rijb

The war to end all wars was the 1st world war, then the war to end all wars was the 2nd world war. since then we have had a multitude of wars and we are still fighting all over the world. I don't know for sure, but at a rough guess I would say that 1/4 or more of the world is at war now in some form or another.

The Christians will eventually rise up as they have in the past wars and sort it once again.

The trigger points for another WW are in place...

http://www.businessinsider.com/world-war-could-happen-iii-trigger-2014-7

Why are you some of you haters still here? You made your point. Are you waiting for a visa?

Most posters have done the seagull thing... Swoop in, drop shit, swoop out.

Time to piss off. Go start a thread about your own sorry country.

I have a question.

As I've said I've personally experienced explicit and irrational anti-American feelings expressed to my face from people who don't know me.

Some of the reasons have been expressed here.

Some of it is about foreign policy and also objections to internal things in the U.S. like gun mania.

Some of it is about behavior judged to be unpleasant.

So here's my question.

Right now there's a lot negative in the news about RUSSIAN foreign policy (and also internal policy).

Specifically their land grab in Crimea and propping up the airplane shooters in rebel areas of Ukraine.

Their dictator Putin enjoys 85 percent support so chances are if you meet a random Russian, they do like Putin and his hyper-nationalist policies.

Their disgustingly repressive anti-gay laws also enjoy overwhelming popularity so if you meet a random Russian, most likely they support these horrible laws.

Certainly many Russians also display unpleasant behavior while abroad that might be equally or more objectionable to the complaints about Americans.

Such as pushing, shoving, not smiling, not mixing with non-Russians, territorial piggishness at buffets transport and beaches, etc.

YET, I have never observed a Russian person being confronted with rude expressions of anti-Russian feeling as I have experienced as an American.

WHY IS THAT?

Are people afraid of Russians?

If it's OK to be so rude to Americans based on perceived negative stereotypes, why not to Russians?

I don't know so unless someone can explain it me, my theory is people are afraid of Russians in a way they just aren't afraid of Americans.

We smile!

The Russians don't go round telling everyone how wonderful they are. The Americans never miss an opportunity to tell we poor second raters that the sun shines out of their collective ar ses

Do you speak Russian?

Putin's pretty cocky.

Actually I think the reasons for this anti-Americanism are dated now. Americans in general are waking up to the fact that it is NOT number one in most things, except for things like obesity, incarceration rates, and gun mania.

Most of the actual hate will mostly only come form middle eastern countries. Other places around the world people will be more along the lines of jealousy with their feeling towards the USA. If I could do it all again I probably would made a move in early age from Europe to the states tbh. What a country.

That attitude could have carried some weight 20 years ago. Today, America is a pale shadow of its former self. The economy has been absolutely decimated in that time. Yes, the numbers look ok. But, to a large extent this administration is just making those numbers up as they go along. The unemployment rate is a good example. It is pure fiction. But, the reality on the ground, is that the majority of the population is in shell shock. They have been stripped of a lot of their security, they have lost a lot of their savings, the values of their homes have not remained constant, and the confidence of these people toward the future is bleak. I know a lot of these people. I have a business in the US. Only the very wealthy continue to spend money. The average American has his head tucked in the sand, as if the end of the world is approaching. First Tiny George II, and now Blundering Barry Obama have both absolutely shattered their ability to believe in the future. Nearly all their dreams, and illusions they have been fed while growing up have proven to be false (the greatest land, the strongest economy, everybody listens to us, we have a lot of influence throughout the world, we are the worlds most important country, etc, etc.) and the result is a land with a lot of disappointed, unfulfilled, and bitter people. I spend time there. I see it first hand. I talk to friends and family, and look at my client base, and see how decimated the place is. America is quite simply not the land it used to be. It is not the paradise it thinks it is. It is a difficult place, with a shattered economy, a beaten down population, that is losing hope in its future. All this is just my opinion of course. Bit, it is the way I see it.

Spidermike

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Don't throw the towel in yet. http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the-21st-century-may-be-even-more-of-an-american-century-than-the-20th-century-ever-was-2014-7

I have been around firearms all my life and served several years in the military and this it the first time I heard of an accidental discharge where the person shoots himself in the chest. Very very had to swallow.

So, it was an exit wound?

My name is on every post.

Report

Hamas media strategy seems to be working.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/21/opinion/oren-hamas-media-strategy/index.html

Nah. He was being chased through a tunnel.

How many points does he get for that?

Pervert.

Pearl Harbor is home soil.

I am an American. It is govt. policy, and the extent to which the US Govt. is compromised. Run by $35 street whores from Obama right on down. Bone headed foreign policy. Tremendous arrogance and hubris. And an unwillingness on the part of the listless, incompetent US govt. to acknowledge how much less relevant they are, at this stage. And lastly, there is tremendous resentment due to the useless wars we keep getting ourselves involved in, and the problems they create for the planet. So, basically I can sum up the problem by saying US Govt hubris, arrogance, carelessness, incompetence, poor foreign policy, and recklessness. I do not think it is about most American people. Yes, some are loud and clumsy. But, most are decent folks, and most people I meet seem to hate our super corrupt govt. whores, not us.

Spidermike007

Be honest. You live in Russia and your first name is Edward and your last name is snow-something?

Nah. But I am a huge fan of that man. Anybody with cajones large enough to out the biggest spy organization in our lifetimes (I doubt the KGB had the kind of budget these ridiculous fools have) is my kind of guy and nothing short of my hero. And I am an American. Sorry, but spending all that money spying on American grandmothers is a bit excessive. Oh is criticizing the US now illegal for Americans? Hard for me to keep up with the rapidly developing level of fascism Blundering Barry is engaging in. Let's see, a fascist, very incompetent and completely lacking in vision? Real leadership qualities. I always like to say, he would have made a decent leader of the Illinois chapter of the Boy Scouts. But the (supposed) leader of the free (when it comes to the US that description is a stretch) world?

Spidermike007

Like they say in the movies... I disagree with you. But, I'll fight for your right to say it.

So a lot! This line of argument began when I facetiously said that Americans believe that world history started in 1776 and that WWII started in 1942.

But I will move beyond that to also point out that many Americans feel that they are responsible for winning WWII, not considering the sacrifice that Russia made bleeding the Nazis dry on the Eastern Front (there's a reason that German soldiers were fearful of being posted east) or the fact the Britain and the commonwealth had to withstand twin pressures from Japan and Germany years before the US actively joined in. By the time the US joined the cause with its fresh soldiers and equipment, the other belligerents had been much ground down by years of heavy fighting. This is not to take away from the American contribution, but the Americans should not act as if they were the saviours of the west either.

I'm one of them that thinks the USA is responsible for winning the war.

The USA sold ammunition to the allies (I'm trying to keep it simple) under a policy of cash and carry in 1939 and 1940.

Britain and Russia ran out of money in 1940. So in the 3rd month of 1941 the Lend Lease Act was signed into law. The bullets were free but the guns and tanks, food and stuff that weren't blown up or used were to be returned or paid for at the end of the war. The terms of the agreement provided that the materiel was to be used until time for their return or destruction. Canada operated a similar program called Mutual Aid that sent a loan of $1 billion and $3.4 billion in supplies and services to Britain and other Allies.

So, you all would have run out of guns and ammunition and food in 1940 and lost the war if not for the Americans.

The Brits and the Russians were brave and all that but would have lost the war with no weapons or food in 1941 before America officially entered the war.

The Lend-Lease Act was passed by Congress on March 11, 1941. It provided that the president could ship weapons, food, or equipment to any country whose struggle against the Axis assisted U.S. defense.

By permitting the president to ship war equipment and supplies to a besieged Britain, without payback as stipulated by the 1939 Neutrality Act, Lend-Lease empowered the British to resist the German onslaught until Pearl Harbor spurred America into the conflict. In addition, it avoided the prickly issues of post-World War I war debts.

Lend-lease advanced the United States to the edge of war. Such Isolationists as Republican senator Robert Taft spoke against it. The bill would "...give the president power to carry on a kind of undeclared war all over the world, in which America would do everything except actually put soldiers in the frontline trenches where the fighting is," he correctly observed.

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1600.html

So that's the truth and unless you can tell me how the Brits and Russians would have fought a war without food and bullets then the Americans were responsible for winning WWII along with the other allies.

the battle of stalingrad demonstrates that the nazis never would have defeated the russians. they would have fought them tooth and nail all the way to kamchatka. and the point was that many americans claim they WON THE WAR! period.

Don't worry. You guys can take the credit for winning the next world war.

So a lot! This line of argument began when I facetiously said that Americans believe that world history started in 1776 and that WWII started in 1942.

But I will move beyond that to also point out that many Americans feel that they are responsible for winning WWII, not considering the sacrifice that Russia made bleeding the Nazis dry on the Eastern Front (there's a reason that German soldiers were fearful of being posted east) or the fact the Britain and the commonwealth had to withstand twin pressures from Japan and Germany years before the US actively joined in. By the time the US joined the cause with its fresh soldiers and equipment, the other belligerents had been much ground down by years of heavy fighting. This is not to take away from the American contribution, but the Americans should not act as if they were the saviours of the west either.

how was britain forced to withstand years of japanese pressure before december 1941?

Docno - A lot of good people died because of that war. Who the hell are you to judge their contribution?!

actually it was 1941

See above (i.e., I rounded up by three weeks). That said, the first offensive action by the US following the declarations of war was in January 1942 (US attack on the Japanese-occupied Marshall Islands).

it was 1941

USS Enterprise attack on Marshall islands in 1942 (see http://cv6.org/1942/marshalls/default.htm). Rather than repeating three words, please provide an example of an earlier planned/coordinated offensive action. Repetition does not a debate make.

BTW, you're still missing the point, which is that in the 'American mind', WWII began in 1942 (or 3 weeks earlier if you want to be a stickler).

So what?! They stayed until the end.

It's easy to blame the teachers because they're the most visible.

I believe the (invisible) administrators, at all levels, are what's rotten in Thailand's education system.

The teachers are as much of the problem as the MofEd, e.g encouraging parents to let children attend their paid w/e sessions of the curriculum that they don't teach Mon - Fri so they can pass onto the next level.

The teachers could not do that without blessings from the principal (s/he gets a cut) and other administrators.

I consider such people harmeless but deluded.Let them be .

Maybe the young people that try to help are harmless.

But, there are some groups (organizations?) that are not so innocent.

Every year there are groups that come to the government school, next door to me in Mae Chan.

They make the kids write a letter seeking a 'god father/mother'. They are given a 'pre-written letter' to copy. The kids don't know enough English to understand the letter.

The 'sponsors' are from many countries. They 'adopt' a kid and send money.

However, the only thing the kids have gotten is a very flimsy uniform and pair of shoes that don't usually fit. The uniforms are substandard copies of what parents buy in Lotus.

This is done without permission from the parents. However, the school administrator and teachers let these people in the school and cooperate with them.

I don't know what's in it for the school or the teachers.

Hasn't your country supported US foreign policy many times?

many times and i never vote for a party that does. and if someone despises me for it, I wont wonder why.

I save my disgust (and vote) for elected officials who have deceived their voters (and bow to special interest groups).

Scratch any cynic and you will find a disappointed idealist. - George Carlin

I'm an independent. We don't have a primary. Do you enjoy being judged because of people you had no part in electing? Yeah, I don't either. I'm not saying it doesn't occasionally happen, but I hope that most people are intelligent enough to realize that we didn't all vote for the people you hate. Why assume that we did?

then dont tell us you only had two choices. the vast majority of your country votes for the two wings of the american corporate party and as such endorses the murderous behaviour of american foreign policy over decades. the OP asked why the anti- americanism? . folks are telling you why. unfair to you personally? thats life, get over it.

Ok, fine. Judge me. You have that right. I won't lose any sleep over it. The optimistic part of me hopes that most people are not quite that narrow minded, though.

i dont judge you, i judge america and those who support her foreign policy

Hasn't your country supported US foreign policy many times?

This is my personal favourite.

It's a dramatic poster for people who are more interested in fake drama than real facts.

The genocide charge became popular during protests against the Vietnam war.

Deadly pathogens from European settlers were responsible for the largest number of native american deaths.

Slavery has existed since ancient times. And it still exists today because it’s a profitable system.

Slavery polarized the U.S. before and after its very costly civil war.

American history taught in schools, has gotten a lot better about explaining the real facts. And making sure no one forgets.

Yes, but some are more duplicitous and deceitful, and heinous than others. To deflect blame onto another country altogether (the fabrication of a bogeyman), invade that country, spend a trillion or more in treasury, have a few thousand of your own boys killed, and according to independent organizations, be responsible for the deaths of about 200,000 people, including alot of women and children is a serious breach of foreign policy. Are you suggesting a free pass for the govt. responsible? Not to mention the aftermath. And all this is besides the point. We are discussing why the US is hated, are we not?

Spidermike007

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I believe, like so many other times in history, a handful of people are responsible. And I'm as disgusted as everyone else.

It would help if Americans and their 'friends' stopped killing people.........also look at the tragedy of MH17...without a shred of evidence the US 'knows who did it' b******t!'

The US Government knows everything...everything!...

Example?

The US Government knows who did 9/11.....the American people don't....but already the case is closed. Next....

9/11 may have been committed with direct Saudi govt. sponsorship. Did the US do anything about that? Of course not. Allies are given a free pass. Wahhabism is one of the most extreme forms of religion on the planet. Saudi in a nutshell. Also, the Saudis have alot of money invested in the US. Another free pass. Biased foreign policy is the very definition of US foreign policy. It's no wonder that govt. is despised worldwide.

Spidermike007

You should't sit when you talk about things you don't understand. It muffles the sound.

Every government's foreign policy is influenced by self-interests. It's not a popularity contest.

You probably throw a fit every time fuel prices go up.