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The more the 'old money establishment party' fight their 'new money' apposition with thinly veiled brute force, they more they will loose support of the general population. Thaksins party didn't come to power because of low intelligence. They know they are becoming the martyr. The Thai elete establishment is trapped in a time warp -thinking they can still ''educate'' the general population to support them. But he cats out of the bag... its a giant cat with an un questioning loyalty to the majority of people.... The intercat

No wonder the military is presently so blase

Not even if his party wins 90 percent of votes at the next election? (2015)

Dear Thai Prime minister elect,

Congratulations on your landslide win. I'm sure you have lots to do in your new job. May I remind you that it can all amount to nothing if force is used against your country.

I don't think you need to worry about any other country invading-- but I do hope you have your own employees under control . For example if 1000 gold shirts sat in front of the Thai electricity generator and stopped workers operating it- until you stepped down from your position, would your employees (army) protect the protesters so that they could stay and keep Thailand in the dark with now power? or would they (army) follow your orders an allow power to be restored to Thailand? (please correct me if I'm wrong-- is the Thai army not the servant of the Thai Government)

Not if Thaksin resumes control it isn't!!!!

Dear Thai Prime minister elect,

Congratulations on your landslide win. I'm sure you have lots to do in your new job. May I remind you that it can all amount to nothing if force is used against your country.

I don't think you need to worry about any other country invading-- but I do hope you have your own employees under control . For example if 1000 gold shirts sat in front of the Thai electricity generator and stopped workers operating it- until you stepped down from your position, would your employees (army) protect the protesters so that they could stay and keep Thailand in the dark with now power? or would they (army) follow your orders an allow power to be restored to Thailand? (please correct me if I'm wrong-- is the Thai army not the servant of the Thai Government)

'Corruption' is the word used in Thailand to smear competition...... In the west its 'sex crimes' Either one is classic mud slinging.

What about the now deceased Prime ministers ''moonlighting at a TV chief'' charges. OMG...such corruption

That's a good Idea!! Sell people land then take there money and take the land back so you can sell it again.!! Why didn't I think of that, Such talent

Would you let YOUR security guard throw you out of your own home--because some one else made him a better offer for it???

I can under stand that you would be a little unhappy with the 'hired help' if that happened to you

Yes right.. Credibility of the police and legal system is important to the Thai economy.

Case in example: Carrefour said they were selling outlets in Thailand Singapore and Malaysia.As it turned out -that was to soften the blow that they were only selling Thailand outlets. That's the worlds second biggest retaler giving it the thumbs down???

On the positive side-- the Thais in general have a friendly and gracious nature (compared to some nationalities) with tourists--this is what will always pull them through

I dont know about Russians, but my Norweegen neighbor is unbelievably inconsiderate with his music at 4 in the morning. I soundproofed the wall so he bought a louder sound system.

So freedom of expression is a no on in Thailand...but why advertise ?

Ok, The UN court awarded the temple and land its on to Cambodia. So Thailand doesen't want Cambodia to pack up its temple and take it to Phnom Penh....very kind

So now Thais would need a passport and visa and clear imigration to go in the temple, and Cambodians would need to clear immigration in Thailand to access the temple??

Legal thinking Thai style.

Well you see ....when the UN awarded the temple to Phnom pen, the meant they should pack it up and take it to Phnom Penh

Oh well...no ones brain can function reasonably in Bangkok heat

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When Cambodia won the last case we have abided by it?

I was unaware a legal ruling had a time limit, or in Thai this is this just until it suits me?

And a legal representation does not have to be bitter, merely a request for clarification.

When will these people ever grow up.

The 1962 judgement ruled on the temple. It specifically didn't rule on the land around it. The Thai's have abided by that ruling (on the temple) and are negotiating terms on the still disputed land. It appears that the Cambodians are spending a lot of time on the disputed land, and even have troops IN the temple, which is against the 2000 MOU signed between Cambodia and Thailand.

Sorry about my ignorance-- but I think only 20 or so of the few hundred co owners attended and voted. How does that effect the vote percentage?

The lot of them should take up sports, and leave the game playing on the sports field. In the internet free information age -running a country must be managed by professionals-the days of back room deals and hidden incompetence are over.

The public are less and less in the dark -and fed spin from only the powers that bee--as is being found in the middle east and with wiki-leaks in the west!!! Every village has internet and people smart enough to use it and spread the word.

Actually My condo unit is in Pattaya-- in a very nice area near the beach. As I said --there are around 50% sold and completed inside--over the five years. That seems 100% better than three other new projects with in a few hundred meters of mine--that have been built nearly as long-- but don't seem to have any residents at all yet!! Maybe the sales rate is better in bangkok--but. there is no way I could live there, because of the air pollution.

Hi Trogers,

The development is very well maintained and managed. I'm not sure that such a big number of unsold units is unusual in Thailand. Building costs are low- and prices are comparatively

high-- enough to make it unnecessary to sell all the units.

1) Date when the building legally became a Condominium Juristic Person I Think around 2005

The developer still owns I think more than 50%.

My un educated view is that the developer could say that they need a bigger contribution from co owners so that they dont have to flood the market with cheep units --thus reducing the value of existing co owners units and also reducing the quality of life of existing residents.

Sorry to say this, but it is already a failed development, with >50% unsold for over 5 years.

The only thing that insufficient funds leading to poor maintenance can do is to depreciate all units faster. My guess will be that prices of units will fall below the value of their share of land within the next decade.

Thanks to all your your valuable input. Particularly for advice that the 'sinking fund'' can not be used for day to day expenses. I still would like to know if the developer has to contribute equally to a 'sinking fund' (for his unsold units)

Here are the answers to questions asked

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Perhaps you could supply more specific data

1) Date when the building legally became a Condominium Juristic Person I Think around 2005

2) Do you have AGM,s YES anually at the condo. There were two this year as 'there wasn'tenough attending the first meeting to vote'

3) Is a money in /money out statement produced every month Statement produced annually

4) Do you have an effective committee.A committee can only be legal if it is registered at the local (to you) Land Office YES all looks very official

5) Total chargeable meters about 40,000 sq meters

6) Baht /meter /month presently about 8 Baht per sq meter per month ( proposed increase to 17 Bt owner residents and 5 Bt developer)

7) Do you pay your monthly /annual bills to a Company Ltd or a Condominium Juristic Person Bills paid annually to Juristic person

8) In spite of all do you sense that the co -owners in the main are 'Happy Customers' yes very happy, but of course they don't like to be seen to be treated illegally. If the law is clear that developers pay equally, they feel it should stand.The developer still owns I think more than 50%. So owner/residents know their vote can not compete.

My un educated view is that the developer could say that they need a bigger contribution from co owners so that they dont have to flood the market with cheep units --thus reducing the value of existing co owners units and also reducing the quality of life of existing residents. They may feel this would be 'loss of face '' and prefer to bully their way through (it may even be necessary) The problem may be that they may not know when to stop bullying

Our condo charged 6,000 bht a unit annual fee to date. There are about half unsold units in the complex. I believe under Thai law the developer has to contribute at the same rate for un-slold units.??

At the last meeting much to the attendees distress, the developer voted a change to the rules to allow him to pay at about a third of the rate that owners will pay. The developer said they opted to do that instead of a 'sinking fund' to make up the shortfall of expenses.

Their lawyer said the owners were welcome to sue if they disagreed with the change

Any one have experience with this?

The access control door is simply achieved with a 7,000 Baht fingerprint reader and key pad at the door. This connects to your door lock and internet hub. You can download attendance records, add and remove user pin numbers from any internet connection. Now you can monitor and control access to your property when on the move.

I Paid the old Dutch guy in Pattaya Tai 60,000 Baht to do the jobs last year, but still waiting-- and takeing him to Pattaya provintial court for a decision on a refund in April

I was charged 60,000 Baht by an old Dutch expat in Pattaya for a three point security system and an access control door, none of which works!!!.

I recently visited Shanghai and saw a system for USD107 that has smoke and motion detectors and doesn't need a landline to dial out. It sends a SMS or voice message to any phone in that event. They also have a video alarm system for USD180 that will send pics on the 3G phone system (when we finally get it in Thai) in the event of intrusion. You can also talk to the intruder and tell them u have their pic and they better go.

PM me for contact details if you need to order one!!!

As long as tourists pay for it they will keep doing it.

Mainly Russians in Koh Larn. They probably don't notice

Had a fantastic day on Koh larn island but noticed the long boats using old motors spewing black polution into the clear air (people go for the clean water and air).Then had a day in China town and a lot of Tuk tuks spewed just as much black smoke.

Come on guys thats an extreme example of air pollution. Bad enough the fools that still insist on driving private cars...... but pouring black smoke into every ones lungs??? ...thats so ''yesterday''

I took my ($2000) 4 ply silk Lounge covers to EXPRESS on Nakula road 200 meters on left from the Dolphon Roundabout. I gave them one cover to try first, it came back fine. Then I gave them an IDENTICAL three more, but they came back totally washed out with four holes in each cover!. I was only charged half price though, very nice girls, they thought the holy ones must have got some sun or ''something''

Seems I can only be sure of one thing- there will be problems

What the??? Is this forum dead !?!.... I posted for a meeting of people investing in the SET a year ago now and not a comment yet.

Anyway the SET trading is now going well for me, and I've hooked up to internet trade on London, American and European exchanges too. If any one wants the first hand info --and how to do,... comment here, or PM,

Maybe one day we will have our coffee and internet traders meet up session in Pattaya or Bangkok

I was charged 60,000 Baht by an old Dutch expat in Pattaya for a three point security system and an access control door, none of which works!!!.

I recently visited Shanghai and saw a system for USD107 that has smoke and motion detectors and doesn't need a landline to dial out. It sends a SMS or voice message to any phone in that event. They also have a video alarm system for USD180 that will send pics on the 3G phone system (when we finally get it in Thai) in the event of intrusion. You can also talk to the intruder and tell them u have their pic and they better go.

PM me for contact details if you need to order one!!!