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  1. Have just visited two 7-11s in my area (in Bangkok but bordering Samut Prakarn) that are within walking distance of the house and they're both well stocked with booze. In fact I spoke to the manager at one and he said that beer would be available everyday from now on.  Nothing to worry about at least in Bangkok.

  2. As an earlier poster mentioned - this ten days could very well be extended. In fact I think it is highly likely it will be. The ban on alcohol sales could last several months. Also it makes a mockery of the whole thing when alcohol can still be bought in Pattaya from 6.00 AM until 6.00 PM. Very strong anti-alcohol lobby here that would prefer the country abstained from alcohol permanently. More control over the population.

  3. QUOTE(Holger Grafen):
    "WHERE ARE THE RED SHIRTS!!!!!!!!!!! Don't they get it? If Suthep wins they will lose everything! Even the right to vote! Even their fundamental rights. If their leaders are not able to leave Thailand in time, they will spend the rest of their lives in prison. Yingluck will be exiled for the rest of her life. And after the election reform Thai-democracy will become similar to Singapore: 50% of the parliamentarians will be appointed by the government before the voting even starts. And therefore the ruling party will stay in power no matter the outcome of the elections."

  4. Three questions springs to mind at once.

    1) Had you ever been in there previously and possibly (inadvertently) caused offence to the young woman? (You could even have resembled someone who had done so in the past - I know a few people, especially in that area who have been victims of mistaken identity).

    2) How much did you understand of what was going on?

    3) Have you omitted any details here? (quite a common occurrence in threads like this)

    Firstly, I think you made a mountain out of a molehill with the police. You should have just paid up and left and carried on your afternoon elsewhere. Would have been easier all round.

    If this lass just took a dislike to you for no reason though then it's vile behaviour...but something just doesn't sit right.

    If she is of the bent of attacking her customers willy-nilly, one would have expected to have heard more of this sportswoman on these pages or elsewhere....but I haven't...

    I must admit I have a certain amount of sympathy for people working in the service industry in the Banglamphu area.

    Wages are piss-poor and tips are not as forthcoming as they are in other tourist districts. In spite of continual claims the area is going upmarket, most tourists there are still very much of the "budget" mindset.

    Little or no staff training is given to staff there who simply don't have the tools, culturally, linguistically or experience-wise to deal with situations which would be commonplace for most people to deal with.

    Many people working there, started there hoping to get a foothold onto bigger and better things which rarely happens and there are a lot of disillusioned people working there.

    The customers tend to expect (demand?) Western standards of service and product even though they're paying absolute peanuts. Its certainly not rare to see someone make a fuss if they don't receive it. I once saw a woman return a 50B plate of fried rice FIVE times because it "wasn't right'' - she was lucky to escape with her dreadlocks still on her head from the normally polite staff. There is one lass works there who makes the old heart flutter every time I see her, so charming is she, but even she was after blood that day.

    For smaller businesses, seating can be of a premium, Having someone sitting there nursing a couple of cheap ales and a plate of Pad Thai for three hours doesn't translate well in the profit margins which can cause consternation.

    It is a high pressure place to work. It's busy, noisy, crowded, dirty, hot and 95% of the time the staff there are working with customers who have little or no understanding or respect of their culture or language.

    This has created a certain culture of contempt among staff towards the tourists in the KSRd area, who are seen as dirty, smelly, rude, fussy and worse of all, tight-fisted. I used to hang out there quite a lot and was asked on an almost hourly basis why 'rich' tourists (and we're all rich in their eyes regardless of travel budget) always make a fuss over trifling amounts of money...

    Tales like yours used to be/probably still are very common on the old Lonely Planet Thorn Tree forum back in the day.

    "Don't go to such and such a place, the staff were rude to us" was the common mantra by the people making the complaints. However they'd often be omitting the basic details such as how they'd bawled out some poor uneducated, untrained kid earning 30B an hour for a minor mistake in a guesthouse costing a few dollars a night....

    Hi HD - in reply to your post - (1) yes my wife and I visited the restaurant in May of this year but on that occasion we sat at one of the dozen or so outside tables across from the restaurant. (2) No, I couldn't understand everything that was said between the police and the restaurant but I certainly understood almost all the insults that were directed at me at me in Thai. (3) Yes - I guess I have inadvertently omitted a couple of things that upon reflection caused have been contributory factors in setting this woman off like she did. When I arrived at the restaurant it was raining very heavily - torrential rain - and I took shelter under the restaurant's roof which extends out a little over the road. The soi was virtually empty and so was the restaurant which was unusual and I remarked to the woman and another serving girl that they wouldn't have any customers today if it continued like this. With this the woman who attacked me gave me a disparaging look - snubbed her nose at me and walked back inside the restaurant. Absolutely no offence was meant by me but maybe she took it the wrong way. I don't know. The only other thing that could have upset her was with me taking a few seconds of video from my table of the restaurant using my mobile. I panned from the inside to the soi outside. She was seated about thirty feet away. The restaurant was empty apart from myself. Looking at the video it appears she notices me taking video as she looks away when the camera is in her direction.

    And you say and I quote:"Firstly, I think you made a mountain out of a molehill with the police. You should have just paid up and left and carried on your afternoon elsewhere. Would have been easier all round." I did consider this whilst walking to the police station as I knew it would be a time consuming process (over two hours) and ultimely the police would probably do nothing. I was confirmed right. But I just decided that on this occasion I wouldn't let it go. If it had been the other way round would the restaurant have let it go and gone about their work? For sure they wouldn't have done so. They would have definitely called the police and had me arrested with the consequences of being detained - heavily fined and maybe deported and blacklisted if I couldn't come up with the extortionate fine the restaurant and the police would have no doubt agreed upon insisted on me paying. Possibly/probably I could have also been attacked by the staff and others before the police arrived.

  5. Hi everyone - I thought I would let you know about my very bad experience in Khoa San Road yesterday. Around two o'clock in the afternoon I visited a 24 hour restaurant in Soi Ram Butri - off KSR - and ordered a beer and food. As I normally do I asked for a glass of ice to drink with the beer which was served politely to me by the waiter. However when I asked for a third glass of ice - the glasses were very small - the woman taking orders (the owner's daughter) told me abruptly that it would cost me five baht. I then asked her politely as to why she was charging me when I had already ordered two large bottles of beer and food. With this and without any warning she went into a violent and abusive rage toward me - shouting and yelling - calling me everything under the sun and screaming at me to get out of the restaurant while at the same time she started throwing everything within her reach at me - papper napkin holder - menu holder - ash tray - whatever. The waiter then came between us and she backed off. He asked me to pay the bill and go quickly even though my drink wasn't finished. I said I would pay the bill but insisted I finish the drink on principle. A few moments later the woman again approached me but this time she was brandishing a machete and threatening to attack me.

    I then quickly paid the bill and left the restaurant. I then went to ChanaSongkran police station and reported the incident to the officers on duty there. About ten minutes later I accompanied an officer back to the restaurant but instead of receiving an apology - which is all I was asking for - I was instead subjected to a volley of nasty and vitriolic abuse by not only the woman who had attacked me but also her mother - and all this in the presence of the uniformed patrol officer who looked very embarrassed and uncomfortable.

    After about ten minutes of enduring this stream of vitriol and abuse the officer and myself returned to the police station. The officer then reported the situation to a senior officer and upon hearing this the three of us returned to the restaurant together. Upon returning the woman and her mother continued to threaten me and call me everything under the sun in Thai. The only difference this time was that the owner of the restuarant was now seated there. To his credit he appeared to be reconciliatory and apologised to me for the woman's behaviour and actions. However - even though I shook his hand and accepted his apology I told the police that what I really wanted was for her - his daughter I think - to apologise to me. That's all I wanted and if she apologised I wouldn't press the matter any further and wouldn't file a complaint.

    But she firmly refused and continued ranting and raging together with her mother and there was real hatred in their eyes - I guess because I had had the temerity to return with the police. The two officers then indicated we should all leave the restaurant. Outside the restaurant they then both got on their motorcycle and headed in the direction of the police station without saying anything to me. I think by their actions they simply wanted me to go away and not cause any further 'trouble' for them or the restaurant. Anyway - I walked the short distance back to the police station and again asked to file a police report and official complaint.

    But when I re-entered the police station I was surprised to see a woman officer from the tourist police there. I explained to her what had happened to me about an hour earlier and about ten minutes later - together with the station chief and the other senior officer - all four of us returned in a police car to the restaurant although at this time I was worried about my personal safety. They parked outside the restaurant and the two senior officers went into the restaurant. I remained seated in the car with the officer from the tourist police. After about thirty minutes the two officers returned to the car. They then spoke to the woman officer. They told her that the woman who had attacked me was no longer in the restaurant. She then told me that they (the officers) thought I was in the right. And that was it. I never did get an apology from the woman who had attacked me despite three consecutive visits to the restaurant accompanied by the police. Back at the police station the officers refused to do a police report for me. Instead I was given directions to the naerby Tourist Police office on Ratchadamnoen Avenue where I was advised to file a report. And then the Tourist Police Officer left the police staion before I had had a proper chance to talk to her again.


    (Earlier I remarked to the tourist officer that I had beforehand tried to call the tourist police but hadn't been able to get through and speak to anyone in person. She mentioned that she had only heard about my case by chance when visiting the police station on a routine afternoon patrol. She also remarked that previously the tourist police had had their own office at Chanasongkran police station but after the renovations at the station there was no longer any room for their office. Unbelievable.)


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    In short - my only conclusion following what happened to me is that this particular restaurant appears to be above the law. Not only did they attack - abuse and intimidate me but they also appeared to have intimidated the police to some extent. Obviously money still talks big time in this mafia controlled area.

  6. "Twenty-one year old Norwegian male beaten to death in Pattaya - Soi 7 - by a gang of katoey ladyboys. Apparently the victim suffered a fatal blow to the temple with a stiletto heel. (MiracleThailand/John Le Fevre)"

    Anyone know for sure the nationality of the victim? Thanks.

  7. ThaiRath says she told the Thai lawyer she had no BF or husband and the same to the Canadian. When he walked in the Thai guy got angry started hitting her.

    She then screamed that she did not know him ( the lawyer) and he was attacking her.

    The Canadian went feet first to defend his girlfriend............something he may regret for the rest of his life.

    Boy does this foxy chick sound like really bad news. Oh...and so easy and quick with the lies and deception. What a bxxxx.

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