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Phil Clark
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In Pattaya I have used two different clinics and one Thai Doctor's practice.
The Thai Doctor took my blood pressure and went through the published list of ailments asking me if I had any of them: 250 Baht
In the first clinic the Doctor there also took my blood pressure but then listened to my heart and lungs before probing around my abdomen: 200 Baht.
In the other clinic it was simply a question of writing down my name and age: 100 Baht.
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Also yes, it is really strange that the wife stayed at home and not be with her hubby. I really wonder about that and have some interesting thoughts of the reasons why.
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Where in the report does it say that the wife stayed at home?
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Well, I can assure you that the lawyers are totally wrong. Most Thai lawyers are clueless. I have just been through the entire process with the Land Department, and have reviewed all of the relevant laws and regulations in detail. I can assure you that if your name is in a tabian baan for one year prior to selling your apartment (and assuming you are selling within 5 years), you only need to pay 0.5%. I urge you to contact the Land Department and ask for copies of the relevant laws and regulations.
Thanks Bob.
I have actually been to the Land Office in Pattaya and was given short shrift. The best I could get out of them was to go to City Hall.
As you have already reviewed all of the relevant laws and regulations in detail, could you please provide me with a reference that I can quote? At least I will then have a base from which to start.
Thanks
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I don't think the reporter gave an accurate explaination of what the wifes role in this was, she may have been hysterical after witnessing her husband being attacked & left at home with neighbours, she may have been at the hospital & sent home after after he died? Too many variables but from this report no one can really accuse her of anything, or maybe, from reading some comments, just being a thai women married to a farang is enough to make her guilty??? Please try to show some respect, the womans husband has just died & until more info is known, it's crass to start throwing accusations at her.
Well said, Boo!
It appears that some posters are incapable of reading the actual text of the report, preferring to leap to damning conclusions based on the unwritten word.
Sad people...
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Yes, the blue book they gave you is the tabian baan. Unless you have permanent residence (PR), you will not be able to have your name put into the blue tabian baan book. However, as the previous poster mentions, there is a yellow tabian baan book for foreigners. Make sure you get your name into this book! Otherwise, if you sell your property in the future and at the time of sale you cannot show your name has been in a tabian baan (either yellow or blue) for at least one year before the sale date, you will have to pay 3.3% special business tax on the sale price - as opposed to 0.5% if you have your name in the tabian baan book for at least one year prior to the date of sale.
Cheers,
Bob
Bob,
Do you have a specific reference to the Thai Tax legislation that spells out this rule? I have recently spoken with two Thai lawyers who both claimed that the 3.3% business tax in the first five years applies regardless of who or who is not in the Tabian Baan. They said it was only to do with the legal ownership.
I obviously want to be absolutely clear on this before I go through the hassle of getting a yellow book and can assure you it is absolutely nothing to do with wanting to prove the lawyers wrong...
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The funny thing is the Thailand is caught between a rock and hardplace. The fact is they need English speaking people to teach their young however they make it so hard for people to come to the Kingdom.
Not just for teachers, I.T, Sales, ETC... The simple fact they say how much they someone has to be paid based place of origin is crazy. I am from the US and they say I need 60 per month.. Well I lived there for 11 months on less than 40k No Problem.
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rk
The salary levels to which you refer are little to do with what you are actually paid. They are however, as I understand it, used to assess the minimum tax that you must pay.
As for how much you as an individual were able to live on, that is totally irrelevant as regards 'minimum' salary levels.
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This driver looks and sounds like a psychopath.
What would he have to do to lose his job?
Not pay his rent for the vehicle...
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Yeah Phil, this thread is certainly not for the color blind!
It is a good question. You basically ask: where can I see info that confirms that getting my name in the tabien bahn will give me any tax advantage (if selling before year 5).
I do not have the answer(there is a recent thread here discussing the point and the tax reduction though), BUT it was one of the reasons I mentioned to the officer when asked WHY I wanted it. He nodded and agreed that it made sense. (Not that that proofs much
).Cheers!
That's fair enough, Firefan, although he may well have thought that tax was something to do with his Prime Minister and therefore best avoided.
I would suggest he was not wrong...
Just out of interest as you appear to believe there is a possible tax break if selling a condo within 5 years, what is the source of your info?
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You were very very lucky
Then so was I!
It was over a year ago in Pattaya, but I was issued with licences for both car and motorcycle on the strength of my UK licence with no requirement for a test.
My licence does include a full motorcycle licence though.
Perhaps that made a difference as other Brits I know not having passed the UK test had to take the motorcycle test but not the car one.
I actually did a four part series of articles on my experience. They were published in the Pattaya Trader last year.
Not sure if anyone would want to read them, but if so just shout and I will post them.
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Phil; I might be mistaken, but I believe you are concluding something which has not been said.
As far as I understand (and that is not much!) it has nothing to do with the color of the book - it is simply that one (whatever nationality) has to have been in the tabien bahn (for a certain period) to obtain the lower tax if you sell within the first 5 years of ownership.
Cheers!
Well, the colour of the book seems to have featured rather a lot in this thread, relevant or not!
My understanding is that the only way a farang can get their name in the Blue book is by having Residency status, whereas the only alternative to get one's name in a book is via the Yellow route. That is what the colour has to do with the subject, or so it would seem, yet I also fail to see any real relevance.
My point is that I am told there is no tax differential dependent on the name contained in the Tabien Baan or for how long it has been there whether one is Thai or not. The key factor is, so I am told, the length of legal ownership.
So, to reiterate my previous words:
Hmmm, I was told from two different Thai legal sources plus the Land Office that the Business Tax at 3.3% also applies to Thai nationals; the colour of your book is irrelevant, the date you bought the condo is the only item invoking the Business Tax on the sale price if you sell within five years regardless of nationality.Of course the lips of the Thai people were moving when they told me (I always assume the obvious unless proven otherwise), so I am hardly taking their words alone as fact.
However, their reactions to the notion of a two-tiered system penalising farang who legally own a condo in their name were the same: mild amusement.
Can anyone provide a verifiable source/reference (a statute or whatever would be nice) to prove otherwise?
My question still remains.
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From the above posts it would appear that by having a Yellow book as opposed to a Blue book means you are exempt from the 3.3% Business Tax if you sell within five years of having bought a condo.
Hmmm, I was told from two different Thai legal sources plus the Land Office that the Business Tax at 3.3% also applies to Thai nationals; the colour of your book is irrelevant, the date you bought the condo is the only item invoking the Business Tax on the sale price if you sell within five years regardless of nationality.
Of course the lips of the Thai people were moving when they told me (I always assume the obvious unless proven otherwise), so I am hardly taking their words alone as fact.
However, their reactions to the notion of a two-tiered system penalising farang who legally own a condo in their name were the same: mild amusement.
Can anyone provide a verifiable source/reference (a statute or whatever would be nice) to prove otherwise?
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Was out and about last night saw the same bus come passed the top of Soi Yamoto 4 times over a 3 hour period and not once was there anybody on board.
I think the of the major drawbacks is the frequency of the service.............who wants to wait 30 mins for a bus when you can jump on a baht bus/motorbike taxi straight away.
Next time may I suggest you take your camera with you?
You could possibly sell a pic to the Pattaya Mail as they do not appear to have one...
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If I can get a roundtrip for atleast 28,000 Bkk to Sweden,
then it doesn't really sound impossible that a first class could be 65,000 baht
The 28,000 baht price you quote on that website is the absolute low-ball fare on either Egypt Air and Turkish Airlines, perhaps not every traveler's first choice of carrier. First-class fares are not just double that of the absolute cheapest economy class ticket you can find on a given route. It wouldn't surprise me to find that a BKK-Europe first-class ticket goes for a minimum of 100,000 baht on a reputable carrier, higher than that when you start removing any restrictions on the ticket.
Ok...I've never flew first class and never plan on doing so either...same trip, same distance, same aircraft, why pay more? Whatever, I have an adaptable comfort zone. And every super promotional economy flight I've flown on (which is every time) isn't that bad...free food, LQ, movies, music, and everything. So why should I pay three times more for the same exact flight?
Anyway, the point was that 65,000 baht is not an economy price for roundtrip airfare for any carrier. Unless of course you just don't know how to shop for a ticket. If you looked at the website, the highest fare for the better carriers wasn't even 50,000 baht---which in my oppinion is rediculous already.
As a general rule of thumb from what I have seen in Thailand via Travel Agencies, Business Class tickets cost roughly double Economy; First Class tickets are about four times Economy.
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56 yo widowed male 1999, cracked up, lost great MDs job, never worked since, most of cash gone, poss realise £200k. Cant survive in UK-cant face the past.
Has anyone experienced similar and moved to Thailand and found a new life.
Would need to be in reasonably lively place not in suburbs.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated regarding cost of living, accomodation, lifestyle, social life, ladies.etc.
Perhaps a sensible plan would be to take a long holiday in Thailand, staying in different places for a while before you decide what you want to do. It may also give you the chance to consider as to whether running away is the right thing to do.
I know the grieving process is different for everyone, but six years is a long time.
Have you sought professional help?
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How did the previous party go?
I do not recall having seen a report.
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I would ask your lawyer to arrange for the electricity account to be changed to your name.
When I 'bought' my house, the lawyer had the names on the water, telephone and electricity accounts changed without me even knowing. I assumed it was standard practice.
My main concern would be leaving the house unoccupied as breaking in and taking occupancy could well be her next move.
I agree that getting a large dog would at least provide some deterrent.
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Interest income is taxed at 15% and is deducted at source by the bank.
I currently get 1% gross interest, 0.85% net on a Fixed Deposit account with Siam Commercial.
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This scam has been going on for years.
I caught an attendant red handed at one of the stations on Thepprasit Road several years ago.
The reason I was suspicious was because the previous time I had filled up there, the tank being almost empty, the charge came to more than the capacity of the tank. The attendant and his colleagues became aggressive at my complaint but I still went in and complained to the manager. That was a complete waste of time and it seemed quite clear to me that he knew full well what was going on.
The next time I went there I got out of the car just as the attendant was about to put the nozzle in. I stopped him just in time and pointed out that there was 85 Baht already on the meter. He looked at me with disdain as he trudged back to the pump and reset it.
I always used to just hand the attendant the keys and let him get on with it, but now I always get out and check the meter before unlocking the cap.
I am occasionally asked if I have a problem and provided the meter is set at zero I tell them: "No?"
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I feel for this guy. Must take some balls to stab yourself in the stomach though...Owwie
At least he showed everyone he has guts...
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Usually money is gone when this type of arrest is made. I woud imagine he didn't have enough to cover the "Exit Clause".
Shouldn't that be "Exit Klaus"?
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totster
It works fine as far as I can see. Anyone else having a problem?
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Very commendable thing to do as the human head is like an egg when it comes to impact.
I myself suffered a serious head wound whilst in the militry and know the consequences.
what is a honda dream ?. I drive a Honda CBR 600 and favour a SHARK helmet .. about 250 bucks.
maybe you could pay for her to go on an advanced driving course. I have done one myself and can now drive faster and safer.
Honda Dream:
It is not exactly a speed machine but they can race along.
My maid is actually a very sedentary driver but as you know, coming off and landing on your head at any speed can be fatal.
All it takes is one pot-hole...
Thanks for all the replies.
Phil
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Thanks for the responses, much appreciated.
I found the different views expressed interesting.
That said, it presents something of a dilemma!
Perhaps I should have explained in advance, but now am glad I did not despite having possibly opened Pandora’s box.
The reason I want to buy a new crash helmet is not actually for me, it is for my maid. She drives a Honda Dream and she used to have a crash helmet that appeared to be quite robust. It had a full visor although not the full chin wrap-around type. That was stolen recently and she replaced it with something of a standard that I would not turn over and let my dogs drink from in case they accidentally bit into it. We are talking tissue paper modelled in cheap plastic.
It is her birthday next week and so I thought I would buy her a decent one as a surprise. Just to make it clear, this is my maid and no more (?) although I also regard her as a good friend.
She is a diamond.
I was actually thinking in terms of up to 1,000 Baht or a bit more if I thought it looked worth it in terms of quality, but I cannot see myself going to the 5,000 Baht plus mark as that would be more than her monthly salary.
It would also most likely annoy her if she knew I had spent that much on a helmet if you know what I mean. I normally buy her a gift costing around 200-300 Baht and you can bet she knows how much everything costs.
Regardless, I want her to have a crash helmet that is worth wearing for a reason far more important than saving a fine for not wearing one.
Given the above, any more advice greatly appreciated!
Dying Girlfriend?
in Pattaya
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This was how the kids at the Camillian Centre said thanks to the people at Bahtbus.com when they hit their million baht target for their Jaidee Appeal which raises money for the Camillian Centre.
The Drunkatholon thread can be found on their Message Board by clicking on: 2005 JAIDEE APPEAL JW DRUNKATHOLON: IN MEMORY OF AOM
You have to be a member to get in, but it is free and only takes a minute or two to get an e-mail back with your password.
They also have a credit card link set up so you can make donations online directly to Father G.
As you will see, they set the appeal up specifically for the kids who were orphaned and/or born HIV positive, but the funds they raise are also used to help unfortunates such as Aom.
They obviously have a close connection with Father G as that was how it was possible to get Aom admitted.
Such a tragedy that it turned out to be too late for Aom, but at least her memory will help raise funds to help others who find themselves in a similar situation.
To quote from the thread concerning Aom's passing: "This is also a chilling reminder to all about the harsh realities of the times in which we live."
It never ceases to amaze me how even today some people do not take the reality of HIV/AIDS seriously, typically because: "I've never known of anyone who got it..."
Well now we all do.
RIP Aom.