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Just now, Grouse said:

Europe would prefer the USA to leave NATO. The USA is the only country to have called on NATO for assistance post 911. NATO already has two other countries with nuclear deterrents. The latest Trump disastrous decisions is the intermediate range nuclear missiles deal with Russia. 

Nice of you to speak for Europe. Trump has certainly hurt relations there, but without the U.S. NATO would be vulnerable against Russian aggression.

2 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Since 1945, which countries have asked the US to protect them from aggression?

Vietnam? Irak? Libya? Syria? Yemen? ???

Actually many do. Europe (via NATO), Japan, South Korea to name a few. Protection doesn't always involve wars, prevention also matters.

1 hour ago, rskdev said:

2. Forget about the Clinton era and Obama era. That is over. Unless you are like the rest of the mindless herd. Like in Africa you are lost from the main part of the herd.

 

3. Forget about letting more illegals in. Your tax dollar and mine are going for nothing that will come good of it. Build the wall and electrify it.

This post is a good example of moving in the wrong direction.

I'm not sure about long term issues, but the U.S. is heading down a bad path with the Trumpian agenda. I feel like the backlash from it all will right the ship though.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

An absolute slaughter is about to take place on November 6th. The GOP just does not realize how angry, disenfranchised, disappointed, and annoyed millions are, over the absolute fool in the White House. 

Oh they do. That's why they are working so hard to suppress votes and to invent problems like, "the caravan" that are months away from even reaching the U.S. to distract from issues which they have no answer for.

There are nut cases on both sides. That is an obvious truth. That having been said, Trump's stoking of the hatred, the way he gleefully divides people, and demonizes his rivals has a lot to do with this. His inability to accept any responsibility, and his willingness to blame the victims is an obvious display of his inability to lead.

Something tells me they will find evidence of this before they ever hold an election... Whether or not it is based on valid evidence of course will be murky.

It's amazing to see the backtracking by republican congressman who previously said if Trump fired Sessions he'd be impeached. Now we hear Lindsey Graham (what happened to this guy?) speculating that Trump will get rid of him after the mid-terms. We all know what Trump's intentions are here. And the GOP continues to enable him. Vote these spineless congressman out of office.

9 minutes ago, riclag said:

How has he obstructed?How is a man suppose to act before his accusers !

Perjury trap awaiting PT,if he tells his side of the story. Any lawyer with any salt will recommend not sitting with Mueller! 

- He asked Comey to let it go on Flynn (sticking his finger into an investigation of his own administration, and one where he likely ordered Flynn to make the call).

- While he can claim he didn't do that, and it would be his word (the word of a pathological liar) against the word of a boyscout... if he didn't ask him to do it why did he ask everyone else in the meeting to leave before asking the question? That bit of information has been corroberated with other people in the meeting.

- He fired the man investigating him, and admitted on national television it was over "this Russia thing". 

- He then reportedly tried to fire Mueller but was stopped by his own lawyers refusing to give the order.

- He has repeatedly griped about Sessions recusing himself from the investigation. 

- He would have fired Sessions if the GOP didn't sternly warn him against it, and instead he's publicly and privately tried to shame him into stepping down.

- He's used Devin Nunes to try to impeach Rosenstein for the same reason. He needs to get rid of them so he can get rid of Mueller. Nunes was part of his campaign, and we know he had interactions with the white house when he tried to push the conspiracy theories that they fed him as something he discovered and was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. 

- He's publicly gone after the people investigating him out of spite. He's smeared them. He fired McCabe hours before he was going to retire. He removed Brennan's security clearance. He's going after Orr currently on Twitter. 

- He helped concoct the lie about the Tower Meeting then later admitted that it was about getting dirt on Hillary Clinton.

About the "perjury trap". It's only a trap if he is untruthful. If he has nothing to hide, answer the questions honestly and he can clear his name. He's obviously not innocent. He's going to lie to try to cover it up. That isn't a perjury trap, that is a guilty man who is afraid to incriminate himself.

56 minutes ago, riclag said:

Back to the real witch hunt ,which is trying to tie candidate  Trump to a ridiculous collusion to  Russian interference, during the election!

The "ridiculous" collusion where he admits his son, son and law, campaign manager, and others met with Russians for the purposes of getting (illegally obtained) dirt on Hillary Clinton? Or where Michael Cohen is reported to have met with Russian officials, claims he never did, but there is reportedly proof that he did? Let's assume for a minute that this is all "ridiculous", and that when Trump's son said, "I love it!" in a response about the "Russian governments efforts to get Donald Trump elected" that the Trump campaign received nothing from the Russians.  We'll assume that Kushner, Trump Jr, Manafort, and Flynn took all took that meeting (with Trump just upstairs) with good intentions. We'll make that assumption contrary to the fact that he started talking about the dirt around this time, that the push for it happened the same day that he said on public television, "Russia if you are listening...", and the fact that Papadoupalous had a drunken conversation where he spoke about the Russian government having dirt on Hillary Clinton before it was even known that they did. Let's pretend all of that is just some weird coincidence of a hectic campaign that was incompetent but didn't realize what they were doing. That's a stretch but we'll assume it for now.

Even if we assume all of that, you are still left with the following questions:

- Why did Flynn phone Kislyak and tell him not to worry about the Obama sanctions that they'd backtrack them after they took right after they were imposed. Then lie about it?
- Why when the Trump campaign was told that Flynn was possibly compromised by the Russians, and working as an unregistered foreign agent for Turkey did they take weeks before firing him? And only did so after the news hit the public? 

- Why would Trump tell everyone else to leave the room to talk to Comey, and then ask him to let it go on Flynn? 

- Why would Trump fire Comey and admit it was over the Russia investigation on television, if he had nothing to hide?

- What is the link between the Alfa Bank server and Trump server? And why did he then hire the Alfa Bank's lawyer into a senior position his administration? This bank is oligarch controlled.
- Why were there so many Russian connected individuals at the inauguration?

- Why did his administration have amnesia about all of these Russian contacts on their security applications? Kushner for example had to revise his multiple times as different contacts became public?

- Why did Trump leak sensitive intelligence from Israel to Russian officials in their visit to the white house? 

- Why did Trump tell Russian officials on that same white house visit that Comey was fired and shouldn't be a problem any more?

- Why has Trump been publicly trying to shame Sessions into stepping down if it is not about the Russia investigation? It clearly is. Could it be because he realizes it will lead all the way to him?

- Why did they lie about the purpose of the tower meeting?  Trump himself was involved in concocting that lie, originally saying it was about Russian adoptions. They only backtracked after the emails came out where it was impossible to deny as it laid out what it was about and that it was from the Russian government. Then they changed their story to they received no dirt (so only attempted collusion).

- Why would Trump continue to refuse that Russia interfered in the election when everyone else thinks this is a given, and Putin has even admitted that they wanted to help Trump get elected? How could he stand on a podium and take Putin's side over his own intelligence community? And then try to backtrack and say "I said would when I meant wouldn't" after the fact. Then after that again start backtracking and seeming unsure of it? 
- Why did Trump meet all alone with Putin without anyone else? And why does nobody else know what was said in that meeting still today?

- Why won't Trump give an interview to clear his name if he is truly innocent?

- Why have the bulk of the officials at the top of the Russia investigation been removed from office? Why was Brennan's security clearance removed and he threatened to remove those of others in the investigation? He is targeting the people investigating him specifically.

That's without even opening the can of worms that is Devin Nunes.  If Trump is truly innocent of these ridiculous charges, then why has he invested so much time into obstructing the investigation? Because he certainly hasn't acted like an innocent man. He's acted like a guilty person who is doing everything in his power to attack the investigators, to stop the investigation, and to paint himself as a victim. If he were innocent he could have sat down with Mueller when he promised to. Told his side of the story and cleared his name.