regfrancis

Trillions in damage to the economy and credibility of the country... for what??

The same elected government is still there-- powerless to govern-- nothings changed.

Every one knows the situation, and expect the same disruptions to continue. Tourists don't want to come here and be stranded. Business don't have confidence to expand and employ. The result being a visous circle of more poverty and social unrest. And voters will see who has caused it.

The Bangkok elite who promote the ''democratic'' party should make it well known that in future they will play fair: They have to forget the coups, and holding the day to day operation of the country to ransom.

If they want to retain power-- Why can't they honestly win over the poor countryside voters? It can't be that hard.

Name of thread:

THAILAND CONTINUES TO BE HELD TO RANSOM BY LOSING PARTY'S DISRUPTIONS

Wow! How fast the skys clear afte a week without Av-gas

Now we just need to get the cars off the streets!!!

Tiny bit worried. The patients are running the assylum.

Seems like it!!!

I have to say I find it quite amusing that the best the government can come up with after a week of this is a rival rally!

So their only "solution" is to do something which is a weak attempt to further polarize the country!

Bravo!

If The people don't peacefully show there support for the government, it would look like they weren't supported.

The PAD aren't holding ''a ralley'' (their holding the airport and govermnent buildings to ransom)

Don't know about subsities Peter, but Air Asia is useing KL as a hub. Airlines were worried about Thailands stability after the coup in 2006. (Thai's have totally killed their credability now)

Air asia had flights KL to London available to book last week for US$200. Air Asia's budget set up seems to be the winner now (for all world connections to SE Asia-except Japan)

I just walked by there and thought it said closing also. But I believe it says closing at 11 PM each day starting December 1. Not a big change as it is not open very late anyway.

I was just there, didn't see a sign but was an announcment about opening times, the English was so bad didnt make any sense. Will have to remember who started this thread and not take any notice of them again!!!

This sounds more related to the global economic meltdown rather than the current Thai political crisis.

I'm off to stock up now. I'd say the french bosses have seen the powerless police here and see riots coming!

Financially they shot them selves in the foot with the millitary coupe-- now they are finishing off the job.

These countrys are emerging nations because they never emerge.

I believe The X prime minister was prosercuted for useing a cooking show as a vehilce to communicate with his voters, and getting paid to boot.

Now: will the protesters- that cost the country trillions, by their airport closure (also being paid -I read on this forum) --be prosercuted as well??

No need for forigners to incite a riot, the natives are doing a pretty good job.

Maybe Thais are the worlds worst spoil spoits...... I have read news stories of Thai guys shooting the winner of a pool game here in my city!!

Just as well casinos are banned here, the place would be in a constant war zone.

Same is the case with losers of the country's national ellections

The same as any war: The rich and powerfull use the poor and ignorent to empower them selves.

Once the dust settles and everyone see what has happened there will be some red faces.

If the police chief can be sacked for not doing as ordered, why not the army chief?? Governments are surposed to govern -not the staff

FF

DW TV (Germany's world wide service) Just summed up the problem fairly -- in there main news story aired a minute ago.

They stated what each side wants, who they are and how they are attempting to achieve their aims.

Any way --this will soon filter down to the poor ''cannon fodder'' on the streets. Hopefully before they cost them selves too much.

It's unclear how people can be misled in this day of mass communications.

I keep reading about little old ladies protesting. Do they not understand the financial ramifications that will result from their acts? I don't understand. I respect this country and it's culture, but this is almost akin to when there was rioting in Watts. The people living there destroyed their own property, devastating businesses. They only hurt themselves.

Do they not get it?

Thai style cannon fodder: old retired people and their grandkids...there for free massage soupe and a few baht too!! woopee!!

Thai style cannon fodder: Old unemployed people and their grand kids.....nice

What another coup and ellection? That will be the fourth ellection in the last few years.

The military keep forgetting to change the constituton --so that only PAD supporter's votes are counted.

That will fix the problem

For the info of those who might not know the PM lives in Chaing Mai. In Green Valley estate with his wife Taksins sister.

So the prime minister is sacked because he uses a cooking show to interact and show a human face to his supporters.---and yet any one can walk into surposedly secure internatioal airport controal centers and attempt to take controal---- without authorities doing anything?????

Do the natives know how ridicules they look??

I was robbed last night on Pattaya second road---by the same gang of young girls I think.

I put it down to very valuable experience. They got about 400 baht, and left me 100 so I could pay my fair, other wise they would have got sprung, very clever indead!!!

The place seems to be becoming very dangerous lately

I read about them in the local rag last week and saw them in action tonight.

A gang of young girls or women all get on at once. One sits close and others distract the victom while the one beside him overlaps a big bag over him and picks his pockets. Look out..they're good at it!!

We all thow the Thai phone system is frustratingly bad but this takes the Cake:

I bought a condo in Jomtien to retire in and keep track of investments and contacts on the internet. I had the Max net phone and internet ''inde'' connected when the new building first had the phone connected lasy year.

There is no such thing as Max net phone. You either have a TT&T phone line or a TOT phone line

Its a TT&T maxnet internet package incloding VOIP ''phone''

The German guy I bought the empty shell condo from- had put his name down to have the service connected when available.

After I moved in to the condo for a few months they connected the service. I signed for it and put my name on the form as the customer and owner of the condo.

Signing for the phone installation is different than signing at the TT&T or TOT phone office for the phone service

I only accepted the NEW service after crossing out the old name and changing it to mine on the installation acceptance

I used the service for nearly two years -and then the internet stopped working last week.

Did the phone service stop working also ? THE VOIP STILL WORKED..BADLY

I Phoned TT& T, who said the old owner had paid my final months bill and canceled the service '' as I was moveing away''

TT&T will only cancel service if the "owner" comes into the office with a copy of their passport and a bill to request the cancellation

STRANGE THE OLD OWWNER WOULD BOTHER

I haven't seen the old owner for almost two years since the deal was finalized to buy the condo from him.

Maybe the old owner has problems and is trying to pull some stunt.

This is the part that doesn't make sense at all

ABSOLUTELY!!!

But that doesen't explain why after I asked TT & T they refused to re connect the service or even provide a new service for me. I have been without the service almost a week now.

Until you resolve the question of who exactly provides the phone line (TT&T or TOT) you will never resolve this problem

ITS A TT&T LINE WITH MAXNET INTERNET WITH THE VOIP '' phone""

This could happen to any one without any fault of there own ---besides choosing Thailand as a home!!!

This whole saga does not make any sense and the follow up messages from the OP make even less sense. When he talks about I had the new type of service where you don't actually get a phone line of your own. They share one phone line to 20 rooms. It's a VOIP voice over internet protocal service. It sounds like the condo is using a PBX system in lieu of a direct dial individual and how in the world he is getting internet over such a phone line is a real mystery to me. I have heard of True offering Internet service using an internal phone system at Center Condo but not TOT or TT&T.

THE MAXNET INTERNET PACKAGE USES EITHER 10 OR 20 SERVICES TO ONE PHONE LINE

When all the dust settles I am going to bet the problem is going to revolve around the TT&T or TOT phone line and the absence of a direct dial phone line. I would bet that he has been paying his condo for his phone service and the condo has been paying either TT&T or TOT and someone finally figured that his internet is not legitimate.

SHAREING OF LINES IS SET UP BY THE TELCO NOT an old PABX

It's funny, if they are out of ports for internet(shared line internet ports) I wonder why my VOIP phone is still connected, and I can make and receive calls on this canceled Maxnet service???

Once again my guess is because you are using the condo phone system, which is independent of TT&T or TOT.

I Paid the account direct to MAXNET TT&T ..The account was mailed with my name on it

For the OP a few definitions.

TOT= Telephone Organization of Thailand. The in country phone company of Thailand

TT&T= A "sister" telephone company that has a "concession" from TOT to operate fixed lines up country and to operate residential gateways in large cities using TOT lines and billing infrastructure.

CAT= Communication Authority of Thailand. Operates all the International gateways for both voice and data out of Thailand (the choke point for international Internet in Thailand) Also offers their own Internet packages.

Maxnet= The brand of Internet service offered by TT&T

Indy= A particular package of Internet service offered by TT&T

I for one will be really interested in what the lawyer has to say since I have never heard of anyone using a lawyer in Thailand for a consumer complaint.

OK, heres the update:

TT&T gave me a new service and a new account. It took two weeks and 50 calls to their office and call center to make it finally work..... after I paid the deposit and made the new deal.

What a big long drawn out drama over NOTHING, If thats how things are done here ....It would make any one with half a brain give Thailand the flick alltogether!!!

Many Thanks to the forum contributors for your help

All very simple and streight foward----The military takes power, and wars will of course increase, after all what is the mititary for??? no wars no military.

This is just a pretty blatant way to promote nationalism and break the will of the PAD.

Spot on, this is a show to change the will of the Thai people, not unlike what the American government did with 9/11. PM, and the Thaksin cabal are desperate.

Had ''Blue lite'' lazer whitening done once each year in Pattaya, seems hardly worth the pane and expence. A friend said I will need veneers after a few years after blue light whitening. Any one know about the side affects of ''Blue light'' process?''