somluck

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My two cents worth, of course the Thaksin led government had been elected. Of course the caretaker government had continued past the length a caretaker government was constitutionally allowed to, and there was a legal question of whether the PM had earlier resigned or not. The two legal points were never clarified iirc. Make everyone right and wrong depending on what arguement you want to stress.

You are as usual quite right.Different people according to their views will interpret evidence differently, though in this instance I would have thought there is rather limited room for interpretation.Some of us incline for democratic values for all the flaws and messiness that often goes with them.Others will look for excuses to support military coups and repression to reinforce unelected and unaccountable elites.Returning to the particular it is of course either dishonest or ignorant to suggest the caretaker government was unelected.

The ELECTED parliament was dissolved by Thaksin. Parliament elects the government. No Parliament = no elected government.

Doesn't take a mental giant to see the truth here now does it?

As I noted, some will look for any excuses to support military coups for the reasons detailed above.In this foolish example it's not worth bothering to demolish.There are some more compelling arguments but they're not articulated by this poster.

coup d'é·tat

a sudden and decisive action in politics, esp. one resulting in a change of government illegally or by force.

A coup d'état (pronounced /ˌkuːdeɪˈtɑː/ or /ku de.ta/) (plural: coups d'état), or coup for short (French for overthrow of the state), is the sudden unconstitutional deposition of a government,

I wonder why the term 'safe house' has been used. There's nothing in the article to suggest any threats against the judges safety.

Casting the reds in an evil light as usual

1992:

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrTY1WE2P7U&feature=related

Scary enough for you?

I was here all through the 1992 events and watched

it / tried to understand in detail.

The current situation is a completely different ballgame

and cannot be compared in any way with the 1992 situation.

same same...back then was the students against the military now its the peasants against the military

I was here for the military coup in 2006, which was, surprisingly enough, a non event for "fuhlangs" here. I remember the Thai governement closed the banks the day of the coup, but the next day everything seemed normal. Can't imagine there will be much to this either, excepting maybe a few Red or Yellow Shirt protest rallies, depending on the court decision. If the situation does heat up a bit maybe it will help the crappy U.S. dollar/baht exchange rate for a little while. We can always hope. Anyway, like others have mentioned, if you stay away from the colored shirt rallies, you'll be fine.

thanks for sharing, anyone who was here during the bloody songkran last year got anything to share?

Drink your tea and read your paper. 2 sugers and a pinch of salt fit's the bill! What a load of rubbish to be polite. I love a bit of civil unrest as proves the Thais have opinions they're willing to stand up and fight for. Have to remember in western countries women a blacks didn't have the right to vote and if it wasn't for a few brave people making noise it would have stayed that way. Hope no one gets shot but up with people power whatever side your on! Peace and Love!

making noise is ok, violence is not!!

fine if they want to protest and make a stand, but when the thugs come out they get no sympathy as far as im concerned

So why is the Baht gaining strength on the international money markets? If anything it should be dropping like a stone!

Maybe because of the anticipated injection of 76billion baht into the economy??

into the pockets of the elites.....

Whatever you think of Thaksin, he was the legitimately elected prime minister that was deposed in an illegal coup by the army. The Democrats were installed as a government; not elected.

If there was an election tomorrow, Thaksin's party would win yet again.

But it would make no difference as the military would stage another coup, the PAD would sit in the airport and until a non Thaksin party is 'elected'. Not forgetting the courts would throw pro Thaksin politicians into jail and/or ban them from taking part in elections.

What color shirt to wear that day would be the safest?

White skin. Both sides know Farang have nothing to do with this and there aren't going to be people on the streets looking for blood from anybody they can find.

I agree that TV should tone down the subject line of their email's. Fear mongering at it's finest to generate pageviews. Don't you care about your reputation, though? And what happens when there is a real crisis or problem and 90% of people ignore your email because it sounds just like all the others?

Advisories from 27 countries foreign ministries can hardly be called fear mongering. No country would want their citizens to get hurt while overseas. Better to err on the side of caution

What color shirt to wear that day would be the safest?

Yes the P.C. is NOT the Government ... They serve at the will of the Head of State. they can be removed at the will of the head of State. They are advisors.

Exactly right, hence the importance of not meddling in politics.The FEER interview is fascinating and it I'm afraid provides all the evidence needed that old soldiers should quietly fade away

Prem is the defacto Kingmaker, Puppet master, invisible hand.....call it what you want. He pulls all the political strings in thailand. he needs realize thailand is going thru a revolution and change now politically. his methods of old of running things are outdated

Well K. Somluck, you make some strong statements: 'puppet master', 'invisible hand', etc.

Would you like to share some details, some rational specific proven facts, specific incidents etc. But don't bother if you just to write nasty verbal invective.

Look forward to it.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/10/13...es_30016076.php

Prem is believed to have influenced the selection as his close aides, dubbed "Prem's sons", stand out in the NLA list.

Does no one care about how succesful this country could be if they work together instead of against each other? Cant the red shirts wait til the next election? When is it anyway? I think its time for a hard line with all this nonesense and give the thais a chance to find their democracy,

Yes precisely when is the next elections? But then what good is any elections when the military will come in to wipe the slate clean again when the results are not to their liking

Gambling is illegal in Thailand but I would wager more than one rai of my prime farmland in Ban Pai, Khon Kaen, that you are talking absolute nonsense.

Do not discount anything when everything is so volatile now

The bombs, the shit bags and threats are just the prelude. Do you really doubt a loose cannon on any side will not attempt something crazy when push comes to shove? Desperate times calls for desperate measures. All the situtation now needs is a spark. Remember history how world war one was started.

Time is on Thaksin's side. He is still young

But rest assured this could be the final showdown. i am banging on civil war. game on!

Game on?!!! What a sickening attitude...

Civil war has you salivating so much, i just hope one day you find yourself slap bang in the middle of one. Be interesting to know when it is your neck on the line, whether you still believe it a price worth paying.

I just hope the one he finds himself in the middle of is not only NOT in Thailand but is also nowhere near Thailand. Only an idiot would be wanting to see a civil war happen ANYWHERE. Civil wars tend to go on a long time as well as be bloodier than other fighting.

Seeing him post that makes me doubt that he is posting from anywhere near Thailand.

Bloodshed the price for freedom

Civil war is the last resort. I do not wish to see it come to this but its inevitable.

But rest assured this could be the final showdown. i am banging on civil war. game on!

Game on?!!! What a sickening attitude...

Civil war has you salivating so much, i just hope one day you find yourself slap bang in the middle of one. Be interesting to know when it is your neck on the line, whether you still believe it a price worth paying.

Not alleged. Convicted and is a wanted criminal.

Convicted by a Kagaroo court?

Foreign intel must have gathered something that the Thai authorities or newspapers aren't saying

Does this mean travel insurance to thailand will be up?

What is annoying is that every time Thaksin tweets that he farted it's front page news with a full description of smell and consistency and analysis of what it means for Thailand.

Thaksin is the saviour of Thailand. He started the revolution.

Can someone please explain why 1 million is being touted as some sort of magic number that will force the government into submission. At one million will the reds reach critical mass and become greater than the sum of their parts.

What ever happens the one thing i promise will happen is it will absolutly pi** with rain. It has done for the last few red gatherings. Don't forget your brolly Mr. Jatuporn.

In thailand's history only once has it happend before where 1 million thais were gathered at one place for a cause.

The red are trying to break this record. So what if it rains? The reds are willing to bleed for their cause, what's a little rain?

If the reds are a spent force like you claimed then there is no need for this government to be breaking out in cold sweat and thinking of hare brain ideas to deal with them. If 100 people can close donw the Bangkok Bank HQ of 3000 employees, I believe the reds are a force to reckon with.

There is no fear of the Red Shirts other than the concern on how to humanely control them if they resort to another Songran type of demonstration. On BBL, if the decision was made to clear the front of the bank, it would have been over in 5 minutes. The fact that they were allowed to remain and disrupt only shows this government is bending over backwards to keep the peace. However, if the military has to come in again, tactics will be different.

If the military comes in then that could be the spark for civil war. those generals knows it. There are alot of slient majorities who supports the red out there. The elites dun dare to risk a civil war.

Yes the P.C. is NOT the Government ... They serve at the will of the Head of State. they can be removed at the will of the head of State. They are advisors.

Exactly right, hence the importance of not meddling in politics.The FEER interview is fascinating and it I'm afraid provides all the evidence needed that old soldiers should quietly fade away

You are entitled to your opinion, but I believe that the vast majority of people in Thailand would disagree with you. (note "I believe" makes the above MY opinion)

As for somluck --- I see that not only does he not understand the role of the P.C. but he just doesn't understand what he reads either. Someone that serves at the will of the Head of State cannot by nature be considered the "kingmaker" since it only takes a word to remove him.

Everyone understands the role of the PC. Try doing a poll and see how many go with your thinking that Prem has not repeatedly meddled in politics.....

7 out of 19 is not a GREAT MANY....only slightly less than 40%.

In a listed company this gang who holds 40% stake would be termed as principal shareholders, though not they are not the majority but can hold sway over many decisions. Coupled that with the not 'great many' members of judiciary on the council (i liken this group as nominee shareholders) ....okay you get the picture

It is a large percentage -- it is not a "Great Many" and the number would more accurately be described as 4 out of 19.

Please help me out though --- what current members of the judiciary serve on the Privy Council?

This is not a company and there are no 'shareholders' to compare it with a company is not only facile, it is rather specious. They are advisors and do not "make" decisions.

I'd ask what you mean by "nominee shareholders" but not only do I think you would not answer, I think if you did it would get you in trouble. The P.C. is appointed by the Head of State to serve as his advisors.

They are mostly older men --- leaders in their fields.

Note ---- this thread is about Thaksin whining about possibly losing his cash ... there is a thread about attacks on Prem that is more appropriate to discussions abotu the Privy Council. Do be aware that talking about the P.C. is a dangerous road to tread relating to the law in Thailand and forum rules.

how can it be 4? those with military prefix before their names are not military? just need to do simple counting? pls dun try to split hairs between definitions of large percentage or great many. i think there are at least 2 ex judiciary members on the PC. many things do not need to be spelt outright, many a times Prem himself said he is not involved in politics but his innuendos says otherwise

How can it be 4? well --- if they are better known for being in Business or Government then they would be listed in that capacity.

2 former jurists --- you suggest that it is bad to have people that have served in the courts in the past? But former jurists are NOT members of the Judiciary. They are FORMER judges.

Again the members of the Privy Council are appointed by the Head of State. Yet again you need to tread very carefully on this topic because to suggest that the P.C. is political is not a wise thing to do.

i know Surayud Chulanont is best known for his capacity to shoot and kill unarmed student protesters.

i am stating that military and judiciary are under all under one roof like the situation now how the 2 institutions are working in concert to rid and purge thailand of any thaksin related elements

Yes the P.C. is NOT the Government ... They serve at the will of the Head of State. they can be removed at the will of the head of State. They are advisors.

Exactly right, hence the importance of not meddling in politics.The FEER interview is fascinating and it I'm afraid provides all the evidence needed that old soldiers should quietly fade away

Prem is the defacto Kingmaker, Puppet master, invisible hand.....call it what you want. He pulls all the political strings in thailand. he needs realize thailand is going thru a revolution and change now politically. his methods of old of running things are outdated

Didn't Thaksin make his fortune before entering politics? If so what right does the current government have to sieze his entire fortune?

He has always spent other peoples money.

His ex-wife's money was the starter (she had rich parents)

That's also why she divorced him to save her funds.

Sondhi in partnership. Took his money then kicked him out of the company. Then it went Bankrupt.

Then he took money from government to buy land, selling & buying property,companies without tax.

Even the guy who was busted with bringing cocaine back from overseas (name I can't mention) did a house/land deal with Thaksin cause this person got it for nothing.

Thaksin will still have lots of cash because he gave it to others to keep for him, son, daughter, his limo driver, gardeners, even a housemaid.

2billlion US is not a big loss for him.

You really needs maths lessons. First you cannot count from 4 to 7 then now you say 2 billion US is not a big loss? Even if you are the world richest man, 2 billion US is not small change