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Painful to watch that 1st half and not much better in the 2nd but showed a bit more game control. Its a funny thing to see what can happen when players decided to match the physicality of Burnley, oh and actually get bodies in the box - timely goal that was !

Glad thats out the way... easy game away to City next !

Very similar performance that to the Spurs game, just too much movement, pressure and quality on the ball for Arsenal.  In fact we have made the top 6 teams look average at best.

Adam Lallana has been a revelation under Klopp, I remember this lad not lasting more 70 mins in games !!! Bobby really finding form again with his mate Cout. 

Mane is an absolute steal at 30+ million, this guy has an unbelievable turn of pace with close control and he can finish ! 

Emre Can has been under a bit of stick and rightly so of late, but he played the role well as Deep midfield and moved the ball well, gave that physicality and did the dirty work, dark arts -  really missed that of late in our midfield.

Gini, such a tidy gifted player, its boss how he's getting into the box with late runs and getting on the score sheet. 

Yeah agreed with comments about Klavan vs Lucas used as CB, Klavan is not ideal but has played as a CB his entire career and was solid in the German league. 

Jesus these lads can really play when they want... Unfortunately we play the might Burnley next ! No doubt we will make it hard on ourselves - so Its anyones guess which of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde will turn up in Red ???

1 hour ago, StevieH said:

 

we're too powder puff and teams know it. we are easy to rattle and don't have anyone who will throw a reducer in on an opponent. way we were playing i wanted to see 5 or 6 yellow cards for us that second half against leicester. we lack moxy.

A lot has been said about our back four also, I believe our current best 2 CB if available are Matip and Lovren and I recall they have not started more than 3-4 games together if that in 2017. 

Its very clear now that when just one of first choice 11 is injured then the whole team seems to collapse, we are so reliant on our first 11 with a system so finally tuned to getting 110% out of each individual on the day. Certainly the lack of singings has been the biggest blow and mistake by all concerned.  However more worrying is recent public reports of players turning down moves to LVH and opting to go to BVB and other clubs...is that just wage issue or is it all the consistent lack of CL football.

We've passed the busy period now,  we will do much better with one game a week. 

No question we will be up for the Spurs game...

32 minutes ago, carmine said:

Definitely looks like he has one hand tied behind his back in that he doesn't have the squad depth to rotate easily.  Probably would prefer more younger fitter players, and of course it all takes time.

 

However, contrary to a few posters on here and despite Klopp not really having the tools to do the job, despite a shock defeat to Wolves, he's got to a semi final and sits in the top four.  I don't think he's doing bad at all.  Injuries to key players when you are already carrying an under strength squad doesn't help either.  Reality is, this managers done well so far with what he's got, bar a few tactical mistakes. (Seem to remember him playing two holding bids at Anfield against a side that will be fighting relegation, which i found very strange)

 

Reds should trust the manager and turn their concerns towards their owners because they need to stump up some serious cash.  A Matip doesn't turn up every window!

Yeah thats the general feeling also amongst genuine and knowledgable reds that I know off, all seem to be firmly behind the manager and see the progress made in a short space of time.  

Im personally still a bit on the fence with FSG, they have done some good things early on, the new stand shows real progress off the pitch and they seem to have sorted out the whole transfer committee thing. Of course never expected spending to compete with City, Chelsea or Manu but there needs to be a real commitment from them this summer but will it all depend on IF we get into a CL spot.

It was good to see us come out fighting again after a bad run of games at home, kept at it right to the end.We still look very nervy at the back and again a bit slow on the attack. Chelsea are clearly a good side, well organised with quality players, they showed their coolness and experienced when under pressure - both sides had chances but very relieved our keeper saved the pen !

Impressed again with Gini, getting in the box again from deep and getting on the score sheet.

Henderson ran his socks off, looked knackered at the end, looks to be over his heel injury/niggle and played with a bit more freedom in his passing and movement, starting to look like a captain ! As the deeper midfielder he covered well for two very nervy centre backs and kept our rhythm going, just wish he was a bit stronger or naturally better in the tackle (darker arts) when needed.

Bobby, fluffed his lines again !!  had one clear easy chance at goal... but love his workmate, pressure and his quality on the ball is excellent in the build up, maybe starting to look tired and low on confidence in front of goal. 

Anyway with Coutinho slowly find his match fitness and now Mane is back, I sense or hope...we may have a good run into the end of the season with only the league competition to focus on.

On 1/28/2017 at 9:29 PM, Rc2702 said:

3 more results like this and it's all over for Klopp and no amount of cash can turn this round and with his "pedigree" he should have the nous but this feels like a continuation of his last season in Germany. If his high pressure style has flaws with a thin squad then I am sorry but it smacks of bad planning. Can't wait for the jan market to end? Smell the coffee and focus on your job not the bloody press and stop facking smiling.

Your a clown !

5 hours ago, StevieH said:

sturridge looks finished by the way. he can't run.

Its all gone tits up !

Sturridge is a shadow of himself, He looks in part to be holding back when it involves anything more than a jog, maybe mentally he's done, doesn't seem to trust his body which is not a good sign at this level. Also he keeps pulling out of light tackles or challenges in the air.  Used to be great at playing on the shoulder of defenders, now he only shows when its into feet coming deep.  Right now he's the absolute opposite to Bobby !!   

We desperately need 2-3 more bodies in this squad, ideally if one or two are experienced and not kids, the lack of squad rotation is now showing. 

Don't like the combo of Hendo and Can together, it was working much better when it was Hendo and Gini (of course with Lallana back there also). 

Surprised we have not seen young Ojo being given a go out wide again, we need some pace and directness while Mane is away.

Great result !

Bring on 2017

On 12/27/2016 at 8:26 PM, StevieH said:

silly boy firmino. very silly boy. obviously had such an expensive christmas that on his meagre wages he couldn't afford a taxi.

Silly indeed !

Good win against Stoke, weathered a tough 20 mins against their long, direct football but as we have seen all season we look confident we can score for fun once we decide to go up a gear or two. 

On 12/15/2016 at 7:22 PM, StevieH said:

well that was more bloody like it wasn't it? outstanding away performance, lallana was superb, didn't miss matip and klavan played well, and thought mignolet rose to the challenge, fair play to him. and klopp has managed the goalkeeper issue very well i think, including putting the busy c*nt neville brothers back in their box.

 

the one-touch football for the second goal was a joy to watch, brilliant stuff.

Yeah good second half that.

Goalkeeper situation, a few posts back I presumed he wouldn't drop Karius as thats a big call. Of course In true Klopp style, he just drops him and makes out its just another day... Migs did well also.

We look like we got back some fluency in out attack (movement, one touch passing) and Origi can't stop scoring.

Bring on the Bitters !

Bloody frustrating isn't it, I expected a better reaction at home after the Bournemouth mess. We played some fluid attacking football at times but we just seems to run out of attacking ideas and steam when teams sit back against us. We also can't control a game to save our lives when its needed especially when we go ahead.  We need to be more clinical and finish chances, right now we look to have two gears only, either full out attack or full out scrambling back... against any sort of a counter, we look naive at times, not sure that will get fixed this season !

Karius has made mistakes in two games in a row, but surely it would be madness to drop him right now? Not sure how it will help to bring in Migs as he also will make his 'inevitbale' blunder creating even grater pressure for the team.

Buying and developing these younger players was always going to result in issues, but watching how Klopp has got us playing at times, has brought reason for optimism, the best is yet too come, perhaps we have all gotten too carried away with how we were scoring for fun which has covered over the cracks. Perhaps we are seeing the growing pains of the development of a young squad made worse by a couple of key injuries and a thin squad.

We've also look unbalanced in our attack the last few games. Firminho needs to be central were he does his best work, not on the left, but its a conundrum with Coutinho out and also Sturridge missing in action. 

Also we don't have that one natural defensive midfielder in the squad that might help in times like this (forgetting Lucas), Henderson has been tasked with the role and its not natural to him. I can't help but think these Dahoud rumours are true and we will be in again for him in the window or a similar player, a controlling defensive midfielder to balance between our attacking play. 

Anyway games will be coming thick and fast, so will be interesting to see if we can get back to our form in time.

Controlled the game, defended well, thought Southampton set up well for a draw/counter. 

Obviously disappointed we couldn't get three points, Firmino should of scored that chance !!  

Surprised Klopp kept Couthinho and Mane on as long as he did, both looked tired and equally surprised he didn't bring on Sturridge with Origi sooner. Certainly missed Lallana's energy, creativity in our midfield. 

Joel Matip what a buy, looks like a absolute steal at this rate!

On 11/14/2016 at 8:20 PM, BangrakBob said:

Yes i read his 10M clause is activated in the summer. 

 

What about a winger, is Gini going to slot in for Mane, not sure he is that quick?

 

Looking forward to seeing Joey Gomez line up next Matip, that could be a great partnership.

Yeah Bob agree we need another wide option. I can see the need for a couple more bodies in midelfield / attack because at the pace we have been playing and going about games, we might need some heavy rotation come end of the year.

Not sure if any truth in Sturridge wanting out? However we would start to look a bit light with Ings out also.

Yes nice to hear Joe is back, took part in a behind the doors game which is encouraging, guess it might be a while yet before we see him in the league (maybe cup games?) hoping he comes good.  Lucas stepped in well to cover CB and we also have Klavan.

A lot of talk we are going back in for Mahmoud Dahoud in the Jan window ?

He would complement our midfield nicely and add more options, he's still a work in progress but he's one of those that just makes it all look so easy. The way he takes the ball, has that awareness of whats around him and then that smooth passing range, short / long.

Thanks again Joe, this helps a lot !

Thanks Joe, this is what I had hoped so thats sounds good. So will see if I just need to change reason for 'extension' and show 400k which is fine. I will get the wife to call immigration on Monday to double check.

Bank statement - any idea if I need show the date of the updated statement was a day or two before submit my application, reason is I did one about 2 weeks back perhaps a bit premature.   

Thanks again

Hi all, tried to search on the forums but wasn't 100% sure of I am understanding correctly. I may of misunderstood the terminology and visa types, so apologies in advance if the subject has already been covered.

I have held a Non-B visa for a number of years now (business owner) and done the annual extension of stay (12 months) each year at immigration.  I have not really had any issues with this type of visa or extension of stay (lots of paper work obviously) and its been convenient as I don't have to leave the country if I don't need to. In cases we go on holiday overseas then I just get a 're-entry' issued.

My question or need clarification on is:

In the next 3 weeks before my current 12 month extension of stay expires for my (Non-B) so I wish to switch to a Marriage Visa given I am recently married and its just seem to make more sense and perhaps less paperwork each year...Which I understand is called a Non-O visa  for Marriage ? So did I understand that means changing from a Non-B to a Non-O  or is it just changing the extension of stay ?

Also would I have to leave the country for this or just renew as normal at immigration i.e as I have done in the past with my Non-B extension of stay. 

Note my Non-B and extension of stay was issued in Surrathani the past few years but I have moved to Bangkok and living their with my wife so the Extension of stay or visa will be issued from Bangkok.

Thanks for any clarification or helpful guidance.

Another good win, Derby 0-3 Liverpool. 

Only watched highlights of this one. It looked like we were in second gear for most of the game but just enough to be in control and the Brazilians turned it on when needed. Good to see we didn't have any panic moments, we usually make a it hard for ourselves in these games.

Quite a few of the squad who have not featured for a while got some needed game time (Can, Origi, Ings, Karius, Klavan) and even Grujic got his first start. 

I would of took a draw before the game being away from home against a good side, but can't help feeling we dropped 2 points today.

Awful decisions all day by the Ref...

Lots of positives going forward very fluid and look very dangerous on the break, also thought Matip made a difference at the back and looks a proper Defender. 

Looked like we thought hey we just need to turn up today and pass it about a after all , its only Burnley, we just scored 4 against Arsenal, easy peasy... well absolutely abysmal start in every sense of the word, there are no easy games. I was still hopeful we might have come out second half and put in some effort, intensity and have more guile or creativity about us instead of playing right into Burnley's hands, Burnley won't get an easier opponent than us this season ! 

Most gutless, non committed performance I've seen in an age, lets hope today is just an early blip and a wake up call for some of the new signings and players who should know better (Lallana, Sturrduge, Henderson, Lovren)

Good game Burnley, well deserved !

And breathe ! 

haha its going to a mad season.

Sadio Mane: Southampton striker set for Liverpool medical after £34m fee agreed

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36636488

Tough to watch the second half

Looked like we all but collapsed to be honest after they equalised... Fair play to them they turned up second half and tactically they had a good plan to play long which was a good way around our pressing and that looked to frustrate us. They also looked a much more physical side than I expected !

Stupid individual mistakes in defence cost us yet again but along with a bit of misfortune at key moments. I thought the Ref was awful (how many handballs did he miss?) I haven't had chance to watch the highlights but one looked a stone wall penalty at first viewing.

Oh well, really frustrating given they way we got to the final with some incredible performances along the way - i thought we would get this one.

The younger lads such as Emre Can will hopefully learn from the loss and with any luck will get to a few more finals in the coming seasons. Seems we are getting our transfer business done early and if we can keep the momentum and belief that Klopp has clearly injected into the club we will hopefully have a good season.