Pink Mist

Interesting disscussion guys, but please remember Governments only do what they thing the people want and this gets them votes, to many problems of illegal entries and that fact once they are on Australian soil they can demand to be protected with Australia legal representation at the tax payers cost has made the average Joe Blow in the street get upset.

The circumstances always out way any thing else, the company I work for send people from all over the world into Australia every week, We put up a bond and have to gaurantee a return ticket, never had a problem in the 6 yrs I have been with them

Now take a thai girl, chinese or what ever, who can speak little or no english, has no real financial ties in her home country, and worse of all has a single guy in Australia,

Alarm bells start ringing

The message Australia is sending is there is no quick easy fix to your thai problems but if your serious just wait in the line, there is an end it just might take some time

And guys if you serious marry her, it helps you jump up the line only if you can prove you can support her and not put her on the pension line up.

Interesting fact: 45% of Asian young ladies who meet and marry Australia men in their later years, will walk out on him within the 1st 12 months and demand the lot, plus support from the government

and you though she loved you for your wisdom

I think there are a couple of issues here, sure the goverment acts on votors sentiments, but my point was the Embassy in Bangkok.

If you happen to get on the wrong side of a case worker then it is an uphill battle, I know of one particular caseworker who was disciplined for her attitude ( maybe not disciplined but got an attitude adjustment ), that was after the intervention of an Australian Politician. I dont think seeing any of the Australian staff would help as they could possibly point you toward the Migration Review Tribunal which will cost Aud$1200 and is non refundable.

What else can you say ? someone else said why not marry the girl ? again you will run into an attitude of suspicion and doubt by these Thai Ladies but what else can you do ?

I suggest if you have a strong case to talk to your local member and remember the normal processing time for a spousal visa is meant to be 9 months. It wont happen overnight but it will happen

bronco

I know quite a few people here in Oz who have been thru the Visa process at various times and I can assure you it has become a lot more difficult over the last 10 years.

What is the 'background' of these people who have difficulties.

My wife has an MBA from an Ausie uni,is fluent in English, is financially secure in her own right, owns property in Aussie and LOS,has a good job at a well known mulitnational , had already lived half of her life overseas (at the time residency was granted), is married to an Aussie who has had work permits for the better part of the last 10 years in LOS and works for a different well known multi national.

My point is, that if you have difficulties it is because your "situation" raises alarm bells.

Do you think a member of the Sinawatra family would have "difficulties" ? No, probably not.There is a social threshold.Those below it will usually have hassles and indignity thrown at them.Those above it will be treated properly. Sometimes it is unjust,sometimes the system works in Australia's favor.... but that's just the way it is.

I have probably not explained myself too well. The people to whom I refer have been here for a long while and are mostly citizens and permanent visa situation and they have noticed the changes over the last 10 years.

You are right in what you say, affluent people would have no problem with a visa and the social threshold barrier is very high. The case officers in Bangkok have "guidlines" to follow but some times they can be overzealous.

I dont want to go into specifics here but we had a shall we say a "personality clash " with one person in Bangkok which was later addressed in Australia.

I am no orphan in this situation, but my whole point was and is, that it has become a lot harder for "most" people now.

regards

bronco

I have to disagree.Been there and done that so this is my spiel :

I met my wife(many years ago) when she was in Aussie on a student visa.Work committments brought us both back to LOS and over the last 10 years we have been to and fro between LOS and Aussie.We have been through the entire visa process(tourist, residency) and now she is an Aussie citizen(for 2 years now). We have both never had any problem with the embassy and I found the whole process rather painless.

Maybe the 'background' of the applicant has a lot to do with the dissention.

I know quite a few people here in Oz who have been thru the Visa process at various times and I can assure you it has become a lot more difficult over the last 10 years. I would like to say about embassy experiences but we are currently negotiating another issue and would hate to think of staff reading posts here.

Am I being paranoid ? maybe somebody could tell me.

bronco

I have also had my problems with Aussie immigration in Bangkok(or my wife did). Things are getting worse for people wishing to immigrate or visit Australia. I know the case you are referring to in Melbourne but there have been a lot of others too. ABC news story last week was about the formation of a whole task force of Aussie Federal cops and 1 Immigration officer to be based in Bangkok specifically to check on Thai girs coming into Aust.

The Immigration situation in Australia at the moment seems to have a lot of public support for the howard governments handling of situation, they dont care that he was caught lying about the babies overboard situation.The govnmt reshhuffled last week and put vandstone in as immigration minister and she will be worse than ruddock when it comes to ruthlessness.

There was a very well publicised case last week of two balanese/iraq children who cant get a visa to visit their father who is in Baxter detention centre (in SA).These children lost their Mother in the Bali bombing last year and there is no compassion for their cause, they are considered a risk, they are only babies who want to see their Dad. There are lots more stories like that involving children that I wont go into here as it is probably not the forum.

I will get off my soap box now but the immigration situation here leaves a lot to be desired as far as I can see but howard is gonna pull votes so who knows

bronco