Mitker

Speedy Gonzales.

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Other causes of death included drowning, falls from balconies and suicide.

While the origin of the Ambassador appears to be the biggest concern for most of the posters, the surrealistic content of the statement above seems to remain unnoticed.

My experience.

After my dog was it by a car, I decided to go the expensive way of surgery to increase recovery chances (my former dog had the same karma in Europe so I though I knew what I would go through. My mistake..).

- First stop (unspeakable incompetence): a private vet clinic in Hangdong (pretending to make your animal happy) run by a former student from CMU - graduated "with first honors". She suggested the (expensive) surgery. Total mess: insert of inadequate parts on the fractured bones and poorly treated wound. Result: dog returned with infection and lose screws and parts inside the body! :blink:

- Second stop (good spirit but no final solution): the vet clinic run by the CMU along canal road: they diagnosed the dramatic post-surgery condition of the dog, gave me some recommendations and pills but refused to keep the animal until the infection would be controlled(!), even with an deep open wound...

- Third stop: the saver! Upon recommendation, I went to Chotana private hospital (Superhighway close to Lotus Kamtieng, Nord of the city). At that point I was already considering euthanasia seeing how much the animal was suffering and pitifully crawling for weeks yet, while the wound was widening. The owner is a basically pragmatic vet who has experience in Thailand and extensive trainings abroad. He immediately understood the case, explained me with X-rays how awful the first job had been done (also confirmed later by a vet friend working at Chula who got the XR) and accepted to take the dog into custody, warning me that we had to hope the infection hadn't reached the bones yet and that it would take some time. He immediately discarded the idea of a new surgery.

I went there often to visit the dog. The wound slowly healed and his nice team was patiently taking daily care of the animal. His rates are also very reasonable and he is an intelligent, nice person to discuss with. It's not a glamorous barbie place and you won't find teddy bears in the window but that's not what my dog was needing.

After a few weeks, I could take the dog back home and it slowly started to walk again, painfully at first. But now, a couple of months later, you hardly notice anything. I would never have believed it.

What a pity I didn't go there in the first place. Thanks Sir. :jap:

Impressive how many will just oppose the move on the ground PTP won the majority of votes.

The rationale would be the same would they have won 5%: the law is there to be respected whatever your popularity.

But considering themselves about the law is something a wealthy family that likes flying abroad, and their cronies, proved too many times already.

I don't really think the move will ease Thailand situation but don't see anything illegitimate in it.

Of course democracy works on formal equality in the eyes of the law, but it has to be seen by people too, and in there lies the crux. In Thailand now a huge minority probably a majority see the law as not being even handed in how it is applied. In that situation laws become untenable in enforcement. To keep pushing it in what is seen as a one sided manner is going to result in an untenable situation.

Thaksin is pursued on all acocunts. The coup leaders are amnestied. Amnesty is denied other individuals. Party after party that wins elections is disolved for cheating with hundreds banned. One party is always cleared of electoral cheating. Now we can sit and debate the individual cases but the perception is who the people chose gets overridden while who is liked by the powerful is immune. It is dangerous to keep pushing that

Come on Hammered " with hundreds banned"

I expect better from you than this hyperbole,

Not even up to 200, and there are people banned from all parties,

not just Thaksincentric ones.

What is the point of the law if they

should or could be too ashamed to apply it?

If party after party cheats to get elected, then what, just let them?

So much for laws. Might was well just go to the wild west.

Hammered is right in pointing the fact that the justice is seen as favoring one side according to the momentum. But Thaksin had his full years of momentum too.

This leads to the roots of the problem: the perception the Thai society has of institutions and laws.

What's the image of the police force?

Is the judiciary considered neutral?

Is the law to be enforced?

Is corruption to be eradicated?

We all know the answers we would get from anyone in the street. But the real point is: what is done to fix the problems? Passivity is the big killer here. Average Thais will fight and riot for money and advantages; or their image. They won't for clean institutions and practices. They simply don't think it's worth the trouble. They prefer to live (keep on living) with it. Too often their immediate circle is involved in it.

Education is the weakness. If they were aware of how much they lose with this statut quo, for sure they would react.

More sour grapes from the people that cannot accept the election result.

The people have spoken and the people will act through their elected MPs. Now 300 strong, the PTP has a mandate to act as a government. I hope that it uses every peaceful, legal option that it can to crush all those that would seek to bait the people, foment civil unrest and sabotage the stability and prosperity of Thailand.

A mandate to govern,

not a mandate to let a convicted banned politician run their government from abroad.

I think it was ironic.

I would imagine that most members here have wives, sisters, daughters, girl friends. As such I would think you know that women are not predictable, just when you think you have them eating out of your hand, they suddenly bite your thumb off.

Everyone is assuming that Thaksin will control Yingluck, he is also assuming that, he might be due for a shock, after all they both come from the same background. Yingluck has reached the top of the heap, why should she jeopardise that just to please her brother? Particularly if she suspects they would both lose in the process.

I think too many people are jumping to conclusions, I think we need to wait and see.

I think a Thai Chinese clan running such an empire of wealth doesn't exactly follow the same internal rules than the average moobaan family.

He calls the shot.

In most countries I know they would have pounced before making a press release.

Here it's 'there will be a raid at 3pm on Friday'

Laughable.

exactly.

Impressive how many will just oppose the move on the ground PTP won the majority of votes.

The rationale would be the same would they have won 5%: the law is there to be respected whatever your popularity.

But considering themselves about the law is something a wealthy family that likes flying abroad, and their cronies, proved too many times already.

I don't really think the move will ease Thailand situation but don't see anything illegitimate in it.

Married to Weng she must be deaf in at least one ear.

I liked her thought that the red-shirts have matured - probably from infantile to a petulant childish. Imagine how much fun they will be when they reach adolescence.

Imagine this:

A country effectively remote-controlled by a convicted criminal on the run, in bright day light...

No, of course this would never, never happen but it's fun to try to imagine this.

"Another red-shirt leader, Kwanchai Prai-pana, said Nuttawut should stay away from the Cabinet and instead serve as government spokesman to "protect" Yingluck."

Government Spokes-liar, more like!

I think its absolutely hilarious that having done Thaksin's dirty work for him that the 'red shirt' leaders, with all the sacrifices they have made (including the regrettable and unneccesary lost lives of the naive 'red' foot soldiers) have been discarded so humiliatingly - apparently now, deemed as being liabilities to the cause, having secured Thaksin's (sorry Yingluck's victory).

That they (red shirt warriors) have spent time behind bars (not the type of bars they were used to in living it up in their 5 star hotel) and the coward Thaksin ran away in search of exile because he didn't fancy the idea of being put behind bars only serves to increase the beautiful irony of it all!!!!

Their naivity and gullibility has been exposed for what it was. "Where's our cabinet posts" they yell from the rooftops!!! "Can't have any is the reply" as your work is finished and I must concentrate on getting my brother back to Thailand without any distraction from the likes of you, go back to your farms and toil the fields where you belong, complaining peasants that you are - "a bloody nuisance if you want the truth be known" and you are starting to get on my nerves now.

Oh dear, what are the gladiators to think about how events have turned out where their rewards for distinctive service in aid of the many fellow duped kindred poor has turned into nowt with the only prizes preserved for the "cowboys" with nothing for the deserving "indians", still, thats life as they (didn't) know it!!! - maybe they should go to Bangkok and protest and create havoc again, this time against their masters. The only difference to before is that their generous sponsor's will be on the other side of the fence and they will have to pay their own way. Sorry lads and lasses, no matter your good intent - you blew it for Thailand - serves you right!!!!

Ultimate and classic own goal - team Shinawatra 1 "red" mugs zilch

I must admit Thaksin has one amazing quality: his unlimited capacity to turn his former friends into his worst enemies. After use.

A review of his case sounds fair to me.

Let's remember that all the charges against Thaksin were brought forward by the "Assets Examination Committee" (AEC). The AEC was established after the coup by the military junta. It didn't exist before. There were 12 members on the panel. They include:

- Kaewsan Atibodhi: A vocal critic of Thaksin for many years and speaker at the PAD rallies. He has publicly called Thaksin a hijacker and rapist before being appointed to the AEC.

- Jaruvan Maintaka: She was well know for her criticism of Thaksin before being appointed to the AEC. She refused to resign her position as Auditor-General after the Constitution Court ruled that her nomination was illegal. She was also criticized for nepotism, hiring her own son as her personal secretary using the state budget and bringing her children on a state-funded trip. She is also a member of the Democrat party and a PAD speaker at rallies.

- Banjerd Singkaneti: Also a long-time critic of Thaksin, and a leader of the PAD since 2006. Most famously, he has said that Thaksin was worse than Hitler.

These are just some of the 12 people who have brought charges against Thaksin. Now, after reading the above, I'm sure everyone will agree with me that a review of Thaksin's case sounds more than fair.

Of course, everybody "will agree with you" that Thaksin desserves a review of his case but as long as "his case" his reviewed:

- globally (concealment case, Suvanacracks, extrajudicial killings, Exim, Temasek, Deep South...)

- under a truly neutral, independent judiciary process (forget about the generous 2M THB cakes approach)

My bet is his 2 years jail sentence might suffer a serious inflation in this scenario

"Yingluck told the US news network that she would not encourage Thaksin Shinawatra to come back and serve his two-year jail sentence. "Let's start with the principle of the rule of law first."

Simply amazing!

How do you spell "inconsistency" again?

Enough already.. politicians, and political clans ALWAYS come back in Thailand.

Everyone knows it's going to happen, let's call amnesty for the Airport idiots, the Ratchaprasong idiots, the army generals who sent in war weapons, and Thaksin, who's actual 'conviction' on a conflict-of-interest charge is so minor you'd almost smile about it. (Looking at what past PM's got away with; if you jail Thaksin for that then you need to jail absolutely everyone with the possible exception of Chuan.)

Done.

From your analysis, I guess either you are not very familiar with the Exim case, either you find it very minor from a leader.

I don't know what's preferable.

It is obvious from the beginning that Yingluck is going to win this election; as a matter of fact she cannot fail.

This is a vote of the classes not so much by political persuasion and as the working classes are the majority in Thailand, well, you can work this out for yourselves.

The so-called elite that require the backing of the military to stay in power, held out as long as possible before going up for election. If they would have dragged their feet any longer, then Thailand would have been viewed internationally as a stratocracy and not as a democracy, the image that Thailand wants to portray of it`s self for many reasons.

Yinluck is a puppet for her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra and sooner rather than later, she will manipulate the law so as her long lost brother is able to return to Thailand, with all old differences forgotten and with a fresh start to his political career. Just like the quote made by Arnold Schwarzenegger from the movie, The Terminator, I'll Be Back and I always knew he would be. But this will inevitably enrage the opposition and civil war maybe imminent.

Whether you like Thaksin or not, this could be bad news for those living here whose countries revoked Thaksin`s visa when he was a bad guy, master criminal, an enemy of the Thai people and fugitive on the run, especially Britain. Remember his quote? The British will pay for how they treated me.

Like the title of the Fred Astaire song; I can see trouble ahead.

I couldn't agree more. Right picture of what comes ahead.

Not really that familiar with all that is pointed out.

But I am with some of the items and the points were taking out of context.

Such as presiding over a bloody conflict the Nation forgot to mention he did not start it and good person number 1 was protecting Thailand in the only way the instigators would allow.

Yes he presided over it. It was his duty to do so Any one in the PM position would have had to do the same thing It is there job.

Can you imagine good person number 2 with his bloody record in the position of PM? Now that is scarey.

Agree totally.

farang = from other country = bad = be aware!

Thai women = 'ladies' = good, nice, beautiful = innocent at any given time!

Thank you, Phuket Customs! How very helpful.

I don't find the word "farang" anywhere in the OP.

I think you miss the point. Thaksin succes is not about this or that policy. That's the old Thaksin, the one that Sondhi helped to kill.

The new Thaksin is about challenging the establishment. He appeals to everybody. From the poor guy in his rice field to the successful businessman who is tired to be restrain by dumb civil servants whose only qualification is to be born in the right family.

The old Thaksin would have probably disappeared by now. The new Thaksin will probably remembered as the political leader who helped the Thai democracy in the 21st century.

Totally agree, 100%

Thaksin would have dug a big hole for himself, shot himself in the foot and tripped over his own ego.

Having a coup and getting rid of him in that way transformed his image. I think if he had been left alone he would be a forgotten man.

His transformation was not of his own making, but the stupidity of others who thought he would fade away.

Thaksin has not changed, how people see him has. The majority of the voters see him as a hero who is fighting ingrained cheating and corruption. He must be laughing up his sleeve at how it has all turned out. 5 years later his sister stands to gain power and he will be the power maker behind all the smoke and mirrors.

As ye sow, ye shall reap. Quite apt for those that thought they were smart and he would slowly dissapear.

My fear is if he ever gets back into Thailand, he will have a number of scores to settle.

That is why some people are sitting on the fence these days.

They are ready and preparing for Thaksin having a say in Thai affairs again.

You are right.

He didn't change. He just learned.

That's why it's going to be even worse than before if he somehow gets back.

Capital + interest + revenge (and with a far firmer grip given the lesson).

People don't listen to economists.

Since almost all the campaign boards shows gifts THB figures (instead of real policies), they'd better listen to economists in this case.

Btw: only Dems don't play this cheap game but (or because of that) their boards have been destroyed.

July 3rd is coming and with it the national election, the very essence of Democracy.

Luckily, we will be blessed to witness this magic time. Matured by 2000 years of relentless struggle against tyranny, this staggering climax allows for a Country to meet its future leaders.

At that point, a whole Nation rejoins and makes an awe-inspiring choice between difficult but meaningful paths to follow. But everyone knows that sacrifying his own personal interest is the only way to achieve the Grandeur of the Nation in the benefit of the generations to come.

Sure, they will be indebted.

Yesterday evening, PBS aired a program about corruption. The broadcast was interesting and - to be honest- actually surprised me positively by the way it was addressing the issue quite straightforwardly.

Two guests (members of the anti-corruption body) from Hongkong were explaining how corruption truly affects the entire society, how the problem was addressed in their city, the results achieved so far and the necessary means and changes in hope to curb the disease. Talking in English with translation from the host, anyone could follow it.

But my biggest surprise came when the program became suddenly silent.

This very undoubtedly unwanted glitch let the viewers with only the image. This purely technical misfortune was solved... about 1 minute after the next program began. Topic: Thai traditional theater.

I was just wondering if this surely involuntary silencing of an interesting program about corruption only affected Chiang Mai area or if it had been nationwide?

Replying to Meeting Voters More Important Than Debate With Abhisit: Yingluck

read:

throwing coins for vote more efficient and secure than debate with Abhisit: Yingluck

(T. family values)

It doesn't matter a rat's arse what Farangs think or do, since they have no vote (thank Buddha).

Why are so many afraid of this man's influence?

He is the only voice I have heard that seems to offer a vision.

Who else in Thai politics offers a vision of a modernistic future for this medieval society???

Taksin offering a vision?? :blink:

The only vision this dictator-to-be hidden in a Santa Claus disguise has is his own wallet.

All the rest is plain empty rhetoric to grab power back. The list of his empty promises is endless.

On the other hand, this guy has a past that speaks for himself. Should he get back to power, he would be the biggest medieval fortress builder ever.

Inside, his friends and anyone who abide by the rule of not-so-clean money.

Outside, anyone who disagrees.

Pheu Thai Party Offers Tablets To Thai Students ONE STUDENT, ONE TABLET COMPUTER

Politics at its worst. Again.

Just another vote-buying, public money siphoning scheme.

This party is simply hopeless..

A couple of remarks on this one.

First, it's not an airport scam, it's an immigration police scam at the airport.

People that don't need a re-entry visa are not subjected to it.

As one of the posters replied, for some that do use this service because of logistics, they would consider the 200 Baht extra as a convenience fee.

I don't condone corruption, but sometimes (as in this case) it's a small price to pay for saving time and hassle, in my opinion about on the same level as paying 200 Baht for speeding.

Yermanee :jap:

Only my opinion - but I think ur very wrong + a couple of previous posters.

Calling this a convenience fee....by having such attitude corruption exists and will be spreading across thailand and many other nations. It's just easier to pay this - why would I bother? I'd never pay a penny I'd rather make a big show around that booth, waste my time and possibly get in trouble. At least I'd know I did something to fight it rather than being passive. I'd feel absolutely terrible if I just paid - but this is only me.

Same thing happens to policemen stopping u on the highway, trying to find something missing from your documents and in the end (when they realize everything is fine) asking 100 baht. I laugh straight in their face and tell them to deal with my embassy if they have a problem. What do they do? (Not right away but)....They walk away...

I have such attitude towards every single similar scam whether at the airport or not and it works... never got into trouble, spent some time on it and got what I deserved = WIN! In my opinion this is the way to go but if for you it'd be easier to pay 200baht then ur another little contributor to maintaining corruption on every possible level.

Hope I didnt offend u but I had to put my point accross.

PEACE

I agree totally with this analysis.