Amsterdam

Yup perhaps, dont think so though. Papa doesnt know about me yet (though we suspect he does but isnt saying anything) but her mother, sister, son, daughter have been to Pattaya to meet me. All went well. Papa to be told if/when , me/she ready.

Have seen photos of village so that will probably have to do until I finally get there.

A friend of mine had the same situation he met the whole family except the father. In the end after 2 years the father got sick and died so he never got to meet him. It just makes me think about the whole family relations ship to keep such secrets from each other especially between husband and wife. Maybe I should start interrogating the wife to see what she is keeping from me

Best of luck and I hope it works out.

Thanks lampard10. Father is an important man in the area so she doesnt want him to lose face if she/me dont work out . Been 18 months perhaps give another year and I'll get to see the village.

Maybe she dos not want you to meet her husband/boyfriend.

HI,

I don’t really know or believe to much about this black magic stuff but I wanted to let you know my small experience and I hope it might help you.

My wife greatly believes in black magic and we spotted the neighbors trying to take pictures of me. My wife thinks that they will use this to do some sort black magic on me or us. This happened about 2 months ago.

My wife was really worried about this and as if by coincidence an old spiritual man from Cambodia came by the house. Now this man has some history with the family over the years and only seems to pop up when there is some fear of black magic in the family. So this guy was the answer to all our problem!! ( I still don’t know what the problem was as I am a skeptic when it comes to black magic)

I ended up with some sort of protective string around my waist. It’s a red string with some beads on it. I am supposed to wear it all the time to protect me against the black magic. After a week of pleasing my wife I asked how long I was supposed to wear this. The answer was that I should keep it on until it drops of. My thought was that this can take 10 or more years so I said no no no. the compromise was to hang the string by our bed.

Well I am not sure if this helps you but over the last two months no bad things have happened.

Best of luck

Amsterdam

Hello all,

I recently had a discussion with a copal of farang about eucalyptus plantation. The main consensus was that you can plant about 8000 trees on 10 rai of land and then after about 4 years you can sell the trees for about THB 100= THB 800.000. Once the trees have been cut they will regrow up to 3 times. The discussion went a bit further that if you use 20 rai and only harvest 5 rai a year you could have a steady income of THB 400.000 a year for 12 years.

I am wondering what other people think about this? Are these figures possible?

Cheers

Amsterdam

Amsterdam, the figures you quote is giving a return of 20k per annum per rai.

If those sort of returns were available from eucalypt you would see 90% of rural Thailand under eucalyptus plantation.

800 trees per rai is about 1.5m spacing both ways, it could be done but the growth rate would be abysmal and the fertilizer cost to get them to grow at all would not be cost effective. As well this leaves no access for maintenance or harvesting,so everything would have to be done by hand at greater cost.

Trellis planting (1.5 m) is usually with rows 2-3m apart which only gives 340-520 trees per rai.

Reasoning would indicate that if as your figures suggest ,eucalyptus would return 100-300% higher profit than most other crops , what the outcome would be.

I have seen a few times where harvesting crews tell you they will be back in 4 years to give you 12-13k per rai for your timber but when they turn up in 4 years they offer 8-9k per rai.

Look in on a yard selling nice straight 4 year old scaffolding poles for 75-80baht each and not to forget that price includes their harvesting,transportation and profit margin gives you an idea of what you will ultimately receive, whether it is by per tree or per tonne for wood chips.

Thank you for the info. This makes me think that it might be better to stick to Rice. Looking at your figure of a return after 4 years of about 8K per rai. I think with today's prices after all expenses I should be able to clear 2K per rai a year with rice and that is similar to the trees.

Cheers

Amsterdam

Hello Gun Lovers.

Here is another update…

Since I have started this discussion My wife has purchased a shot gun for 25K which I have previously mentioned. I asked my Wife to go practice and we went to the local army base where we where allowed to shoot a copal of rounds. It was kind of funny to see because the six or seven army guy’s had never seen such a gun. One guy was shooting with a .22 Rifle and then we showed up with what looks like a cannon. Well to make a long story short My wife let them try out the shot gun and they all ended up with sore shoulders. I must admit that my wife also has a sore shoulder but I am glad she knows how to shoot it.

I was just surprised at how easy it was to go and shoot at the army base. We drove over and simply asked to use the shooting range. There was no targets or anything to shoot at so we just shot at some sticks and a soda can. I made a joke that the next time I will bring some chickens and they responded that we should bring a pig he he… I am not saying that I am going to drive over the army base with some chickens and a pig but in the end I think it Is okay to kill the pig or chicken as long as you eat it. I will probably bring some other targets to practice on the next time.

Cheers

Amsterdam

My wife has a small business that is doing well locally. We have discussed it and believe that it is time to create a website.

I am now trying to find someone to hire to do this for me. I have done an initial search of companies offering these services but I would like to hear if anyone on this site has any recomendations of companies they have used in the past and how much they paid for these services.

I would also like some advice as to what questions I should be asking when talk to these companies or pit falls that I should try and avoid.

Requirements:

1. Doesn't need to be overly fancy but should look professional (not home-made)

2. Would include approximately 100-200 pictures of products

3. Would include a online purchasing tool

4. Primary target is English speakers, but depending on the cost Thai and other Languages may be added as well.

5. Search Engine Optimization (although from what I have read this may have to wait 3 months before it can be done)

Maybe my friend can help you out. http://www.lijbers.com/ he is currently in bangkok but in a week or two he might move up north not sure.

Best of luck

Amsterdam

Hi Guys,

I need a 5-minute flash animation made to duplicate an old-fashioned MPeg movie presentation (cartoon type thing).

The subject matter is technical, and would require 3D experience (so I have been told)

Anyone out there know of any businesses able to quote?

Thanks

Maybe my friend can help you out. Check out his website http://www.lijbers.com/ just email him for the quote.

Best of luck

Amsterdam

Hello all,

I recently had a discussion with a copal of farang about eucalyptus plantation. The main consensus was that you can plant about 8000 trees on 10 rai of land and then after about 4 years you can sell the trees for about THB 100= THB 800.000. Once the trees have been cut they will regrow up to 3 times. The discussion went a bit further that if you use 20 rai and only harvest 5 rai a year you could have a steady income of THB 400.000 a year for 12 years.

I am wondering what other people think about this? Are these figures possible?

Cheers

Amsterdam

Yes i think it can be done, but prices ?, i am planting 3000 Eucas for 5 years, then i will have a rotation in crop, i have planted our first crop at 1.5 metres apart, and they are doing well, had a few die but no big deal, we will sell as pulp or scaffolding poles, there are now a lot of thais who have got into this, this worrys me a little as supply and demand, this will have an effect on the prices, we have only done this as we have spare land doing nothing.

ok but at today's prices what could you get for a 5 year old tree? thb 100? did you plant the trees near watter?

Hello all,

I recently had a discussion with a copal of farang about eucalyptus plantation. The main consensus was that you can plant about 8000 trees on 10 rai of land and then after about 4 years you can sell the trees for about THB 100= THB 800.000. Once the trees have been cut they will regrow up to 3 times. The discussion went a bit further that if you use 20 rai and only harvest 5 rai a year you could have a steady income of THB 400.000 a year for 12 years.

I am wondering what other people think about this? Are these figures possible?

Cheers

Amsterdam

Hello gun lovers,

I ended up purchasing a shot gun for THB 25.000 and for a box of 25 bullets the price is THB 900. the phone number of the shop is (02) 623-8433, (02) 623-7739. I suggest you call the shop as they will be able to explain the procedure of obtaining the gun license to you.

Cheers

Amsterdam

Thank you all for the info. I think that on Friday I will check out gun row in Bangkok. As said I can not own a gun in Thailand but my wife can. I would never dear to shoot a gun . I like the shot gun for home protection but my preference this time is for a hand gun. I have checked on the internet what gun prices are in the US and done the conversion in THB. Here is my list of preferred guns.

Walther P99 THB 25.000

Colt 1911-A1 THB 25.000

Browning M1935 THB 20.000

Beretta 92FS THB 21.000

Taurus PT92 THB 17.000

I am curious to see if these guns are available on gun row. I am realistic that these prices are not the same in Thailand but maybe I should be able to pick one up for THB 50.000.

My preferred 9mm for maximum stopping power.

9mm luger Remington golden saber box 124grain HPJ(+p) 25 rds THB 831

Winchester ranger 147 grain SXT 50 rds THB 831

I don't know if I can find this kind of 9mm in Thailand but would be great to have. Once I have seen the shops in Bangkok I will let you all know what I find out there. I will also check out the gun shop mentioned in Buriram on Tuesday if I can find it.

Cheers

Amsterdam

PS: it is not my intention to start a debate about gun's. I only would like to find out and share information on where to purchase them.

Hello gun lovers!!!

so I am back from Bangkok. I found out that most guns go for around THB 80.000+ 9mm rounds are about 40bht each but you can get discount if you buy in bulk . A shot gun can be purchased for about THB 30.000. There where a lot of stores I did not count them but must have been 20+. My next destination will be buriram to see what they sell over there.

I am starting to think that the shot gun is a better purchase as we live on 60+ rai. The range of the shot gun is further and the fear effect is greater. I have to admit that the cost aspect has to do with is as well. I think that my wifer might have to change her permit from a 9mm to a shotgun.

Well I will keep you posted on the buriram shops and what the final gun will be.

cheers

Amterdam

We (my wife and I) recently went through the process of legally obtaining a gun. I think a 9mm may be too big for your needs, suggest .38mm. I would be surprised if you can get a premit for a 9mm.

Also I would suggest travelling to Bkk to buy the gun - there is very little to choose from in Ubon, I understand.

We purchased a .385 Smith & Wesson revolver for just over Bt90K. The semi autos can be got for about Bt50-60K.

I just found out that the permit my wife is obtaining is for a 9mm and she will be allowed to carry it around concealed. I was a bit surprised about this. I should know next week if the permit is approved. I will provide more info on how she got the permit if she gets it but it’s all legal and so far only BHT 800 has been paid.

cheers

In actuality it was my wife father who suggested the idea to purchase a gun for self defense and I thought it was a good idea. No the gun is not for him and will not be made available to him.

He probably already has one,

Now let me ask you this. The land you live on and the home you live in is that in your name or your wife name? although I don't know you I would bet that most farang who live in Issan live in a home they paid for but do not own.

Correct, but a roof over your head is a basic necessity. (and the way you phrased that question is a good indicator that you have not spent that that much time here, here being Isaan)

I don't want to go off topic any more on this but I will be happy to debate/discuss this if you pm me.

I'd prefer not to thanks, I don't think that anyone should own a gun for recreational purposes if it is to be used outside of a recreational facility, you do, on that we will never agree, so there is no point.

I told you.......... .....well I'll stick to my swords.......and let my wife practise to hit bulls eye!

Now my wife dos not feel the need to go to a shooting range but is convinced that we should practice on our land (oops sorry don’t want to offend people her land). Now the land is large enough to do so but I am afraid that I will have to insist to going to a shooting range.

cheers

Amsterdam

By the way, the argument which equates owning a gun with owning land is just silly. A foreigner can legally lease land here.

A foreigner can legally lease/rent a gun at a shooting range as well. SAME SAME.

This is off topic please pm me if you want to discuss further.

And I will ask the first question i asked again .... to the OP.... why do you want a gun?

It's a fairly simple question and if you can't answer it without beating around the bush about ammo availability and questioning gun laws ..... well, you shouldn't really be allowed to have one.

I want a gun for home protection. A copal of rounds in the air will scare off an intruder. Shooting an intruder would be of last resort. But this is off topic and would rather stick to where to buy a gun what price and what model..

Given the difference in tone between your first post and then this one, please excuse me for saying that I think you are talking utter <deleted> in this instance. (<deleted> is a humorous word for testicles in English)

You want a gun because you just want a gun, and that's it really, I can practically guarantee that your wife doesn't want one for self protection and has probably filled in the paperwork under sufferance.

Copal that (sic) with the well reported facts that most crimes of house theft in Thailand occur when you aren't actually there or are asleep and don't get the chance to wake up before the deed is done, having a shotgun propped up in a corner, or in a nice display cabinet, is seriously a bad move, a really bad move.

Now please, just admit it, you fancy having a gun to shoot small furry animals and other harmless recreational purposes (sat) .... you shouldn't be allowed to have one .... a catapult will suit you sir.

In actuality it was my wife father who suggested the idea to purchase a gun for self defense and I thought it was a good idea. No the gun is not for him and will not be made available to him.

Now let me ask you this. The land you live on and the home you live in is that in your name or your wife name? although I don’t know you I would bet that most farang who live in Issan live in a home they paid for but do not own. Is this legal?

I would love to go hunting furry animals if there are areas legal to do so. I would how ever not go hunting with a hand gun. This might be a good new post to ask where this is possible.

I don’t want to go off topic any more on this but I will be happy to debate/discuss this if you pm me. For now in this forum I will only discuss GUNS and where to get them for a good price.

Cheers

And I will ask the first question i asked again .... to the OP.... why do you want a gun?

It's a fairly simple question and if you can't answer it without beating around the bush about ammo availability and questioning gun laws ..... well, you shouldn't really be allowed to have one.

I want a gun for home protection. A copal of rounds in the air will scare off an intruder. Shooting an intruder would be of last resort. But this is off topic and would rather stick to where to buy a gun what price and what model..

Any reason why you picked a revolver over semi auto? I guess the maintenance is easier, but are there other reasons?[/size][/font]

The revolver trigger mechanism cannot be fired accidentally, especially for a second shot. You really have to pull it positively and can feel when it is about to fire, I am told that the semi auto is also more likely to jam. Also, I believe, that it is easier to check if it is loaded or not. I suggest you try both to compare.

The 9mm will have quite a kick and maybe more difficult for a woman to control. The .38 slugs are quite common and cost Bt30 each.

ok thanks for the info. i will take a look at the gun..

cheers

We (my wife and I) recently went through the process of legally obtaining a gun. I think a 9mm may be too big for your needs, suggest .38mm. I would be surprised if you can get a premit for a 9mm.

Also I would suggest travelling to Bkk to buy the gun - there is very little to choose from in Ubon, I understand.

We purchased a .385 Smith & Wesson revolver for just over Bt90K. The semi autos can be got for about Bt50-60K.

There must be quite a bit of duty on handguns ,(or big margins) The S&W model 385 in .357 magnum sells for $800 US in the states.

The .357 magnum is a good choice in a revolver as it gives the option of using the magnum shell or the more user friendly .38 if a woman is firing it.

Imported guns are very expensive in Thailand. Lots of tax. The prices above sound in the ballpark according to the gun magazines I have read.

however

If you are police, or a member of the armed services you are entitled to a 60% (I think) discount off the price of the firearm.

Cheers,

Soundman.

So if I bring a police officer along I might be able to get a big discount? I might just bring one along. I will check on Friday in Bangkok if this is true.

We (my wife and I) recently went through the process of legally obtaining a gun. I think a 9mm may be too big for your needs, suggest .38mm. I would be surprised if you can get a premit for a 9mm.

Also I would suggest travelling to Bkk to buy the gun - there is very little to choose from in Ubon, I understand.

We purchased a .385 Smith & Wesson revolver for just over Bt90K. The semi autos can be got for about Bt50-60K.

Thank you for the advice. The main reason that I want 9mm is because I think it is easier to obtain the ammo. Any reason why you picked a revolver over semi auto? I guess the maintenance is easier, but are there other reasons?

Amsterdam your OP said,

I should have all the legal documents done by the end of this week to own a gun in my wife name.

You seem surprised/offended that people are commenting on this statement rather than your questions - even though you are asking people to advise you on how to break the law.

I will admit to being firmly anti-gun ownership. but that is not the point here. I am sure even most of those law abiding people who admit to supporting gun ownership would be against people obtaining them illegally.

Okay I admit to some people that this sentence could be misleading but there is nothing illegal going on. Simply purchasing a gun with permit for a Thai national.

If I only asked where a gun shop is people would have started the same conversation asking me if all the legal documents are in order and that only Thai people can own guns. So in both cases including or excluding the statement about obtaining a gun permit I will be challenged by people like you. I only wanted to give some background by letting people know that I don't need help obtaining a gun permit and that the gun is for the wife.

I hope this clears the issue up for you that there is nothing illegal going on. Simply asking about location of gun shops and the price of guns.

Cheers

Amsterdam

Yeah, that's the main point here: how can it possibly be legal to buy a gun in someone else's name and use it yourself? I'm not debating the morals of the issue, or whether foreigners in Thailand can own guns, simply that you can't just shoot someone if you're not licensed to carry a gun! I think the example of the sports club is off topic, since it's clearly not your intended purpose for the firearm.

Having a gun license is not the same as having a license to kill. I am sure that if you walk around with a legal gun it’s not permitted to just shoot and kill people. My main point of starting this discussion is not to debate about the issues around gun’s but simply to find out where the gun shops are and what the cost of a new gun would be.

How can you own a gun in your wifes name??????

If the documents are done with the wifes name on surely its her gun and you cannot touch it as you havent got a license.Also i thought that farangs cannot legaly own a gun???

That's why it's put in the wifes name..............................

So let me see if I understand this correctly.

The OP is requesting how he can illegally acquire a gun and people here are trying to help him.

I always thought that acquiring firearms illegally was a pretty serious criminal offence.

Will you be telling him how to make home-made explosives later?

I am purchasing this gun legally. Please read all the post and not just one misguided person.

I have read all the posts.

As far as I'm aware it is illegal for a foreigner to purchase a gun in Thailand.

that is why it is purchased in my wife name and not a foreigner as clearly mentioned.

When you keep saying i,you mean your wife.So you are just getting info for your wife but she has to have the gun of your choice.Everything is clear as mud now.Sounds like the gun is for you but you put it in your wifes name to get one.Is she having lessons or a professional gangster lol

I think you understand me. The main point is that I can not own a gun but my wife can. So the logical step is to buy it in her name. The application has been done in the local city and is now gone to Bangkok for approval. It should be back next week. With the official gun permit we can purchase the gun and I believe that we are supposed to register it again in the local city. It’s all nice and legal.

How can you own a gun in your wifes name??????

If the documents are done with the wifes name on surely its her gun and you cannot touch it as you havent got a license.Also i thought that farangs cannot legaly own a gun???

That's why it's put in the wifes name..............................

So let me see if I understand this correctly.

The OP is requesting how he can illegally acquire a gun and people here are trying to help him.

I always thought that acquiring firearms illegally was a pretty serious criminal offence.

Will you be telling him how to make home-made explosives later?

I am purchasing this gun legally. Please read all the post and not just one misguided person.

Thank you all for the info. I think that on Friday I will check out gun row in Bangkok. As said I can not own a gun in Thailand but my wife can. I would never dear to shoot a gun . I like the shot gun for home protection but my preference this time is for a hand gun. I have checked on the internet what gun prices are in the US and done the conversion in THB. Here is my list of preferred guns.

Walther P99 THB 25.000

Colt 1911-A1 THB 25.000

Browning M1935 THB 20.000

Beretta 92FS THB 21.000

Taurus PT92 THB 17.000

I am curious to see if these guns are available on gun row. I am realistic that these prices are not the same in Thailand but maybe I should be able to pick one up for THB 50.000.

My preferred 9mm for maximum stopping power.

9mm luger Remington golden saber box 124grain HPJ(+p) 25 rds THB 831

Winchester ranger 147 grain SXT 50 rds THB 831

I don't know if I can find this kind of 9mm in Thailand but would be great to have. Once I have seen the shops in Bangkok I will let you all know what I find out there. I will also check out the gun shop mentioned in Buriram on Tuesday if I can find it.

Cheers

Amsterdam

PS: it is not my intention to start a debate about gun's. I only would like to find out and share information on where to purchase them.