is fine and person of colour is fine. It's not easy to keep up at the best of times, especially if you don't hang around the Wokerati or prefer not to participate in their changing/attempts to own the language.
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Just now, Bluespunk said:Gleeful?
Where do you get that from?
A person repeatedly pursuing a racist line of questioning has resigned from a fairly prominent role and will no longer be in a position to abuse those doing charity work.
hussey was told by the charity worker that she was British by birth, but hussey refused to accept this and continued her line of questioning.
It is good such a person resigned.
Of course you are gleeful. When learning of her fate you simply remarked "Good". Can't be more obvious than that.
By the way, it is possible to be British by birth but your family heritage is from somewhere else. It was already established that she was born in Britain. Lady Hussey was obviously asking where her family originated from before coming to Britain. It can be an interesting conversation starter, I remember asking the same thing of a Fijian Australian that was I working on a project with in BKK. He told me his family originated from Fiji, I remarked that I'd visited there for a month while backpacking and loved the place. We then went out to Nana and got wasted, had a great night and worked well on the project after that.
But then, he knew what I was asking and wasn't looking for leverage by being mortally offended by my perfectly innocent question.
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2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:Without wishing to sound ageist, I imagine Lady whatshername isn't on Twitter either.
The sad thing is that if she was on Twitter, I imagine she would be utterly bewildered by the upset she has caused. The opposite of being woke is being asleep.
Of course she would be bewildered. She is an old lady who was enquiring about someone's heritage and used the wrong terminology. Now the Woke mob are celebrating her downfall having attacked her like a pack of Hyenas. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
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6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:Good.
Wow. Gleeful at the downfall of an 83 year old woman for using the wrong terminology.
#bekind
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5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:
I am not sure that anyone is vilifying her
I take it you are not on Twitter?
One of thousands.... Many worse than that.
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3 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:I'm asked this question almost everyday in LOS. I am not caucasian so when I say I am from the USA then I get the "where you really from?". Is that racist? If so should I be offended and demand racial justice?
It's fine if they're Thai. Forgive them. They didn't mean anything by it.
It's only "really" racist when white people do it. Then they need to be vilified. Cancelled. Strung up if possible.
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13 hours ago, djayz said:
Why the change of heart now?
I'm guessing they've finally reached an agreement on how to divide the proceeds of the fraud.
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She worded the question poorly by the sounds of it.
Anyone with a bit of common sense knows what she meant. Vilifying an 83 year old woman for not being fluent in Woke is really low behaviour, but perfectly in keeping with the proponents of cancel culture and the perpetually offended.
Still, it could earn Ms. Fulani a spot on Harry's wife's next podcast series, assuming Spotify are stupid enough to keep it going.
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14 hours ago, RayC said:
I'll make a diary note for February 2030: Brexit benefits materialise.
Yes, do that.
No need to make a diary note to see how Scottish Independence worked out, since it's a fantasy, as this thread proves.
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11 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:
I see the double-standards of you when you are happy to pull the WHOLE of the UK out of the EU but bemoan Scotland 'walking away from their biggest trading partner and all of the trade deals it had as part of the UK'.
And they're not 'demanding exactly what they opposed so vehemently during Brexit'. The SNP didn't want Brexit because of the self-imposed trade barriers. If Scotland was independent but back in the EU, the only countries they would have trouble dealing with in Europe would ironically be England, N Ireland and Wales.
The difference is, I accepted there would be some short term pain to Brexit, in the region of 5-10 years. I was happy to do that to regain sovereignty and expand our horizons outside of the failing federalist project.
On the other hand, our Scottish nationalists think they can walk away from the UK with no debt and be accepted into the EU with a fantastic deal a couple of days later. All the other countries who currently have trade deals with the UK will also sign trade deals within the week, despite them claiming it would take Britain half a decade. The UK will just laugh away this default on 180 billion pounds of debt and continue to trade with them just as before. No hard feelings and all that. No downsides when the Scots do it, just a noble, heroic escape from the auld enemy, the evil English ????
Furthermore, eco warrior and purporter of net zero, Nicola Sturgeon is going to transform into an oil baron and drill up half of the north sea. The Scots will be driving around in gold plated Rolls Royces. Dubai on Clyde.
Delusional.
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3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:
You never answered my questions on this yesterday - do you think English companies would willingly stop trading with Scotland? Where will you get your energy from? But the end of the decade you are going to have a fresh water deficit. How will you deal with that?
Your hubris is nothing more than hot air. Practicalities on both sides will see compromise and cooperation.
Of course we wouldn't stop trading 100%. But there would be trade barriers, not only with the UK but with all the countries who currently have trade deals with the UK.
Hardly an environment in which to reduce debt.
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4 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:
Scotland doesn't have any debt.
It would if it left the UK.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/independent-scotland-could-face-181-26276527
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12 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:
Yeah I noticed that as well.
I'm not sure he's even self-aware enough to see the complete irony in his post.
Dear oh dear ????
Have you still not realized it's deliberate - to highlight the double standard of Scottish nationalists demanding exactly what they opposed so vehemently during Brexit? SMH. ????
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8 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:
From the linked article:
"He added: "There will also be assets to take into consideration (e.g. oil and gas) and these will have to be factored in, along with any other liabilities."
So not all doom and gloom!
Ah "Scotland's" oil and gas.
Scotland, lefty green Scotland, net zero Scotland, headed up by eco warrior Sturgeon, making all it's money from North Sea oil. ????
Almost as funny as proud, nationalist, independent Scotland begging to join the EU's federalist project.
It would be even funnier if you actually owned the oil, of course.
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15 minutes ago, RayC said:
No reason why an independent Scotland should not be able to apply for EU membership. Actual admission to the EU could occur after 3 years if the Scottish government manages the debt effectively.
EU Debt rule: a country is compliant if the debt-to-GDP ratio is below 60% of GDP or if the excess above 60% of GDP has been declining by 1/20 on average over the past three years.
What makes you think they could manage the debt effectively having just walked away from their biggest trading partner and all of the trade deals it had as part of the UK? Their economy would be in tatters.
Unicorn stuff.
Anyway, why would they want to join the EU if they want to be Independent? Pretty much the definition of an Oxymoron.
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1 minute ago, RayC said:
Can't see any reason why an independent Scotland wouldn't be successful in an application for EU membership.
You might want to check out the EU rules on debt.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/independent-scotland-could-face-181-26276527
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1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:
Please link me to the relevant law or constitutional clause that states a referendum can only be held once in a lifetime...
Please link me to the relevant law or constitutional clause that states there must be another referendum.
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15 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:
As I thought, no reason there cannot be another referendum.
Actually, there is no reason there would be another one.
May I refer you to the title of this thread?
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1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:
Please link me to the relevant law or constitutional clause that states a referendum can only be held once in a lifetime...
I don't recall saying it was a law.
I said it was an agreement by all parties. We took them for their word. Fool me once and all that...
If you are looking for court rulings, may I suggest you re-read the title of this thread?
Lady Susan Hussey quits over remarks to charity boss Ngozi Fulani
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Nonsense.
She acknowledged she was born in Britain but wanted to know where her ancestors were from. A normal question.
If she had said "I wish you Blacks had never come to Britain" then you may have a point on the racism. But she was enquiring where her family originated from before they came to Britain. The way she asked was clumsy, especially if you are looking for offense in every word that is uttered.