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I was not offeneded at all, 62 years old believe me I know I'm a terrible writer.

I will try a better explantion then maybe we can just let this die because it really is not worht getting upset over.

Here in Thailand we just lost anther Government through the courts. It has been all over the paper that all the different parties were trying to gain the PM position.

They finally had an election, the PM was elected. However until there is Royal Endorsment there is no PM in the country. In the intrem the country floats along on existing laws. But really no one has the power to OK anything that would be out of the normal government operations only the PM can do that

The farmers were blocking road all over Thailand in an effort to gain financial support for their crops. So for those past few days there was no one who grant the Farmers wishes as the Royal endorcement had not been done yet.

Now as a farrang if I understood that it seemed to me that the people complaing that no one was talking to them, surprised me. I thought they would know no one had the authority at that time to help or talk to them.

Welll we have a PM now and someone can talk to them now.

That's the full explanation.

See told you not worth the fuss, beleive me I was not offended at all. Actually feel bad about getting people upset at all.

You know guys sometimes jokes just don't work this was one of those times.

Just meant to be a lighthearted moment and nothing more, not worth the fuss, Next.

Funny reread makes perfect since to me.

Farmers were protesting a government that didn't exist as no one had been made PM yet and wondered why no one was talking to them from the government.

Does that help

Maybe you had to be there

Signature stays

For the past few days the farmers have been blocking roads in Kingdom to protest and make demands.

The highlight was to today around 1400 hours when the farmers in Chaing Rai were complaining that no government officials had came to talk to them.

Now wouldn't have been kinder instead of running the news story to just tell them till the proper documents had been executed.

That might have better luck next week when there was someone to talk to them

If I hear of someone coming from Bangkok I will let you know.I'm sure the Harley Ditributor from Bangkok will come maybe yuo can hook up with them. They have a authorized dealer her in town. Seem to make all the major events. I don't think they will miss this one. The Nagas may or may not attend haven;t heard from them yet. Good group of guys. I think they are based in Chon Buri, they have a web site.

I live in Udon Thani the last one was two years ago. everthing is written in Thai and they don't get infromation out in Englsih. I live here and had to chase it down. But I went two years ago at the last one and it was great. Had Caribou performing they put on a great show. Lastt time we did a ride over the mountian between here and Sri Chaing Mai. had lunch in Nong Khai. Maybe 600 bikes. Hey worth the trip.

Easy to get here once yuo get out of Bangkok and onto to two, how to get out of Bangkok I don't have a clue. If yuo decide to come. Me or someone from the ride list here can meet you adn get you where you need to go. Just let me know. By the way we have nothing to do with the event. Just helping out others as we have been helped in the past.

Your welcome doen;t do justice to the event I wa told how terrible it wa for years. But I had a gfreat time the event was free this year, just hd to buy your own food and drink, good selection of food. I will be going back, it was great. Kudo's to the Northern Comets they did a great job

This is about the most complete list of hotels with costs and phone numbers I have found. I have experience with the Irish Clock, Ruy Suk Mansion, the Karen Hotel and Charoen Hotel. I found the all to be good. The best value in my mind is the Ruy Suk. But to each his own

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Udon Residence Sponsor

Telephone: 081-6013353, Tel/Fax 042-343296

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Address: 9/3 Chert Sombat Road (nr clock circle), Maakaeng, Muang Udon Thani (next door to udonmap.com office).

Price: From 450 per night

Email: Email Udon Residence

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/udonresidence

Facilities: Quality studio and standard rooms for rent from 450 to 950 per night. Studio apartment includes kitchen, and living room, all other rooms contain cable TV's, hot showers and wireless internet. Great location walking distance to mall. (daily rates only)

Map Ref: M11

Distance from Mall: 500m

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City Lodge Sponsor

Rooms: 10 rooms

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Telephone: 042-224439 01-2625896

Address: 83 Wattananuwong road, Udon Thani

Price: From 500 per night

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/thecitylodge

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Restaurant, accommodation, bakery, bar, wood pizza oven

Map Ref: P11

Distance from Mall: 400m

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BB Resort Bungalows For Rent Sponsor

Telephone: Miss Bpun - 081 - 735-6447

Miss Sae 0811-772-077

Office phone & fax - 042 - 241160

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Address: Nongsamrong Road, Nr Nong Samrong Golf course, Udon Thani

Price: Bungalows for rent from 550 per night (special rates for long term stays)

Webpage: www.bbresortudon.com

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Fully furnished & serviced bungalows, Air con - Cable TV - Hot water , Swimming Pool - Tennis Court - Gym, Bar & Restaurant - Laundry - ADSL in rooms, Peaceful relaxation garden

Map Ref: G1

Distance from Mall: 6km

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Silver Reef B & B Sponsor

Rooms: 18 rooms

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Telephone: (042)-344-081 Fax : (042)-344-128

Address: 338 / 8 Prajack Rd. (Soi Rangsun) Meung Udon Thani 41000 ( Beside the central bus station )

Price: From 750/850 per night with morning cofee or tea

Webpage: www.silverreefudon.com

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Nice and clean room with modern facilities, wireless internet, central location 100 meters from the Train Station.

Map Ref: O12

Distance from Mall: 200m

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Udon Thai House Sponsor

Rooms: 15

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Telephone: 042 204014 Fax 042 204234

Address: 9/9 Moo 2, Tambon, Nong Bua, Muang, Udon Thani

Price: 600 - 1,800 baht

Webpage: http://www.udonthaihouse.com

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Swimming pool - bar - restaurant - car rental - airport transfer - wireless internet

Map Ref: Y18

Distance from Mall: 4.5km

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Aussie Pub Guest House Sponsor

Rooms: 5

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Telephone: 06-1086359 09-2527129

Address: Behind Paolo Memorial Hospital, Udon Thani

Price: 400 baht per night

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/aussiepub

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Cable TV, Air-con, Mini Bar, Full room service, Internet access

Map Ref: P11

Distance from Mall: 500m

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Pakalang Mansion Sponsor

Rooms: 55

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Telephone: 042-321-222 or 081-753-9417

Address: Behind Makro Supermarket

Price: from 290bt per night

Webpage: http://www.udonmap.com/pakalang

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Cable TV, Air-con, Mini Bar, Full room service

Map Ref: U17

Distance from Mall: 2km

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The Bamboo Garden Guest House Sponsor

Rooms: 5 rooms (2 of which are private poolside chalets)

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Telephone: Phone: +66 (0) 42 295229 Fax: +66 (0) 42 207575

Address: 542 Soi 10 Moo 2, Nongsung village, Udon Thani

Price: Rooms from 300 baht per night

Webpage: http://www.udonmap.com/bamboogarden

Facilities: Swimming pool - Private Rooms and chalets for rent - Massage service - Bar - restaurant

Map Ref: 14km's south of Udon's ring-road (see map on their website)

Distance from Mall: 17km (Taxi service from airport or city 300 baht)

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Top Mansion Sponsor

Rooms: 50+

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Telephone: (66)42-345015-17 ; (66)01-9202271 ; (66) 07-9238383

Address: 35/3 Sampantamit Road, Udon Thani

Price: From 350 baht per night

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/topmansion

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Finest quality mansion with rooms for daily, weekly and monthly rent

Map Ref: P11

Distance from Mall: 200m

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Irish Clock Sponsor

Rooms: 10

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Telephone: +66 (0) 42 247450

Address: 19/5-6 Sampantamit Rd, Makkang, Muang, Udon Thani

Price: From 850 per night

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/irishclock

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Finest quality rooms with all modern amenities, wireless internet access, UBC sattelite TV and free breakfast for daily, weekly and monthly rental. (Guest friendly & very central location)

Map Ref: P11

Distance from Mall: 300m

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Jingjoes Apartment & Bar Sponsor

Rooms: 10

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Telephone: 042-223442 - 07-0526470 - 06-7165235

Address: 321/1 Soi Srisoonthorn Nittayo Road opposite Phosi Post Office and NB Hotel

Price: 4,500 per month or 350 per day

Webpage: http://www.udonmap.com/jingjoes

Facilities: Bar, restaurant, motorbike rental, fully furnished apartments, wireless internet ADSL

Map Ref: R16

Distance from Mall: 3km

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Jingjoes Resort Sponsor

Rooms: 10

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Telephone: 08-15452526

Address: 321/1 Soi Srisoonthorn Nittayo Road opposite Phosi Post Office and NB Hotel

Price: From 5,500 per month

Webpage: http://www.udonmap.com/jingjoes

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Fully furnished brand new apartments with all modern facilities

Map Ref: See map on website

Distance from Mall: 3km

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Ruy Suk Mansion Sponsor

Rooms: 30+

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Telephone: 042-325533 Mobile : 081-0547267, 085-7561818

Address: 249/1 Adunyaded Rd , Amphur Maung Udon Thani 41000

Price: From 340bt/day 2,300bt/week 9,300bt/month

Webpage: http://www.udonmap.com/ruysuk/

Facilities: Bar, restaurant, hot showers, cable TV, ADSL, parking, Gym from 25bt per day

Map Ref: O8

Distance from Mall: 1.5km

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Fuzzy Ken's B & B Sponsor

Rooms: 4 rooms

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Telephone: Tel 086-011-4627

Address: Prajak Road, Muang, Udon Thani 41000

Price: From 220 per night

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/fuzzykens

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Nice and clean rooms with modern facilities, restaurant, bar, car hire

Map Ref: 018

Distance from Mall: 400m

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Faa Ruang Sponsor

Rooms: -

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Telephone: Tel: 042 237185 Mobile: 081-3920682

Address: Udon - Nong Bua Lamphu Road

Price: From 600 baht per night

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/faaruang

Facilities: Lake, forest, private dining huts, camping ground, restaurant, campfire, gardens

Map Ref: Province map D4

Distance from Mall: 17km

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Castle Howchow Beach Resort Sponsor

Rooms: -

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Telephone: Tel: 0-4325-2619, 08-9417-8504

Address: Castle Howchow Beach Resort, 429 Howchow Road, Amphur Kranuan, Khonkaen 40170

Price: -

Webpage: www.castle-howchow.com

Facilities: Private chalets, pool, beach, gardens, ponds, live music, lake garden, club house

Map Ref: Province Map E6

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Englishmans Retreat Sponsor

Rooms: 9

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Telephone: 08-45 125 025

Address: Nr Nongsamrong Golf Course

Price: From 300bt per night

Webpage: www.englishmansretreat.com

Facilities: Studio appartments, pool, gym, restaurant, bar, pool table

Map Ref: G1

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Jan Condotel Sponsor

Rooms: -

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Telephone: Tel. 042-329-223-7

Fax.042-329-259

Address: 102/17 Soi Sansuk, Srisuk Road. Maakaeng

Muang, Udon Thani 41000

Price: -

Webpage: http://www.udonmap.com/jancondotel

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Finest quality mansion with rooms for daily, weekly and monthly rent

Map Ref: H10

Distance from Mall: 1.5km

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President Hotel Sponsor

Rooms: 79 rooms

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Telephone: Tel. 042-327777 Fax. 042-329177

Address: 253/3 M.7 Amphor Rd, T.Markkaeng. A. Muang. Udon Thani 41000

Price: From 700bt per night

Webpage: www.presidenthotelthailand.com

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: fully equipped rooms, wireless internet, swimming pool, massage and spa, international restaurant, secure parking

Map Ref: J17

Distance from Mall: 2km

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APW Resort Sponsor

Rooms: 30+

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Telephone: Tel. 08 479 17799 Fax: 0066 (0) 42 39 62 62

Address: Tha Yom,Sang Sawang, Amphoe Nong Saeng, Udon Thani Province. See Udon Thani Province Map (D5)

Price: From 650bt per night

Webpage: www.apw-resort.com

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Motel, Swimming-Pool - Snooker (5 Table),Football - Bowling - Fishing-Park, Little Church, Restaurant

Vip-Room A/C - Music and karaoke

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Mono Place Sponsor

Telephone: Tel 081-9642828, 072-342300,342301,342302

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Address: 131 Thongkhamutit Rd, Maakaeng, Muang, Udon Than

Price: From 300bt per night

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/monoplace

Email: -

Facilities: Fully furnished rooms with A/C. All modern amenities. 300 - 350 nightly or 3,900 monthly. 24 hr security with parking. Daily cleaning service. Wireless internet in every room

Map Ref: O15

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A1 Guest House Sponsor

Telephone: Tel: 042-347-955 Mobile: 085-0149004 (Thai), 083-3600502 (English)

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Address: 153 Moo 2, Soi Khlong Chonraputan, Baan Luam, Muang Udon Thani 41000 Map Ref B11

Price: From 280bt per night

Webpage: www.udonmap.com/a1guesthouse

Email: [email protected]

Facilities: Fully furnished rooms furnished with air con, 21" TV, hot water, fridge, wireless internet, bar/shop and restaurant.

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Charoensri Grand Royal Hotel Sponsor

Rooms: 255 rooms

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Telephone: 042 343555 042 343550

Address: 271/5 Tikattanon Road, Udon Thani

Price: 1,200 - 28,500 Baht

Webpage: Charoensri Grand Royal Hotel

Facilities: Swimming pool, gym, live music, buffet, airport shuttle service

Map Ref: O11

Distance from Mall: 100m

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Ban Chiang Hotel Sponsor

Rooms: 149

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Telephone: 042 327911-29 Fax 042 223200

Address: Mukmontri Road, Udon Thani

Price: 900 - 1200

Webpage: Ban Chiang Hotel Udon Thani

Facilities: Swimming pool, gym, karaoke lounge, buffet, air-port transfer

Map Ref: I11

Distance from Mall: 2.3km

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Charoen Hotel Sponsor

Rooms: 241

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Telephone: Tel 042 248155, Fax 042 246126

Address: 549 Phosi Road, Udon Thani, Thailand 41000

Price: 600 - 800

Webpage: Charoen Hotel Udon Thani

Facilities: Pool, disco, karaoke lounge, buffet, airport transfer, live music

Map Ref: O13

Distance from Mall: 700m

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Napali Hotel Sponsor

Rooms: 252

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Telephone: 042 347444 Fax 042 347447

Address: 572 Pracha Raksa Road, Udon Thani

Price: 800 - 5,000

Webpage: Napali Hotel Udon Thani

Facilities: Pool, gym, sauna, massage, disco, bar, buffet, airport transfer

Map Ref: E11

Distance from Mall: 3.5km

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Karin Hotel

Rooms: 130

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Telephone: 042 320515-9

Address: 37 Watthana Nuwong Road, Udon Thani, Thailand. 41000

Price: 400 - 900

Webpage: -

Facilities: Buffet, airport tranfer, restaurant

Map Ref: N9

Distance from Mall: 1km

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Ton Koon Hotel

Rooms: 115

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Telephone: 042 326336

Address: 50/1 Mak Kaeng Road, Udon Thani, Thailand. 41000

Price: 600 - 1,200

Webpage: -

Facilities: Buffet, karaoke, live music, massage, airport transfer, restaurant

Map Ref: K9

Distance from shopping complex: 1.8km

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Udon Hotel

Rooms: 50

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Telephone: 042 222330-2

Address: 81-89 Mak Kaeng Road, Udon Thani

Price: 400 - 800

Webpage:

Facilities: Airport transfer, restaurant, massage

Map Ref: K9

Distance from shopping complex: 1.8km

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Udon Airport Hotel (Sleep Inn)

Rooms: 120

Telephone: -

Address: 14 Moo 1 Nong Bua Lamphu Road, Udon Thani

Price: 500 - 1,200

Webpage: -

Facilities: Restaurant & bar

Map Ref: C17

Distance from shopping complex: 5km

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Siri Grand Hotel

Rooms: 145

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Telephone: 042-324514-9 Fax 042- 205030

Address: 12 Ban Chang Road, Udon Thani

Price: 350 - 900

Webpage: -

Facilities: Restaurant

Map Ref: K6

Distance from shopping complex: 2.5km

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Paradize Hotel

Rooms: 134

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Telephone: 042 221506 042 221956

Address: 42/29 Phosi Road, Udon Thani

Price: 200 - 500

Webpage: -

Facilities: -

Map Ref: O14

Distance from shopping complex: 850m

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Charoensri Palace Hotel

Rooms: 70

Telephone: 042 242611-3

Address: 60 Phosi Road, Udon Thani

Price: 450 - 900

Webpage: -

Facilities: Massage

Map Ref: J11

Distance from shopping complex: 2km

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Chan Muang Resort

Rooms: 33

Telephone: 042 243815

Address: 302/1 Udon-Khonkaen Road, Udon Thani

Price: 400 - 500

Webpage: -

Facilities: -

Map Ref: Province Map G7

Distance from shopping complex: 6km

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Mitpracha Palace Hotel

Rooms: 30

Telephone: 042 244522

Address: 371/2-3 Prachak Road, Udon Thani

Price: 140 - 390

Webpage: -

Facilities: -

Map Ref: P12

Distance from shopping complex: 400m

King's Hotel

Rooms: 148

Telephone: 042 241444 042 221634

Address: 57 Phosi Road, Udon Thani

Price: 180 - 330

Webpage: -

Facilities: -

Map Ref: J11

Distance from shopping complex: 2km

Queen Hotel

Rooms: 30

Telephone: 042 221451

Address: 6-8 Udon Dutsadi Road, Udon Thani

Price: 120 - 240

Webpage: -

Facilities: -

Map Ref: M13

Distance from shopping complex: 800m

Gecko Villa

Rooms: Entire Villa & private pool

Telephone: 01-9180500, or 07-0088134

Address: -

Price: Rates from THB4,500 all inclusive.

Webpage: http://www.geckovilla.com

Facilities: Entire Villa & private pool

Map Ref: -

Distance from shopping complex: 30km

Nong Bua Residence

Rooms: Awaiting further details

Telephone:

Address:

Price:

Webpage:

Facilities: Luxury appartments

Map Ref: R15

Distance from shopping complex: 3km

Chaiyaphon Hotel

Rooms: ?

Telephone: 042-221913,042-222144

Address: 209/11 Makhaeng Rd, Udon Thani 41000

Price: ?

Facilities: -

Map Ref: -

Distance

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I reserve the right to be wrong, mispell words type badly. leave words out of sentences because my mind works faster then my fingers. To be an OLD GIT I've earned it

Me I get hotel info and proceed with caution. Look for the where the sites are and travel there on my own.

Been helpful, but beyond that no experience with them.

I had great luck on my trip to Mae Hong Son, with the Gtriders maps both the Golden Triangle amd Mae Hong Son loop. They show where the hotels are but no phone numbers.

If yourfirst timer in that area definelty recommend them.

I'm still wondering where all these discounted hotels are?

I thought that was a part of the plan, but I haven't seen any as of yet.

I will be writing a ride report but it's huge project still editing 2K of photos. I plan on giving my experience with the hotels I stayed at and phone number price ect. I have a bad back so the quality of the beds mean a lot to me. All I'm looking for is a good bed, western toilet and this time of year, hot water for showers.

Most of the places that I stayed at and were really confortable for me were in the 800 baht range.

I see the forum now has a hotle listing site so maybe that will be helpful.

It was funny he least expensive place was 240 baht, it did have a shower, one located in the middle of the complex. The beds were certainly firm enough concrete would have been softer. Thai Toilet try that with seven bad discs in your back LOL

They got even at dinner no kitchen so the went and got dinner for the four of us. BBQ chicken rice and mixed vegetables. 1K baht 2 Klms to the village could have purchased it all fror 200 baht. I don't think I will let a Thai book something for me agian

There is good value around but very difficult to find on the net.

Actually when I deal with TAt I give the price range I want to pay and that is what they give me. Not hard just got to e-mail Bangkok

I will put it out to the Udon ride list, looks like a mid week so have no idea.

What city are yuo guys leaving from? Guess it would be a good idea to read the postings huh, leaving from Sisaket sorry.

Finally new bikes in Udon,

Yong Yontrakarn Co Ltd

It's located across from Ratacahbat University not far from the Circle

042-244900

He currently has the following bikes in stock.

250 D ttraker price 149,900

The Klx same Price

Nijna 250 R 144,900

No 900 Vulcans in stock he can deliver in a week. Unforntunatley no financing available

These are new bikes with good books

He is builidng a new service center adn will haev the proper equipment adn trained Mechanics to take care of them,. I donlt know him but his brothre owns PP motors and they are good people so I hoping he will be the same or I woudln't post this

Bloomberg interviewed a Deputy Miniter from the TAT this morning, it was pathedic. The question what are you doing to bring tourist back. Answer we are offering special deals to Thai's travling in the country. spent two mins on it. Only the thing about tourist special spa deals maybe 15 seconds No mention about double pricing sorry they just don't get it. It's a good plan to encourage locals to travel. But as to foriegn tourist I didn't see much of a plan at all.

Now let me say I have I used TAT's services many times for travel plans they are great tell them what you need they will mail it to you free. But they are not getting the picture on this one.

You know if you want a golf vacation well then pay the price for a great resort. But, if your like me and d riding you need a place to rest and clean up not much more really the activity is touring not Spa treatment Ect,

Mae Hong Son we piad 300 baht a night but were qouted 1500 baht a night for the hut experience. You know 800 and I might have went for it. We spent a wonderful night in Chaing Dao with the hut experience. But excellent food. A good experience 845 baht the Nest. I would go again.

Now keep mind you this is in the time frame the airports were shut down. All the massage places had reduced their prices, don't know what they normally are but an oil masage for 200 baht written on a piece of cardboard. That is 50% less then what the normal charge in Udon is.

We took a boat trip to the Karen village normal charged 1250 and worth every satang with the guide that we went with. Problem the lady who sold us the pacakage went through this big explanation of how I had to pay 250 baht more then my wife. Well maybe that doesn't mean anyhting to a foriegn travelers. But I have lived her for six years. I explained to her in Thai that it was not right to do that. She dropped my price down. To be honest 1250 was a fair price for what we got. So I tipped and made up the difference.

I spoke with the lady before not to say things like that unless someone aked. They just don't understand prejudice. Try telling a black man in the states that he has to pay more because his skin is a different color and watch what happens.

I told her sees a lady wih a farrang standing in front of her she knows already the farrang is paying just give them the price for both of them. Don't break it down. They just don't understand it's insulting. Now these were really nice people and I will use them again. But I have been here long enough to understand not everyone has. Here in Udon they double price they lose a customer forever. But we went playing tourist and I accepted that before I went out the door.

The sad thing it's National policy and a really bad one right now. I love Thailand it's my home but the have a lot to learn about being really good hosts.

Lot of guys formn the Udon Ride List on it.

I'll strat working on it soon and then will post what I find.

Intereting time to be tightening immigration rules, I actually thought it might go the other direction. But perhaps they believed there would be no economic fallout in Thauiland. At the moment everything I read say's tourist are giving Thailand a pass this year. Things may have changed drastically since these changes were considered and actuallu implemented. I would not be surprised to see many more changes in the near future. But going in the other direction. But hey I have been wrong many many times.

Hey Pikey missed you in Chiang Mai you going to make. to the Udon Bike Week?

Sorry didnt; see this till I returned from the trip. No suggestions for payment. But the trip was really great I did see 125's doing it.

It's worht doing I will be going again sometime in the future. I suggest you pick up maps from Gtriders Both the Golden Triangle map and Mae hong Son Loop. We used bpth but it was an eleven day trip. Which included two bike weeks. The most expensive things was the romm they ran from 300 baht to 845 Baht per night. Since we only did a few hundred Klms per day never paid more then 240 for fuel. Dress warm it is seriuolsy cold there.

They do have places to rent bikes in Chaing Mai and just start the loop from there. This was my first explaration adn I haev a lot more to see. Whcih definely will do.

I'' do a trip report later hve about 2 K of photos to go thriugh and decide waht to us.

So it will be a while.

Mail it works from one Postal Hub to another done it twice now, no problems at all. On the recieving in the drop a card at the house you address it to they deliver a card saying that person has a package at the Post Office.

Trucking them around for 700 Baht I don't think so.

They do a vrey carful inventory at the shiping point including any scratches ect. Like I said twice now and as far as I am concerned this the only way to do it.

Well it is confirmed for February 6th and 7 th 2009 to be held at Nom Prajak Park.

The contact registration numbers are.

085-045-7871

081-320-7908

081-965-2997

I asked the big bike shop about Hotels but Gigio was still in Chaing Mai so no one was sure.

I will say this about it not a really a bike week guy as of now there are two that I would repeat Cahing Mai and Udon.

I will parked at home or a while so if you want me to gather hotel information and I can get some sort of idea how many people are planning on coming I will see if I can search out some good deals based on the number of rooms.

I have became very rlictant to book rooms for for people so I will post the the hotel information and contacts number and yuo can book your own room.

So let me know if you are planning to attend from out of town.

I will then start checking things out.

Well heres is what gets me, if you went to Citi Group and got a loan would it be on thie terms or yours?

First 25 Billion not retrictions. Thats insane.

They are getting a loan form us, should be on our terms or they should be declined just like they would decline yuo, if you didn't agree to their terms.

That how the banking business works, from their angle.

I don't see how the tourist industry can't be effected. People are trying figure how to save their homes, put food on the table, pay bills. Not exotic vacations.

It's not just thailand it's everywhere. Increase in tourist published in a Thai paper, think about it.

Not hard to find conflicting stories in the same day and even in the same paper.

This is really the land of Smoke and mirrors.

Well for what it's woth guys I happy that I settled here six years ago, git the major stuff out he3 way, no way would I try to do the same thing today.

The restrictions apply to the second 20 Billion, not the first 25 Billion

Eat now pay later. Ok I will buy that certainly a serious situation.

My complaint what they do with first 25 billiion, bought addtional assets. That is cmpletely differnt thing.

They werre in such a hurry the first tiem around there were no pretections built in and that meant business as usual for Citi Group. Business as usual is done until there is a recovery.

That is what angers me. I really hope Obama realizes what Paulson did.

They were given 25 billion to increase luiqidity and flow back into loans. What did they do with it aqusitions.

Today another 20 billion.

Free enterprice my Butt, my chidren and their children are paying for this.

What would you do you loaned a friend who had problem and he he misused the funds?

You know what socialism may be bad thought. But it's up the the American Government to tell these guys my way or the highway.

None of this money should be going out without absolute controls and management changes, simple as that.

These entities have proven time and again that they are abusive. Don't want the controls then get your money from somewhere else not my family.

This was my biggest fear from the beginning.

I am surprised there hasn't been more violence already, but the week isn't over