Limbo

As for the bigger electrical items many friends have bought the TV decoder boxes for 2400bht and brought those through without any issues.

Hoegaarden is one of the great examples with 40 or 45 Baht a bottle.

And Hoegaarden is not the only one! It is in good company there in Tachilek!

Some things however are cheaper at the Thai side of the border.

I don't know which brand of decoder boxes 'Sunholidaysun1' refers to but

the usual ones are 1,500 at this side (1,800 including the card that is

supposed to save you some money for an unknown number of months).

Those are the same that you buy nowadays in Chiang Rai town for 2,200 Baht.

For those among us that don't have to cross the border:

Let somebody check the delivery service.

If it is the way it was a minimum of 12 bottles might

still be brought home to you for the same price.

Limbo

PS Sunholidaysuns1: I suppose your friend was not carrying a disc as well.

They are 900 Baht here in town. Together with the decoder that would be

the price you mention.

The sticker price on the leftover my11's won't change - discounting outgoing models is something that only ever happens on a full shape change.. In any case a white pearl 2WD GT is now going to cost 1,185,000 - 135,000 more than what the wife's cost just 18 months ago- so usef value will probably hit 1M in 2012 which means about 2,000 Baht/mth to own by the time we trade it

This might be the moment to honor Mrs. MoonRiverOasis with a justified advance of at least 10.000 Baht.

Asit happens your miscalculation enables you actually to do so in a budget neutral way, as the version

of the car she uses now will cost 1,195,000 Baht next year!

Limbo

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Great story!

Thanks Jeffrey!

Limbo

Well worth the thirty thousand Baht extra I suppose.

Extra 30K? I love it! One more price increase and I'll be able to sell the Mrs' PJS for what I paid for it

A couple of weeks ago I came to an agreement with the salesman of a Mitsubishi dealership here.

Part of that agreement was that I would trade in my six year old Everest for 480 thousand.

I was surprised, because I hoped for 450 (perfect condition and only 125.000 on the clock).

His superior still had to approve it. Next morning I was told that they had expected the Everest

to be equipped with a commonrail engine which it wasn't so the offer went down to 400 thousand.

These 80 thousand Baht less value at the end of the ride reflect very well the discount I got six

years ago for buying the old model while the new one, with the commonrail engine, was waiting

already around the corner. So this time I expect the 30 thousand higher price to be stored away

more safely in the car than in an average bank.

Looking at what the buyer gets for these 30 thousand it might be very well possible that the price

gap between new and old model will be widened in December untill the old model is sold out.

A little bit like what happened when I bought the Ford six years ago.

After that Mrs. MoonRiverOasis can harvest 555! She made a good investment, that's for sure!

It is good to see that the ergonomical minus in the location of the tiptronic will be

compensated by the paddles, at least now also in the GT 2wd version.

I might seldom use them, but it's the idea 555!

Limbo

So What happened Limbo !? .....

And what are you riding now ?

It's horrible to admit Jubby but I simply don't dare anymore ...

There is a Yamaha Fresh standing here and with that I sometimes 'ride' to

the little shop at the pak soi to buy a bottle of milk , a distance

of nevertheless eight hundred meters (one way though).

The last thirteen years I transported myself in a car, like a bag of potatoes

for that matter.

My last 'real' trip was with Rudi's Chiangrai Rangers MC on a borrowed Phantom...

Can't even remember anymore how long time ago that was. I think it was the first

'farang' motorcycle club here in town.

Nice to read that people start to enjoy riding together again, though some

foreigners were already member of the Black Rabbits.

But I still regret that I didn't buy the old Virago 400 that was offered

me six years ago. It was a bargain for 45.000 Baht (including book and plates).

It would have been nice to make something beautiful of it and have a ride

on a Sunday morning once in a while.

Take care!

Limbo

But the 2wd model comes with the 4 gearbox. What do you guys think?

This guy thinks that if you wait a week or so you might see the new 2wd

version of this car available with a 5 gear box, auto and even manual.

See my earlier postings on the subject for the other new details and price.

I double-checked my info with a couple of dealers and they all expect to have

at least the brochures next week ...

Limbo

Today we were called by one of the dealerships (six of the same owner

in Chiang Rai Province) and told that the dark-blue color might only be

available for the 2,4 liter gasoline version (???).

Limbo

Sorry for all my misinformation:

The darkblue will be available for all versions! It looks good, especially

in the eyes of those among us who like blue I suppose

But only the 2,4 gasoline version (915.000 Baht) will have a manual transmission.

Nice thing is that the paddle shift is going to be standard in the GT 2wd version as well.

Further more the five gear automatic transmission and indeed the 17 inch wheels,

the aircon outlets in the ceiling, also for the second and third row, the protection strip on

the side, side turn lamps on the mirrors and some other minor frivolities.

Well worth the thirty thousand Baht extra I suppose.

Limbo

If it can be delivered in the beginning or the end of January, who knows?

But that is what these charming and enthousiastic Mitsu boys and girls

don't know yet. Just pay two thousand and wait ...

But the 2wd model comes with the 4 gearbox. What do you guys think?

This guy thinks that if you wait a week or so you might see the new 2wd

version of this car available with a 5 gear box, auto and even manual.

See my earlier postings on the subject for the other new details and price.

I double-checked my info with a couple of dealers and they all expect to have

at least the brochures next week ...

Limbo

Today we were called by one of the dealerships (six of the same owner

in Chiang Rai Province) and told that the dark-blue color might only be

available for the 2,4 liter gasoline version (???).

I can't image that they are completely un-informed, but slowly I start to wonder.

Ordering now means delivery in January is what the staff says now.

Maybe selling the remaining lot of the present version needs some more time.

I start to wonder if the brochures are printed yet.

Let's hope their mechanics are better informed 555!

Limbo

Unless something unusual happens, I am in.

Unless something unusual happens, I am out.

Greetings and I wish you a great ride.

Limbo

This picture was taken the same week my daughther was born.

She is 39 now ...

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But the 2wd model comes with the 4 gearbox. What do you guys think?

This guy thinks that if you wait a week or so you might see the new 2wd

version of this car available with a 5 gear box, auto and even manual.

See my earlier postings on the subject for the other new details and price.

I double-checked my info with a couple of dealers and they all expect to have

at least the brochures next week ...

Limbo

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The new Chiangrai Hills Stadium

a great venue for all kinds of events

Among the guests at the opening of the Chatiphan Cup Tournament we noticed some

prominent Brasilian football celebrities. Among them Eddie Pereira, former striker

of St.Gallen Switserland, now Chiangrai United, Silvio Cesar, assistent-coach of

Chiangrai United, Leonos dos Santos, coach of the succesfull Thai national team U16

that under his guidance qualified itself recently for participation in next years Asian

championship, here together with our local khun Budsawongkod Ooyuenyong, ardent supporter

of CRUTD, who many of us will recognize as their barber (opposite Thai Airways office).

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The winning team was Immanuel Fc, an Akha team from Mae Suai district of which

most members work and/or study in Chiang Rai town. Out of thirty teams they did best.

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One of the amazing aspects of the Chiangrai Hills Stadium is its gigantic, 5 by 8 meter,

screen that even by full daylight showns an incredible clear and sharp picture.

This screen will without doubt contribute greatly to the multi functionality of

the stadium.

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The tournament was well attended by the many supporters of the teams and other football

enthousiasts. The small restaurants, bars and shops did well. Though the Chatiphan Cup

maybe should be seen as a pilot project, many people voiced their hope and expectation

that it might evolve into a yearly event.

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The Pajero looks good and solid.

Yes indeed Muchogra and there are so many members of this forum promoting

it that I almost get suspicious 555!

Only one person so far noticed that the positioning of the gearlever might

be an indication that Mitsubishi expects the biggest sales of this car in

countries with right-hand traffic.

He wasn't happy with having the fourwheel lever too close to his knee and

in addition to that I think that the tiptronic should preferably be in line

with the position of the shoulder and not 'somewhere to the left'.

Also adding a carbon filter, as MoonRiverOasis already mentioned, follows

that theory. It supports the assumption that it might be a rather good car

as it not only is supposed to be one of these 'Central Plaza tractors' for

what are called the developing countries..

In January it sold better than the Fortuner as MoonRiverOasis informed us.

I have the idea that this was not setting a trend and that it, at least

here in Chiang Rai province still has som exclusivity.

Interesting to see if some first generation Fortuner adepts are going to

embrace the Pajero. Some of my friends do.

Thanks Muchagro for sharing your information!

Limbo

If I'm informed correctly there will be another change this month concerning

the Pajero Sport. Not so 'minor' actually, at least not for those among us,

who belong to the dedicated legion of manualists (honi soit qui mal y pense):

The option of a manual gearbox thus!

Furthermore:

-Five gear automatic transmissions also for the 2WD.

-17 Inch wheels on all models.

-Better aircon channels for the second and third row.

-A kind of protective strip along the sides and some chrome things.

-And those things I forgot (carbonfilter?)

-BTW: One of the things I almost forgot: also in darkblue colour.

In the third week this month (October) the introduction is said to

take place. The whole package will add 30.000 to the price.

Automatic transmission was for people who had difficulties learning

to drive. For example for women, as many would think and say.

They got a special drivers license then.

I had, after a lot of hesitation, a testride with the Pajero and I

thought it was sensational! And I'm talking about the automatic!

After driving an Everest with a manual for six years is was as if

I drove a tractor home after the testride. Hadn't I taken the

testride I might have waited for next year's new Everest.

I postponed to buy and will testride a new one, or better two new ones ...

I hope they didn't put too much chrome on it because I liked the sober design.

Thanks to all the writers of this forum to give such excellent information.

Specially I want to mention the gentlemen who (for reasons only known to them)

call themselves MoonRiverOasis and Katabeachbum.

The information I found here was for a great part instrumental in my choice

for the Pajero.

But also Thaicruze contributed greatly to the general atmosphere of the forum.

I think he brings youthfull 'elan' into the columns and his love for his car

is genuine. Even if it's not directly a selling point: it shows a good spirit!

He is an example to us all

Limbo

PS: these white Ford Escapes look good actually ...

I am a retired art and museum consultant, female, who has just moved here three weeks ago.

Nice, that makes three of us with a similar background.

I heard that you met Nonja already and that she was very pleased to meet you.

I send you a personal message with my e-mail address.

Welcome to Chiang Rai!

Limbo

Oh, and Nonja: a shock to read as it is extremely difficult to find something similar.

Don't give it up as long as you haven't seen the alternatives. They might be worse, much worse ...

I hope to see you today.

Hi Thaimiller and Chiang Mai footballfriends!

For the first time I went to see a game of Chiangrai United in Chiang Mai.

In vain, because it was the game Sunday two weeks ago against Thai Navy.

It started two hours late and lasted only five minutes. I guess thirty percent

of the field was covered with water. The game was replayed (though it lasted

the full ninety minutes this time) on Monday following and CRUTD won 3 - 0.

See the video below for the greatest disaster of that game.

I met two nice expats (!) at the game and the first question I asked was if

one of them might be Thaimiller. Which they denied

The schedule for August of Chiangrai United:

The home games of Chiangrai United are played at the 700 Anniversary Stadium

of Chiang Mai start at 6 PM. Home matches this month: today, coming Wednesday

the 17th and the 28th.

Thai Premier League

Today, Saturday 13, Crutd (11th position) plays in the Premier League against

Sriracha FC which is now in 15th position and 8 points behind Crutd.

The second Premier League game this month will take place Sunday 21 against

Sisaket Fc, that now holds the 6st position and is 3 points ahead of Crutd.

Toyota Cup

If Crutd wins the total of the two games against Thai Port (to be played the

Wednesdays 17 and 24 of this month, they will be among the last four of the Toyota Cup.

Thai Port is in the Premier League only 1 point ahead of us. They lost their last

two games and Chiangrai won its last two games. Positive outlook thus.

If Crutd manages to win the next opponent, in the semi-finals then, will be the cumulative

winner of the two games that Phuket and Pattalung play against each other. Phuket is

number 9 in the 1st Division and Pattalung is number 3 in the 2nd Division Region South.

So the way to the final lays so far relatively wide open (winner 5 m and runner-up 2 m).

Thaicom FA Cup

Sunday 28 Crutd will play against Chainat Fc in the (Thai-com) FA Cup. Chainat is now

holding the 3rd position in the 1st Division.

If Crutd wins this game, they are among the last eight and will play next in the quarterfinal

of the FA Cup. Only one game will decide which team goes that far.

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Six games in a month, the first of those Crutd won last week 4 - 1 of SCG Samut Songkhram.

This month history can be written for the third year in succession!

Please correct me if I got something wrong

Limbo

Chiangrai United got for the first time attention in the international press,

sad enough because of this incident in the game against Rainavy (formerly Royal

Thai Navy, now officially Siam Navy).

The victim is Chiangrai striker Edvaldo Pereira, the Brasilian, who in 1999 became

Swiss champion with St. Gallen en thus played two European Cup games.

The goalkeeper of Thai Navy got a punishment of three games and 24.000 Baht.

The argument for this extremely low punishment was officially that Edvaldo

had started the conflict

Haha, maybe do it the Thai style ... the indirect approach.

Tomorrow you will have the opportunity and that for many, many hours.

Just whisper it into khun D's ear and khun W will hear it loud and clear.

As far as I know there is only one museum in Chiang Khong and that

is the bicycle museum of Alan Bate. I think I once wrote about it

in this forum. Use the search function and you will find out where.

Anyhow, everybody in Chiang Khong knows him. Have a great day!

See you next week!

Limbo

PS: your little house is unique!

and your landlord too

It's the combination where the shoe pinches ...

Thank you konjianghai! I appreciate your message very much!

In the mean time I have seen a picture showing him lying in the hospital.

I saw also pictures of widows, of half-orphans ...

It is this strange look in the eyes of the children, as if they want to look through

all the people dressed in black around the coffin in which they are told there father is.

In their minds maybe going back to the moment that their father in his orange outfit

happy and enthousiastic gave them a last hug before he jumped on the pick-up with his friends.

To be brought to the buss that would transport them to Lopburi where it all would end ...

L.

Let me add that Dr. Ploum of the Overbrook Hospital was elected

senator after Khun Deng retired from politics. He was respected by

everybody as a doctor who worked day and night.

Both Khun Deng and Dr. Ploum were were independent candidates.

By the same Chiang Rai electorate they were choosen!

Many of us will know Dr. Ploum as he was the doctor of most foreigners

before the Sriburin Hospital was built.

The military coupe sadly ended his short political career.

Limbo

I like khun Samart, I met him last week at the game.

He is a very nice, kind and gentle person.

Out of politeness I won't open a book about some other candidates here.

Don't underestimate the Chiang Rai electorate! They surprised before ...

Limbo

Hey Limbo ! ! ! !

Geez; keep running into each other in many places and on many occasions,hey ?

Ha,ha,ha: do you know when a Politician is lying ? ? ? When his lips are moving ! ! !

(oh; and this is pretty much a Universal phenomena)

Cheers,

JaapFries

Wouldn't expect to see you show up here

Just to keep it on-topic Jaap:

My wife went shopping in Tachilek yesterday,

the harvest was among others Hoegaarden wit/blanche (45 Baht a bottle) and a

nice Australian Cabernet Shiraz (Pennfolds Bin 8, 520 Baht a bottle) of 2009.

I'm not sure if I can keep it under cork as long as you can

Skating isn't the only discipline in which you humble me 555!

Have a great day and success with the project, it's very impressive!

Limbo

Edit: to go on-topic for real:

Since the Chiang Rai electorate unexpectedly chose Khun Deng

(Mrs. Tuenjai Deetes) as their senator a number of years ago

I'm fully confident that we as foreigners absolutely don't have to worry

about the ability of the Chiang Rai citizens to make their choice.

I like khun Samart, I met him last week at the game.

He is a very nice, kind and gentle person.

Out of politeness I won't open a book about some other candidates here.

Don't underestimate the Chiang Rai electorate! They surprised before ...

Limbo

Gentlemen,

All football fans will cry with me.

Yes, it really looked as if we were coming to Chiang Mai to play.

We still will do, politics had its sayings.

But some of us will never come ...

They died yesterday on the way to Buriram.

The game went on and we lost 5 - 0.

I wouldn't have wanted us to win.

On the picture we see English Andy together with acharn Tjak.

Acharn Tjak was among the seven who died.

L.

Limbo any truth in the rumour that Chiang Rai Utd are to play some games at the 700 year stadium in Chiang Mai due to the lack of capacity at your home ground?

I will see if I can find out and you will be the first to know.

It wouldn't be nice for the fans though. Last Saturday the stadium

of the Mae Fah Luang University had a full house again. I would

guess that it were about 5000 to 5500 people that visited the

game against Thai Port Fc but even including the extra stands that

are set up it brings us to the maximum. We have a fantastic legion

of dedicated fans.

This stadium is about thirty kilometers north of Chiang Rai town and

the same number of kilometers more close to Maechan, Chiang Saen and

Mae Sai where we also have big supporter groups.

Our own new stadium will certainly not be ready this year (I would guess

earliest for the second leg next season) and the local provincial and

municipal authorities have their own little toy called Chiang Rai Fc that

they seem to use as an excuse for owning the stadium where Chiangrai United

played last year.

This club is hanging (for sale) at the bottom of 2nd Division region north,

so they would not co-operate unless they could get hold of a too big part

of the proceeds.

On top of that the pitch of their stadium is not in a condition that

would be acceptable for TPL games and they haven't shown themselves to

be able to change that as long as the stadium exists. The light is not

sufficient and we shouldn't forget that its capacity is even smaller

than at the MFL.

I guess the maximum would be about 4500 even if we had 6000 visitors

a couple of times last year (including those standing behind the fences

and looking for free). So the local 'sanaam kila' is not an option.

Where would the pain threshold be for our fans? 200 Kilometers is far!

It might be that the MFL is 'having problems', I simply don't know.

Suddenly the normally 'free floating' Singha draught suddenly disappeared

from the skybox because the campus is supposed to be alcohol free. I know

that it might be seen as a minor problem as it only concerns the happy few,

but it was forcing among others also me to look at the match with a glass of

water and a cup of coffee next to me. So I take that personal, grrr...

Concerning our away games (as you know most Thai Premier League clubs are

from the Bangkok and Eastern Seaboard area) we are lucky that we have a great

fanclub in that area (for info google to Kwangkrung) and maybe 30 to 40 fans

from Chiang Rai that travel these many but unavoidable 800 kilometers.

The situation around Chiang Mai Fc is far below expectation. Nobody can be happy

about that. Also not in Chiang Rai. It would have been great to have our local

derby twice a year. Will the miracle happen and the situation change the way it

did last year for Chiangrai United during the second leg? The debacle around Rene

isn't promising ...

Anyhow, if it doesn't the 2nd Division looms again and that would be unacceptable.

So .. uh .. could we speculate that a combination of resources comes to mind?

That a little test is awaiting us? One super team for the north, playing in a town

with a million people instead of a town of seventy thousand?

I hate the thought of it and I hope that Chiang Mai Fc will recover in the one way

or the other so that these hypothetical constructs don't have to pass our minds 555!

Greetings,

Limbo

PS: Please find Andy's matchreports at http://chiangraiunited.webs.com/

Brasilian Eddie made the goal against Thai Port. The great picture is made by Hualek,

the best sportsphotographer of Chiang Rai.

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Bangkok Glass versus Chiangrai United

The match can be seen live at channel TRUE 102.

For more information, among which a brilliant analyses of the game to come by nobody less than

BangkokGlassMan (aka CRAndy) himself, please see the English language Chiangrai United website:

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Limbo

Some pictures of last week, CRUTD vs MTU 1 - 0.

Don't repeat BGman's mistake! He changed shirt with a Muang Thong

supporter with a complete different posture.

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Mostly Thursdays it is movie night at Prataap Jaj

Last night they showed 'August Rush', a drama with fairy tale elements, where an

orphaned musical prodigy uses his gift as a clue to finding his birth parents.

Directed by Kirsten Sheridan and staring: Freddie Highmore, Keri Russell and

Jonathan Rhys Meyers.

Tea, Coffee or Hot Cocoa + popcorn and a movie for 50 baht!

If you contact Caty she can put you on her mailing list.

Contact details you will find in Dindong's posting.

For more information about last night, please see:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=214826515208898

It's a nice group of people in good spirit trying to do the best they can.

A good initiative, worthy of all support they can get!

Limbo

Hi Limbo, I'll take you up on the offer one of these days and come and see a game. Im off to BKK this week to watch Bangkok Utd Vs Chiang Mai on sunday, but Im also going to watch Muang Tong Utd against BEC Tero on the saturday, my first premiership game so looking forward to that. We have added a link from our wesite to your also. :jap:

Thanks dear Thaimiller!

Your excellent Chiang Mai Fc website http://www.chiangmaifootballclub.com/ is also

added as a link on our not yet so excellent website http://chiangraiunited.webs.com/

As you without doubt already know: last Saturday Chiangrai United showed itself to be stronger

than last year's national champion Muang Thong United. In all honesty I have to add that this

certainly was the case during the first half. The second half that took not less than 52 painfull

long minutes was another story. Not to talk about the last seconds when the ball finally found the

net behind our goalkeeper. A handsball preceded the shot, so it remained 1 - 0.

Last Sunday I visited Nan FC versus Kamphaengphet FC and a miraculous thing happened:

Cheered by a select group of ten foreigners of four different nationalities Nan City FC

managed to harvest its second point in ten games (0 - 0). We should go there more often ...

Chiangrai United will visit CRAndy's Bangkok Glass this weekend. It will not be easy but

also not impossible to score there. After the debacle against Rattana Bundit I only can hope

the best for Chiangmai FC against Bangkok FC. It will not be easy, that's for sure!

Good luck Chiangmai FC, susu, susu, susu!

Limbo

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Especially for those among you who sometimes want to see a real Thai Premier League

game not too far from Chiang Mai (Chiang Rai is only about two hundred kilometers)

Welcome to Chiang Rai!

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Also Chiangrai United has now an English language website. We followed the

example of Thaimiller's Chiang Mai Fan'zine! Have patience, because we are

still in the process of setting it up.

You will find us at :

http://chiangraiunited.webs.com/

We are very lucky that BGman (the English mascotte of Bangkok Glass) will cover

the CRUtd games in the Bangkok area. Last Saturday he was present in Chiang Rai though

when CRUtd showed itself to be stronger than last years Thai premier League Champion

Muang Thong United. It was a brilliant game, a spectacular event from the first untill

the rather remarcable last whistle.

Coming weekend will be difficult for him (nok song hua!):

Bangkok Glass versus Chiangrai United 555!

I feel very sadly about Chiang Mai not being able to take the points in the game

against Rattana Bundit. Did all your good players go to Lamphun?

Limbo

Our website manager, Bangkok Glass Bunny man :

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Uppdate: I just got the message that he will sit among the Chiangrai United fans

during the second half and this in his BG Bunny outfit! He will write history, this

great son of Albion!

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