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3 hours ago, Redoubt said:

Terrific information Rick.  I will be moving to Tailand from Florida, USA, during January 2020; and plan on residing in the Isaan Region.  I hope to open a Thailand Bank Savings Account prior to arrival if possible.  I also do hope to thereafter have one of my government (US) pensions deposited monthly into that account.  It shall exceed the 65,000 Baht requirement for monthly income.  I will most probably arrive in Thailand under a NON OA Retirement Visa.  Can you please kindly let me know the answers to some naive questions I have, as I truly am a pilgrim:  How many consecutive months of my account receiving these monthly deposits will probably be required before I can successfully apply for a O-A Retirement Visa?; At the time of applying for that desired appropriate visa in Thailand, how much money must be, or is required to still remain within the bank account?; Is there anything else my particular plans may require per your experience sir?  Thank you Rick for any assistance you may be able to render.  Sincerely, Robin

First of all, if you get a Non O-A (multiple entry) in the US you will be covered for up to two years--providing you exit and re-enter Thailand just prior to the expiration of the visa.  

Second, you cannot apply for a Non O-A inside of Thailand. Non Immigrant O-A visas are only obtained in your home country e.g. Thai Consulate, Washington, D.C.  However, what you will be doing here is applying for an "Extension of Stay" which will require 12 monthly deposits of 65,000 Baht or more. Then again, you'll also have the option of placing 800,000 Baht in your Thai bank account which will serve the same purpose--there are some additional requirements, but as you'll arrive on a Non Imm. O-A, no need to sweat the details on that just now. You'll have more than enough time to determine if you want to go that route.

5 hours ago, wgdanson said:

I totally agree and have changed my method....800k in a Foreign Currency Account so the exchange rate does not matter.

I'm not exactly sure why you think the exchange rate does not matter.  When you go to do your extension, the Immigrations Officer will take whatever amount you have on hand and convert it into Baht.  I can only guess that you have placed waaay more than the equivalent of 800k in that account so the rate flotation doesn't bite you in the ass.

4 hours ago, Essex Reject said:

Haha, yes I think so. It was one main reason why I signed up with them. And as I said in my initial post all down payments are only 10% so I would hardly be the next jumper if I only lost that. Thanks for your input, appreciated.

Ok, so if you don't mind my asking, how much was the total cost of the property? 

48 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:

Yes, we live adjacent to the site. They've cleared the old buildings off, erected the show room and had started civil earthwork works for the foundations.

Oh, so it's the old "let's act like we're building something" trick.  Works every time!

You don't have to register your marriage in the US either.  A marriage in Thailand is recognized in the US.

On 7/29/2019 at 9:15 AM, SantiSuk said:

I was not asked to prove duration of deposit at my last 90 day report in Apr-19 either

I sure you already know this--and are just making conversation--but you did your extension way before the rule was release...that they were going to require keeping 800k for 3 months after and 400k virtually forever.

On 7/30/2019 at 12:29 PM, khastan said:

You are all lucky! My UK pension has gone down from over 34000 baht before brexit to now today 26000 baht and from April 6th next year if the exchange rate continues to fall I will be lucky to get 17000 baht a month.

So what are you living off...savings, investment/rental income--I'm guessing you've got money in a Thai bank to secure your annual extensions...

2 hours ago, moontang said:

I could have said, Royal Thai Embassy in Washington DC to make you and your partner happy, but that would have been incorrect, as Consular Services is on the other side of town, in Kalorama, and it could really ruin your day if you went to the wrong place. 

Well just so you know, I just happen to have a Non Immigrant O-A from the Thai Consulate there, and I never set foot in the place.  Did it all from the comfort of my home city in Florida through the mail.  My comment was all about giving others a clue where the place was instead of playing the "I know something you don't know" game....  Which everybody seems to love to do on these forum pages.

4 hours ago, Emdog said:

Maybe this will help? " In 1983 the Social Security Act was amended (P.L. 98-21) section 340 to include an additional provision regarding the payment of Social Security benefits to aliens outside the U.S. Section 202(t)(11) of the Social Security Act requires that certain non-U.S. citizen dependent and survivor beneficiaries who are first eligible for Social Security Benefits after December 1984, must have resided in the U.S. for at least 5 years as the spouse, widow/widower, child, or parent of the NH, in order to receive U.S. benefits while outside the U.S.. See RS 02610.030 - 5 Year Residency Requirements for Spouses, Natural Child, Adopted Child, and a Parent " (Emphasis mine)

For the record, I didn't need the help, It was the other guy I was referring to that needed to do some research.  My Thai wife is a US citizen and has spent about 25 years with me living and working there before we re-located back here to Thailand.

13 minutes ago, moontang said:

If you don't know where it is, then it obviously doesn't apply to you.  How many thousand times has Hull been mentioned on TVF.?

I'm just talking, in general. And just because somebody else does it wrong doesn't mean you have to also.  By the way, I haven't a clue where Hull is, but without doing a search, I'm guessing it's in the UK.  Many folks here have trouble writing a complete sentence or thought... 

20 hours ago, moontang said:

I would start the process over again, and you would have 2 years for your currency to come back...meaning obtain new OA in home country, but of course the requirements are different everywhere.  I would go to Kalorama or LA, if I were in those jurisdictions.

Nobody know where Kalorama is...why didn't you just say Thai Consulate, Washington, D.C. ?

3 hours ago, Emdog said:

Puts you ahead of USA. My Thai wife will get nothing from my Social Security when I die. If we lived in USA for 9 yrs (I think) she could be eligible, Not worth the grief IMO of living there

You might want to check on that with the SSA.  Me and my Thai wife were physically in a Social Security office in the USA in January of this year as I was getting my Medicare Card.  My wife will get my Social Security payment when I die.  Now granted, my wife has lived in the US, but I don't remember that being a requirement--that said, it wouldn't hurt to follow up...I will take another look-see myself.

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7 minutes ago, sameasb4 said:

complete BS and more conjecture, here 11 years there records standards are atrocious i know because my address is never recorded accurately even the basic stuff unless you are on the radar  

It is not complete BS and neither conjecture--I think you should ask around. They do in fact keep records of your previous applications.  I'm not arguing for accuracy, the accuracy is whatever you put on your forms. This has nothing to do with their accuracy in transcribing said forms into their computers...   

You better ask somebody!

4 hours ago, TheThai said:

How would immigration know that your stamp from the previous year was not gotten by using the 65k a month income method, and that for this extension you decided to use the 800k method.

Because they keep copies of every extension you've ever filed...

6 minutes ago, sumrit said:

I assume they would be referring to the PDF we all get a link to in the 'transfer sent' confirmation email. That contains all the relevant information.

Ok, thanks for that...for a moment, I thought you were talking about some other document I wasn't aware of.  Still, good info for others.

1 hour ago, a977 said:

I to have the same problem with TransferWise so Tuesday I contacted their Australian office only to be told by the operator she was in Florida USA so after 50 mins of BullSh##ing each other I got nowhere. Wednesday contacted TransferWise via email and received a reply stating that they were having difficulties with their new banking partner (Kasikorn) and that she too would put a flag on my account to state money must go direct to Bangkok Bank.

In the process of talking to Florida I did learn that there is a summary page on your account that could be useful in discussions with Thai Immigration in that it shows exactly where the funds originated from and where they went, so here's hoping. Bloody Immigration I wish they would get their shit together.

Ok so what did you learn about how to obtain this summary page?

By the way, which embassy (country) affidavit did you use?

15 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Nobody wants to haul heavy luggage through a normal station. Airport links are for .. linking airports. 

No one has to haul any heavy luggage anywhere.  Anyone with just a moment of thought will travel light--carry only what you need--like pilots and attendants.  Myself, anything above and beyond a carry-on, I put in some sort of delivery service or just purchase as necessary.  And yes I know, everyone might not want to do this.  And by the way, Thailand only has 1/4 of a so-called Airport Link...from Swampy to downtown.

1 minute ago, Jip99 said:

 

The point is........ I think you are barking up the wrong tree trying to get K Bank to 'certify' (that is what immigration want) an incoming payment that has not been received by them from overseas. Bank to bank they could justifiably do it..... through TW I doubt it.

 

I am well aware of banking audit trails - I spent 31 years with them. Thai immigration do not giving a flying fart about audit trails, all they want is evidence - what they determine to be evidence - not anyone else.

My god man, have you not been reading the whole thread where an individual got K Bank to provide him with proof of a transfer so that BBL could print him a letter to use at immigrations  saying "yes" the transfer (even though coded as SMART) received through K Bank is in fact international.

Or, did you just jump in halfway through the thread and missed that part?  Thirty-one years means nothing if you don't read and comprehend what been said...

2 minutes ago, BertM said:

Some Immigration offices may not even accept all of those separate forms. I wouldn't want to make 12 monthly TW transfers and then go to the banks asling and begging for supporting documents, then only to show up at immigration and be told that those are not acceptable. Then, you're screwed and have to start over.

You missed the point that no one should be intending to show up at immigrations with 12 different forms.  The TW documents should be used get the reference numbers of said transfers so that a bank (be it TMB Kasikorn, or Bangkok Bank) can provide you with a letter that shows your transfers and verifies that they originated--through TransferWise--from an overseas location. 

On 7/18/2019 at 12:40 PM, Just Looking said:

So it appears your statement:

( If not you have to prove the 65k baht is going into a Thai bank from abroad to apply.)

is incorrect. 

What you're missing is that you must prove the transfers using a Thai bank account and a letter from said Thai bank. Statements and or letters are not accepted from your UK (or any foreign bank for that matter) account.  I know you're new here, you just need to spend a little more time asking questions and doing some research...