alantheembalmer
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How many more hubs can Thailand take?
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Well, OP, what should someone do with their wealth? To me, if you got it, flaunt it. Chicks dig it.
so do thieves
Aren't they the same people?
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There is just an overwhelming impression of a total lack of responsibility by those in the upper echelons of the RTP.
I wonder who in the RTP is going to be hung out to dry when the Met report is made public?
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Well, it could have been worse. North Korea might have had a punt just to see how many votes they would get.
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"He said that case needed to have substantial evidence as it is closely watched by people around the world."
more substantial than a dna match and confession?!
is that evidence not rock solid anymore then?
I think the Brits have told the Thais that they have done their own DNA check and there isn't a match. You're now seeing the Thai side scrambling around for some kind of face save.
First thing is to buy some time by delaying the court case and passing it back to the responsibility of the police. Look for some announcements in coming days of technical problems with the machines used to do the DNA check plus some kind of other development that couldn't possibly have been foreseen by the police.
So a new conclusion might be reached, but of course it's not the fault of the police that they accused the wrong men and the changed result is due to their own efforts, nothing to do with the public or the Brits.
I have looked at and posted on this Forum UK procedural documents for both murders of UK citizens abroad as specific to Thailand and for the FCO worldwide in general. In no document that I have seen is there any mention of securing DNA prior to embalming in the country where the death occurred. If the bodies were embalmed prior to repatriation to UK there is almost no chance according to the scientific pathology literature that DNA of other persons could be recovered from the victims as it is difficult to recover and identify DNA from the victim's body at all.
So while it has been repeatedly said on here that the UK investigators have produced DNA other than from the victim's after the bodies were returned to UK, there is no indication in any UK document that that would or could have occurred.
Just a quick note on embalming. I have received many cadavers that were "embalmed" in foreign lands in the mortuary I worked in. All were in an appalling state and not fit for viewing by the next of kin. Furthermore, it is a requirement of international transportation that embalming is performed, and a certificate issued. However, the body is then sealed into an airtight metal box before being transported, so Customs do not inspect the remains, even if they were inclined to do so. The term "embalming" has a somewhat loose definition, and can mean anything from a top job that can be seen in the UK and USA, to simply immersing the body in a bath of formaldehyde before being exported.
It should also be remembered that in a crime case the post mortem examination is extensive and invasive, and any tissue or material, (including whole organs), that maybe helpful to the police or courts is removed and kept.
My apologies if the above is a bit too graphic, but it might put the problems that the UK investigators are facing into some perspective.
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Man from The Yard "Can we have a look at the chain of custody of the DNA samples?"
Man from the RTP "The what?"
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"An NHRC sub-committee would soon contact the prison where the men were being held so x-rays could be taken to determine if they had any injuries."
Do you think they might be the first prisoners to die from alleged radiation sickness?
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What does it say on the tee shirt on the man on the right?
"If it fails good, do it." Great slogan for the Thai police force.
Thanks for that clarification. Do you have any idea what it means?
Well, I would suppose it is the Thai rendition of that old saying "If it feels good, do it" which generally means "Do whatever feels good to you", or having no moral compunction against depraved behavior.
Since it is a Thai law enforcement officer and it say "If it fails good, do it" I would conclude this is how they modeled their murder investigate at Koh Tao. In other words, whatever incompetent methods seem appropriate, go with it.
Or maybe I'm just a cynic.
Maybe the punctuation should be: "If it fails, good, do it"?
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What does it say on the tee shirt on the man on the right?
"If it fails good, do it." Great slogan for the Thai police force.
Thanks for that clarification. Do you have any idea what it means?
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Of course all Nigerians are scammers....when is the last time you got an email from another country saying you have inherited money from a dead distant relative?
I got one from Ghana last week. Or could it have been a Nigerian trying to fool me?
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What does it say on the tee shirt on the man on the right?
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"Some 100,000 prisoners have less than five-year imprisonment left, majority of them are imprisoned for drug peddlers."
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"........investigation into the whereabouts of her elderly Japanese husband."
"An informed source said police went to Prachin Buri looking for Phornchanok Chaiyapa and her Thai husband"
How many husbands does this women have?
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I bet the boys from The Yard only want to come to see what a "perfect" investigation looks like.
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If you jumped from the top of this, you would have time to write your suicide note on the way down. That will be good news for the BiB.
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OK, which one of you told Thein Sein they were from Myanmar?
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Just softening us up for the inevitable.
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Get that DNA verified
Heres another family whos son was killed on KT earlier this year while on holiday with his family for crissake, I say killed because ... well you can read yourself.
Im beginning to think theres possibly a serial killer on the loose somewhere on KT
These kids and thier families deserve Justice
Just how many people have died in the last few years, or raped ? someone should look at the numbers there should be a real full investigation into KT AND the other Islands, this is beginning to stink to high heaven
It would be interesting if someone could do an analysis of the ages of those that died under suspicious circumstances, or had serious violent or sexual crimes committed against them, on KT in recent years. Maybe a pattern would emerge that could be quite revealing?
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You couldn't make this stuff up!
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I went to CW yesterday for my 6th retirement extension. Had all the paperwork in order, and when I got to see the officer in L Section there were no problems.
However, I was very surprised at the number of people waiting when I got there. I got ticket number 86 at 9.54am, and there were 65 people ahead of me. The afternoon was even worse, and the man next to me had 104 people ahead of him at 2.15pm. I eventually saw an officer at 3.15pm, and after getting everything re-checked, and a re-entry permit, I finally left the building at 4.35pm, just in time for the evening rush hour.
I was told when I was there that they are getting much busier lately, but the one question that I could not find an answer to was this:
"If you get a ticket at the counter, does that guarantee that you will be seen on that day?"
Does anyone know the answer?
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Moving on from my earlier posting, it might be interesting for some members to read about Locard's exchange principle.
During this appalling crime there must have been transference of innumerable pieces of forensic material from one party to the other, which could be discovered at the crime scene, and at the residence of the perpetrator. Either the police have failed to locate this evidence; they have it and are waiting for their grandstand moment; or they have it and are concealing it from scrutiny.
I wonder which of these options it is?
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Do the RTP not realise how much blood would be flying around as these brutal attacks were taking place? The perpetrators would have it all over themselves and their clothes, but the police don't seem to have found any trace of blood on anything but the hoe.
Does anyone else find this rather curious?
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Blimey, Bang Ban district and Khlong Takhian sub-district sound like fun places to live.
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I am not a detective, and I know next to nothing about police procedures, but if I was in command of this investigation, I would have called the suspects in, given them a cup of tea and a doughnut, and said "Well, your DNA tests are due back in a couple of hours, anything you want to tell me?" If the DNA tests came back positive, then I would have used the hackneyed old phrase, "your nicked, my old sons!". If it was negative, then I would have waved them goodbye.
Either way, I don't think I would have wasted my time trying to get a confession, as I would have looked rather foolish squeezing one out of the boys, only to have the DNA test reveal that it was not them; OR, if the DNA tests were positive, then a confession might have been nice, but the DNA would have been the compelling evidence needed for a conviction.
Or am I missing something?
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Koh Tao Murder: Rights Agency Threatens Legal Action Against Police
in Thailand News
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"....................but police refused on the grounds that any testimony given to the rights commission may affect the ongoing murder investigation."
For once I have to agree with the RTP on this point. If it transpires that the Burmese were tortured whilst in police custody to confess, then it couldn't do anything else but affect the investigation!