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  1. The poor peoples learn at school to accept always what the government institutions and the big company's said, so no one poor Thai is able to complain about an injustice. THAT IS FACT!

    Thailand is no different than other countries, you have money...you can do a little bit more than the poor.

  2. What a bullshit is it? After 21 year here, absolutly legal (work permit, visa and paid always my tax), I feel real discriminate, all the question...I miss only questions about my pet...how many times I use the toilet...how many times I make love with my wife...the TAT must ask before organize a EXPAT FAIR several expat about theyr situation.

     

    Many of my friends leave Thailand already because the quite bad situation.

  3. But then, people do expect to find police at a designated station (or booth). "We went to the police booth and it was unstaffed". Suppose ideally both options are followed at once.

    I got on Samui the same experience at the main police station, now the question: the guys are not at the station and not around, where do their are???

  4. Here on Samui is the tourist police "INVISIBLE", is more and important that the police show often up, many of my guests ask me always where the police is here.

    The criminality grown up more and more, the traffic getting more dangerous because the tourist doing here all the things that in their country is forbidden.

    WHERE IS "THE FIRST FRIENDS" (slogan of the tourist police)?

  5. Hey peoples,

    I really don't understand all the discussion about WP or not for the volunteer, I think that everyone shut do something to help the community especially in a country like Thailand, for a volunteer job by a government institution is not necessary to have a WP.

    Please stop this very negative discussion.

    Statement in red is absolutely FALSE (refer to the government links provided earlier, or if you have any proof that says so otherwise, please reference them).

    It's not "negative" to wish to alert people of the illegality of a situation. It's postive.

    and yet once again, it's not an issue of altruism, it's a matter of legality... which is something that someone considering joining a police force may wish to ponder.

    For goodess sake. Do you really believe any of these police volunteers are going to get in any trouble for not having a work permit? Don't be silly. You are just arguing for the exercise.

    First, I'm not "arguing", I'm informing.

    This board is read by thousands who are unaware of the law...obviously including some of the posters in this very thread.... AND even the police volunteers themselves (albeit he's an admitted ex-police volunteer).

    If police volunteers and potential police volunteers recognize that they are illegal and are aware of the repercussions of their actions and still choose to continue their work or decide to enlist into the police force, that's entirely up to them. Will they ever get into trouble? I don't know. Are you willing to guarantee they won't or are you totally dismissive of any possible scenario where the potential for getting into trouble exists. Given the severity of the punishment potential, is it worth it? If the police volunteer decides it is, then go for it. It's the same risk versus benefit analysis that smarter criminals make before committing an illegal act.

    Anyway, it's all about informed consent... and it's not informed, if posters and even the police themselves are putting out false information.

    So you have made your point now let people make their own decisions.

    As I always have through countless police volunteer threads over multiple years.... to return when the next inevitable falsehood gets posted.

    I don't think that this is our or your problem but only the problem from the peoples that decided to do so.

    Let them do what they like to do and enjoy that you are out of risk.

    if the forang t.p do not have any powers does it matter if they have a criminal record in there country of origin

    I think it will be a problem then the most of the tourist believe what they said and this can be bad.

  6. I personally believe that in principal Tourist volunteers are a good idea,The tag police is misleading and open to abuse.

    My largest concern is the lack of vetting procedure,I know of one such volunteer that has a criminal resume fagan would be proud of,he has served time for some crimes run away from others.

    People in Thailand (expats) trusted him due to his charm uniform and position he has since conned a few and is now wanted by the BIB.

    Im aware that always you will find bad people in any group, but for this position surely the BIB should check at least with embassy of applicant.

    Right! then I know about few people here that leaving ther contry because they do some criminal business there...

    Is true then the responsibility is quite big because like you writing the tourist believe and trust the farangs in uniform especially if they are together with a Thai police officer.

    Anyway the idea is not bad if they find the right way to do it.

  7. Hey peoples,

    I really don't understand all the discussion about WP or not for the volunteer, I think that everyone shut do something to help the community especially in a country like Thailand, for a volunteer job by a government institution is not necessary to have a WP.

    Please stop this very negative discussion.

    Statement in red is absolutely FALSE (refer to the government links provided earlier, or if you have any proof that says so otherwise, please reference them).

    It's not "negative" to wish to alert people of the illegality of a situation. It's postive.

    and yet once again, it's not an issue of altruism, it's a matter of legality... which is something that someone considering joining a police force may wish to ponder.

    For goodess sake. Do you really believe any of these police volunteers are going to get in any trouble for not having a work permit? Don't be silly. You are just arguing for the exercise.

    First, I'm not "arguing", I'm informing.

    This board is read by thousands who are unaware of the law...obviously including some of the posters in this very thread.... AND even the police volunteers themselves (albeit he's an admitted ex-police volunteer).

    If police volunteers and potential police volunteers recognize that they are illegal and are aware of the repercussions of their actions and still choose to continue their work or decide to enlist into the police force, that's entirely up to them. Will they ever get into trouble? I don't know. Are you willing to guarantee they won't or are you totally dismissive of any possible scenario where the potential for getting into trouble exists. Given the severity of the punishment potential, is it worth it? If the police volunteer decides it is, then go for it. It's the same risk versus benefit analysis that smarter criminals make before committing an illegal act.

    Anyway, it's all about informed consent... and it's not informed, if posters and even the police themselves are putting out false information.

    So you have made your point now let people make their own decisions.

    As I always have through countless police volunteer threads over multiple years.... to return when the next inevitable falsehood gets posted.

    I don’t think that this is our or your problem but only the problem from the peoples that decided to do so.

    Let them do what they like to do and enjoy that you are out of risk.

  8. As well as those who lived under a police state, so it's natural they would feel less than trusting.

    Hey peoples,

    I really don't understand all the discussion about WP or not for the volunteer, I think that everyone shut do something to help the community especially in a country like Thailand, for a volunteer job by a government institution is not necessary to have a WP.

    Important is for mine opinion that people that join the police force are clean people and that they don't use this position to do strange things.

    I thanks all the people that spend time and money for help other people.

    Please stop this very negative discussion.

  9. Nice quote SJ--and so true.

    These discussions always go this route and always end up getting closed because people can't seem to help themselves and not start flaming each other.

    so itis fair to say that forang police are not wanted powers or no powers

    They have no power, the idea was to have some forigner translator then a lot of people (Italian, german, france, russia etc.) are not able to speak english.

  10. I saw 3 of them from my shop tonight going to full moon party. Very hard faces, ugly uniform, escorting some VIP from BKK watching ravers.

    Why they don't go back home to enlist in the local police??? At least they can carry a real gun....

    Please begin to realize that some of them try real to help the tourist on Samui.

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