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Thank you for reciting the above info. What you posted is entirely correct, and the author of this pre-preprint, as well as the Cleveland Clinic, have indeed rejected and rebutted the anti-vaxer claims being made about the conclusions of the study. As usual, anti-vaxers here and elsewhere presenting misleading versions of what research actually concludes. The OP post tries to extrapolate the preprint study's findings to the vaccine's effectiveness for the general public, when in fact there's no basis for making that kind of claim. One important detail about this study is that it involved exclusively health care workers -- not the general public. Health care workers potential exposure to the flu virus and various other illnesses could well be greater than the public at large, because they're working in a setting where they're regularly in close contact with people who are ill. Fact Check: Cleveland Clinic Study Did NOT 'Reveal' That The 2024/2025 Flu Shot Increases Flu Risk -- Vaccine Ineffective, But Not Cause Of Infections Fact Check Apr 15, 2025 Does a draft paper by scientists at The Cleveland Clinic "reveal" that the 2024/2025 flu shot increased the risk of flu, as social media posts claim? No, that's not true: This study's finding that vaccination was "associated with" a higher risk isn't the same as showing the vaccine is what caused increased risk. The authors of the study found that vaccinated health care workers had a 27% higher incidence of flu than those who were not vaccinated.The researchers said their paper did not identify what factors caused the higher infection rate, only that the shot was relatively ineffective. ... The Cleveland Clinic study collected data on about 40,000 adult health care workers. In its draft form, the paper reports vaccinated health care workers were significantly more likely to catch the flu than the non-vaccinated. The authors' conclusion was that the shot was not very effective against flu. What they did not conclude was what factor specific to the vaccinated portion of the 40,000 made them more likely to get infected. https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2025/04/fact-check-cleveland-clinic-study-did-not-find-flu-shot-increased-risk-of-adult-flu.html The U.S. CDC in February of this year reported on the effectiveness of the 2024-2025 flu vaccine in the general public, based on a sampling of selected U.S. health networks, as follows: Interim Estimates of 2024–2025 Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness — Four Vaccine Effectiveness Networks, United States, October 2024–February 2025 "Among adults, VE [vaccine effectiveness] was 36% and 54% in outpatient settings (two networks) and 41% and 55% against influenza-associated hospitalization (two networks)." [emphasis added] "Among children and adolescents, VE was 32%, 59%, and 60% in outpatient settings (three networks) and 63% and 78% against influenza-associated hospitalization (two networks)." "Influenza vaccination prevents hundreds of thousands of outpatient medical visits, tens of thousands of hospitalizations, and thousands of deaths from influenza every year." https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/74/wr/mm7406a2.htm So the CDC's findings among the general public clearly are at odds with the claims being made about the Cleveland Clinic preprint. Lastly, if folks here read the comments on the preprint posted along with the preprint, you'll find several commenters pointing out what they say are design flaws with how the study was conducted and how it's findings were calculated, arguing that the findings likely aren't supported by legitimate numbers.

Can COVID-19 vaccines cause cancer? Can the vaccines cause cancer to recur or make it more aggressive? There is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines cause cancer, lead to recurrence, or lead to disease progression. Furthermore, COVID-19 vaccines do not change your DNA (i.e., your genetic code). U.S. National Cancer Institute https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-people-with-cancer#:~:text=Can COVID-19,your genetic code). Can COVID-19 vaccines cause cancer or make cancer grow? There is no information that suggests that COVID-19 vaccines cause cancer. There is also no information that suggests these vaccines can make cancer grow or recur (come back). American Cancer Society https://www.cancer.org/cancer/managing-cancer/coronavirus-covid-19-and-cancer/covid-19-vaccines-in-people-with-cancer.html#:~:text=Can COVID-19 vaccines cause cancer or make cancer grow%3F

Another worthless, nonsense post sourced to a well-known anti-vaxer and conspiracy theory and misinformation spreader: "Mark Crispin Miller (born 6 November 1949[2] ) is a professor of media studies at New York University.[3] He has promoted conspiracy theories about U.S. presidential elections, the September 11 attacks and the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting as well as misinformation about COVID-19 and vaccines." ... Anti-vaccination and COVID misinformation Miller has also screened for his students the anti-vaccination film Vaxxed, produced by disgraced[18] former physician Andrew Wakefield (who was struck off the medical register in the UK for scientific misconduct).[10][13] Miller has spread COVID-19 misinformation, including misleading claims about the efficacy of face masks and false claims that COVID-19 vaccines alter recipients' DNA,[9][19] and believes the virus may have been an artificially created bioweapon.[20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Crispin_Miller

Hey, let's call it what it really is!!!

I'm still trying to figure out how, in the heart of Bangkok, they managed to arrest ONE Thai! Surely that must have been a case of mistaken identity, thought she was Vietnamese or Burmese, but turned out to actually be Thai! 😄

" In making the announcement, Mr. Kennedy seems to have reneged on a promise he made to Senator Bill Cassidy, Republican of Louisiana, not to alter the childhood immunization schedule. [emphasis added] ... Mr. Kennedy’s decision upends the standard process for such recommendations, which are made by advisers to the C.D.C. and accepted — or overruled — by the agency’s director. The health secretary is typically not directly involved in these matters, but the C.D.C. does not currently have a permanent director. New York Times https://archive.ph/Aoz36#selection-731.0-731.308 Background re the role of Republican Sen. Cassidy, who's also a physician who played key role in getting Kennedy confirmed by the Senate: Why the 1 senator who can rein in RFK Jr. isn’t calling him out May 14, 2025 ... "After his tough questions in January, Cassidy voted to confirm Kennedy, saying Kennedy had promised to uphold the current vaccine approval and monitoring system. [emphasis added] “I will carefully watch for any effort to wrongfully sow public fear about vaccines,” Cassidy said in a floor speech explaining his vote. Since then, Cassidy has refrained from publicly criticizing the secretary, even as Kennedy has pledged new scrutiny for Covid-19 vaccines, offered lukewarm endorsement of the measles shot during an outbreak and reportedly hired a vaccine skeptic to lead a search for autism’s cause." Politico https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/13/rfk-jr-set-to-face-the-senator-who-grilled-him-00346321

The Health Secretary announced a policy change without informing CDC officials "Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Tuesday said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will no longer recommend Covid-19 shots for "healthy children and healthy pregnant women." He announced the policy change in a social media video in which no CDC officials appeared. [emphasis added] Who said what "CDC officials were not informed in advance of Kennedy's decision," The Washington Post said, citing a former agency official. Public health experts "immediately questioned" the announcement, The Associated Press said, in part because Kennedy, a "leading anti-vaccine advocate," bypassed a "scientific review process that has been in place for decades, in which experts — in public meetings — review current medical evidence and hash out" policy recommendations. [emphasis added] ... Pregnant women are "at high risk of severe illness and complications from Covid," and vaccinating them also "extends the protection to their unborn until the babies are about 6 months old," a period in which infants' risk of severe disease and hospitalization from the virus is "comparable to that among adults 65 and older," The New York Times said." The Week https://theweek.com/health/rfk-jr-covid-vaccine-pregnant-women-kids

Once again, RFK Jr. is not only a serial anti-vaxer and COVID misinformer, but now also a proven liar: RFK Jr: ‘We’re not gonna take vaccines away from anybody’ November 6, 2024 "Anti-vaccine activist and former presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who’s been promised a prominent health care role by President-elect Donald Trump in his administration, sought to allay concerns Wednesday that he would seek to halt vaccinations. “We’re not going to take vaccines away from anybody,” he told NPR in an interview this morning after Trump’s overnight victory. He repeated the message a few hours later in an interview with MSNBC." (more) https://www.politico.eu/article/robert-f-kennedy-jr-not-taking-vaccines-away-from-anybody/

"Since the vaccines became available, the government has been recommending the shots for nearly everyone, including children and pregnant people. Although children don't tend to get seriously ill from COVID, some do, especially very young children, and pregnant women remain at high risk for serious complications from the virus. [emphasis added] ... Dr. Steven J. Fleischman, president of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said his organization is "extremely disappointed" by the removal of the recommendation for COVID shots during pregnancy. "As ob-gyns who treat patients every day, we have seen firsthand how dangerous COVID infection can be during pregnancy and for newborns who depend on maternal antibodies from the vaccine for protection," he said in a statement. "The science has not changed. It is very clear that COVID infection during pregnancy can be catastrophic and lead to major disability." [emphasis added] NPR https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/05/27/nx-s1-5413179/covid-vaccine-children-pregnant-rfk-cdc

"Amesh A. Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, strongly disagreed with the decision and was critical of Kennedy, a longtime anti-vaccine advocate who Adalja noted recently said during a congressional hearing that people should not be taking his medical advice. “These are bad recommendations that no one should follow,” Adalja told Healio. “Pregnancy is a high-risk condition for COVID, as recently indicated in the FDA’s announcing of new clinical trial guidelines,” he said. “Healthy children — at least for their initial vaccine series — benefit, as hospitalization rates for COVID in those under 2 is unacceptably high, and routine childhood vaccination schedules include vaccines with lower morbidity levels. This decision should be viewed exclusively as the actions of an anti-vaccine advocate who unfortunately has the ability to wield government power.” [emphasis added] Healio https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20250527/kennedy-cdc-will-stop-recommending-covid-shots-for-healthy-children-pregnant-women

Another load of meaningless data (for current discussion in 2025) that predated the bulk of the COVID pandemic, and the later periods that had the highest COVID fatality rates: From your cited source: "We report IFR estimates for April 15, 2020, to January 1, 2021, the period before the introduction of vaccines and widespread evolution of variants." More broadly, it's a typical ploy of anti-vaxers and COVID deniers to express deaths and hospitalization data as population level percentages (which are going to be small under almost any circumstance, and to then totally ignore the thousands of child deaths and hundreds of thousands of COVID hospitalizations in minors. Child mortality and COVID-19 Last update: March 2023 UNICEF reported that more than 17,400 children and adolescents under age 20 had died of COVID, based on sampling and incomplete data from reporting countries. https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-survival/covid-19/

That from March 2020 was at the very beginning of the COVID pandemic, and has little relevance to what actually occurred during the ensuing years of the pandemic. And on top of that, the chart reflects their early 2020 modeling estimates, not any actual real data on fatalities from that chart. Put it all together, and it's totally meaningless irrelevant for the current discussion/topic! Especially when there's REAL actual data available on the point. According to CDC data, more than 1,800 minors died of COVID in the U.S. from the pandemic up through mid-2023: Provisional COVID-19 deaths by age group, by sex: United States https://data.cdc.gov/National-Center-for-Health-Statistics/Deaths-by-Sex-Ages-0-18-years/xa4b-4pzv And below is data on minors' COVID hospitalizations - some 234,000: American Academy of Pediatrics analyzes pediatric COVID-19 hospitalizations from 2020-’24 July 1, 2024 About 234,000 children under age 18 were hospitalized with confirmed cases of COVID-19 from fall 2020 to spring 2024, according to AAP analysis of data collected by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). [emphasis added] https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/29182 Real numbers. Real deaths and real illnesses from COVID in young people. Not the 2020 chart nonsense posted above.

Thailand has long liked favipiravir, also sold under the brand name Avigan, because the government's GPO has the rights to manufacture and sell it locally... But there's little evidence it does much to help COVID patients, and Japan -- where the drug was developed -- previously dropped it as a COVID treatment. And AFAIK, it was never approved or used in the U.S. or UK for COVID. From 2022: Japan's Fujifilm to halt enrollment in Avigan trial for COVID-19 March 11 (Reuters) ... "Former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said he hoped Avigan would be approved in May 2020 for COVID-19, and he pledged donate supplies to needy countries. ... ...studies in Japan have been inconclusive, leading domestic regulators to hold off approval for it, partly because animal study data showed it could lead to birth defects. As Avigan stumbled in clinical trials, other antiviral pills have come to the fore against COVID-19. Japan has bought millions of doses of oral treatments developed by Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) and Merck & Co (MRK.N)." https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/japans-fujifilm-says-terminate-enrollment-avigan-trial-covid-19-2022-03-11/ Fujifilm's Avigan shows no significant benefit on COVID-19 mortality - study TOKYO, Feb 18 (Reuters) - A study of global trials of Fujifilm Holdings Corp's (4901.T) antiviral drug Avigan suggests it has little benefit for COVID-19 patients once their symptoms become serious. .... But it failed to demonstrate statistically significant results in reducing mortality among those with mild to moderate COVID-19. ... In January, Indian drugmaker Dr.Reddy's Laboratories (REDY.NS), which bought the global rights to Avigan from Fujifilm last summer, halted a clinical trial of the drug in Kuwait. (more) https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/fujifilms-avigan-shows-no-significant-benefit-covid-19-mortality-study-2021-02-18/ A 2024 Cochrane review of favipiravir for treating COVID found: "Due to a lack of robust evidence, we are unclear if favipiravir provides any benefit in the treatment of people with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID‐19) infections who do not require hospital admission, as well as those admitted to hospital." • We do not know if favipiravir reduces the number of people who die from COVID‐19 when compared to dummy treatment, standard of care, or other antiviral medicines. The evidence supporting this is not very strong (derived from 11 studies involving 3459 people). • It is also very unclear if favipiravir reduces the need for people to be put on ventilators compared to a dummy treatment or any other antiviral treatments (derived from 8 studies involving 1383 people). (more) https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015219.pub2/full

Correcting this for you: Serial anti-vaxer and COVID misinformer RFK Jr. Stops Recommending COVID-19 Vaccines for Pregnant Women and [Healthy] Children The U.S. CDC under the Trump Admin. doesn't have a confirmed director at present, that being the person who normally would be responsible for making these kinds of final vaccine decisions. And, on top of that, there's no evidence thus far that the CDC's staff / experts had any actual role in the RFK Jr. policy change.

XBB COVID vaccine estimated to be 63% to 68% effective against more severe illness in kids December 13, 2024 "The adjusted effectiveness of the updated Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 XBB vaccine in the 2023-24 US respiratory virus season was 68% and 63% against hospitalization or emergency department (ED) or urgent-care visits among children aged 5 to 11 years and 12 to 17 years, respectively, with an overall effectiveness for both age-groups of 65%, a Kaiser Permanente Southern California (KPSC)-led research team estimates. ... The US COVID-19 hospitalization rate among 5- to 17-year-olds was about 10.5 per 100,000 during the study period. "Assuming 65% vaccine effectiveness, vaccinating the roughly 54.3 million 5-to-17-year–olds in the US could have averted approximately 3,700 hospitalizations and, using the approximately 30:1 ratio of hospitalizations to ED or urgent care visits we observed in our study, roughly 111,000 ED or urgent care visits during the 2023-2024 respiratory virus season," the researchers wrote. [emphasis added] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/xbb-covid-vaccine-estimated-be-63-68-effective-against-more-severe-illness-kids

American Academy of Pediatrics analyzes pediatric COVID-19 hospitalizations from 2020-’24 July 1, 2024 About 234,000 children under age 18 were hospitalized with confirmed cases of COVID-19 from fall 2020 to spring 2024, according to AAP analysis of data collected by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). [emphasis added] ... The number of COVID-19 hospitalizations varied substantially across time by waves of infection and emergence of new variants (see figure). The largest peak was in winter 2022 during the omicron surge, with 6,527 child hospitalizations the week of Jan. 15. In the final week of the report, April 27, 2024, 310 children with a confirmed COVID-19 case were admitted, among the lowest levels reported during the pandemic. Starting in January 2022, HHS also required hospitals to break out child admissions by age group (0-4 years, 5-11 years and 12-17 years) in their weekly reports. While children ages 0-4 comprise about 26% of the U.S. child population, they accounted for 58% of the confirmed COVID-19 [juvenile] hospital admissions from January 2022 to April 2024. This may be related to greater vulnerability or to lower vaccination levels among this age group. (more) https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/29182

And of course, no date, no source, no location geography, and no author info on the chart you keep posting, rendering the info meaningless.

Statement by the U.S. Infectious Diseases Society of America President Dr. Tina Tan on RFK Jr.s announcement: "Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s announcement that COVID-19 vaccines will no longer be recommended for healthy children and pregnant women does the opposite of what Americans have been asking for when it comes to their health — it takes away choices and will negatively impact them. ... This change is particularly troubling because pregnancy is a well-established risk factor for severe COVID-19 complications, including preterm labor and birth, preeclampsia, heart injury, blood clots, hypertension and kidney damage. Infants and children may also develop severe disease and may suffer from prolonged symptoms due to long COVID, which can negatively impact their development. This decision bypassed longstanding processes through which the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the CDC — an external body of highly vetted experts — conducts a robust review of scientific evidence in open, public meetings to make vaccine recommendations for people of all ages. It is concerning that such a significant policy change was made unilaterally outside an open, evidence-based process with no regard for the negative impact this will have on millions of Americans. [emphasis added] IDSA strongly urges insurers to maintain coverage for COVID-19 vaccines so that all Americans can make the best decisions to protect themselves and their families against severe illness, hospitalization and death. IDSA also urges Congress to conduct meaningful and necessary oversight to ensure appropriate decision-making processes at the Department of Health and Human Services, which will impact people of all ages." https://www.idsociety.org/news--publications-new/articles/2025/new-covid-vaccine-recommendations-threaten-access-undermine-choice-and-will-negatively-impact-health/ The Infectious Diseases Society of America is a community of more than 13,000 physicians, scientists and public health experts who specialize in infectious diseases. Its purpose is to improve the health of individuals, communities and society by promoting excellence in patient care, education, research, public health and prevention relating to infectious diseases.

For those who wrongly think young children, especially the unvaccinated ones, aren't at health risk from COVID, here's one answer to that: U.S. researchers in March 2024 published a study of 597 U.S. children ages 8 months to under 5 years who had been hospitalized with acute COVID at 28 pediatric hospitals from fall 2022 to mid 2023. They found the following: "Among 597 children, 174 (29.1%) patients were admitted to the intensive care unit and 75 (12.6%) had a life-threatening illness, including 51 (8.5%) requiring invasive mechanical ventilation... [emphasis added] Only 4.5% of children hospitalized for COVID-19 (n = 27) had completed their primary COVID-19 vaccination series and 7.0% (n = 42) of children initiated but did not complete their primary series. Among 528 unvaccinated children, nearly half (n = 251) were previously healthy, 3 of them required extracorporeal membrane oxygenation for acute COVID-19 and 1 died. [emphasis added] Conclusions: Most young children hospitalized for acute COVID-19, including most children admitted to the intensive care unit and with life-threatening illness, had not initiated COVID-19 vaccination despite being eligible. Nearly half of these children had no underlying conditions. Of the small percentage of children who initiated a COVID-19 primary series, most had not completed it before hospitalization." The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal https://journals.lww.com/pidj/abstract/2024/03000/characteristics_and_clinical_outcomes_of.10.aspx

Your Local Epidemiologist blog author Dr. Katelyn Jetelina in a recent post on the Trump Administration's political appointee-driven vaccine policy making: Bottom line "This isn’t about whether everyone needs a yearly Covid-19 vaccine—that’s a legitimate, ongoing scientific debate, and one ACIP was already tackling in June. This is about how decisions are made—and who gets to make them. FDA political appointees are sidelining expert panels, bypassing transparency, and turning public health into a performance. That might fly in other arenas, but shouldn’t when it comes to people’s health and daily lives. [emphasis added] Vaccine decisions must be rooted in evidence, debate, and transparency. If this is the new model, we should all be alarmed." [emphasis added] YLE is a public health newsletter that reaches over 375,000 people in more than 132 countries, with one goal: to translate the ever-evolving public health science so that people are well-equipped to make evidence-based decisions. https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/covid-19-vaccines-what-just-happened?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=281219&post_id=164017314

As for the non-existent process that RFK Jr. followed in leading to this policy change: "The move bypassed the traditional process. Once a vaccine is approved or authorized by the FDA, the CDC's independent vaccine advisory panel holds hearings to determine who should receive the vaccine, when, and how often. The panel — the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices — sends its recommendations to the CDC director. Once the director signs off, the recommendations become official policy, and insurance companies are required to cover the vaccines with no out of pocket costs to consumers. Richard Hughes IV, who teaches vaccine law at George Washington University Law School, said he cannot recall a previous time when an HHS secretary overruled the advisory committee and the CDC. [emphasis added] Washington Post https://archive.ph/eB6fM In this case, neither the CDC nor the FDA's advisory panels on vaccines -- which had previously supported COVID vaccines for children and pregnant women -- were consulted about the policy change announced by anti-vaxer RFK Jr. Ahh, and right now, RFK Jr. as HHS secretary is the only one in the U.S. government who has final say on all U.S. vaccine policy decisions because the normal person who would have that say -- the CDC director -- currently does not have a confirmed nominee, so that position remains essentially vacant for now.

The problem is, this policy change unsurprisingly has been made unilaterally by serial anti-vaxer RFK Jr. and his clown clone appointees, Makary and Prasad -- none of whom have any professional expertise with vaccines -- WITHOUT any input or advice from the FDA and CDC's expert medical and public health panels that historically have guided government vaccine policy. It's the typical Trump Admin governance by loons approach. And it's a policy, as regards children, that a lot of actual experts in the field, pediatricians, believe is WRONG. For example: New FDA framework on Covid vaccines leaves pediatricians confused and concerned May 20, 2025 ... "The possibility that Covid shots would become unavailable for kids alarmed pediatricians. “I see children admitted to the hospital with Covid and they’re not all high-risk children — including those who go to intensive care units,” said James Campbell, a professor of pediatrics and infectious diseases specialist at the University of Maryland. “If we have safe and effective vaccines that prevent illness, we think they should be available.” [emphasis added] ... Making sure children have immunity through early vaccination is something many physicians support, however, especially because most infants have not been exposed to the virus. “I think there is strong data to suggest Covid should be part of routine childhood vaccinations,” said Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease physician and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. “We vaccinate kids for things that have less morbidity and mortality than Covid, like chickenpox for example.” Emergency physician Jeremy Faust of Boston’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital, who hosted his own livestream to discuss the new framework as soon as it was released, said it was critical to make sure “immune-naive” infants 6 months and older receive the vaccine." (more) STAT News https://archive.ph/d6faP

"Barack Obama urged Americans to resist President Donald Trump’s bullying. Joe Biden warned that Trump is wrecking the “sacred promise” of Social Security. Bill Clinton decried the emphasis on grievances and the need to dominate. In an extraordinary stretch of just over two weeks, three former presidents have taken to the public stage to sound the alarm against the current occupant of the White House, despite the tradition that former presidents generally refrain from publicly criticizing their successors. Obama, Biden and Clinton did not explicitly name Trump, but their message was unmistakable. The three Democrats said, as much by their presence as their words, that these are unusual times for American democracy, that norms are being disregarded and extraordinary measures are required. The only living president who has not spoken out since Inauguration Day is Republican George W. Bush, though he has made little secret of his antipathy for Trump." (more) Washington Post https://archive.ph/lOBkV

And of course, RFK Jr. has once again proved he's simply a liar: After Trump win, RFK Jr. says he won't 'take away anybody's vaccines' Nov. 7, 2024 "WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who may play a key role overseeing public health issues in a second Trump administration, said Wednesday that he wouldn't “take away anybody's vaccines.” Asked in an interview with NBC News whether there are specific vaccines that he would remove from the market, Kennedy rejected the idea that he's "anti-vaccine" despite his repeated claims about vaccines' being linked to autism — and his involvement with Children's Health Defense, a leading anti-vaccine group. He reiterated that he wouldn't take them away from Americans." (more) https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-win-rfk-jr-says-wont-take-away-anybodys-vaccines-rcna178955

And from RFK Jr.'s arrival into the Trump Admin: How measles, whooping cough and worse could roar back on RFK Jr.'s watch December 6, 2024 "Now, after backlash against public health interventions culminated in President-elect Donald Trump's nominating antivaccine activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as the nation's top health official, infectious disease and public health experts and vaccine advocates say a confluence of factors could cause renewed, deadly epidemics of measles, whooping cough, and meningitis, or even polio. "The litany of things that will start to topple is profound," said James Hodge, a public health law expert at Arizona State University's Sandra Day O'Connor College of Law. "We're going to experience a seminal change in vaccine law and policy." "He'll make America sick again," said Lawrence Gostin, a professor of public health law at Georgetown University. (more) https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/12/06/nx-s1-5218574/rfk-vaccines-anti-vaccine-infectious-disease