AleG

11 minutes ago, Spectator2020 said:

Good post balo 

 

IF the Thai cops wanted to have something that vaguely resembles a proper trial where everyone has a chance to have their say they would get Ricky Collins extradited.  He should be easy to find.  The guy’s not a terrorist!

 

Just like our friend AleG they probably want a botched trial where the boat driver gets a small slap on the wrist and the absent foreigner can be blamed but never given a chance to have his say.

 

And then everyone forgets this tragedy ever happened. 

 

I'm not your friend Ian, why don't you don't come clear and stop this little farce of yours? Three fake accounts on a single thread is a bit too much, even for you.

45 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Hmmmm, 25 posts, member for a week and all in this thread?

My guess is that TV is not taking their stories to publish on the forum so he has to resort to a farce like this.

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

Yarwoods credibility took a hammering months ago.

 

Samui Times have some nerve publishing a picture of a medic trying to save life after the hatchet-job they did on him last month. I hope their sponsors picked up on it.

spectator2020 is Ian Yarwood, and so is Norinfo and KerryK.
Yes, he is that shameless.

I found that solder flux paste works quite well in removing a rubber coating gone bad, just use a paper towel to rub it in .

I have no problem with anger being expressed. It is an emotion and get it out. Abusive on the other hand is for control,when reason is gone. Abusive posters want control and when they have no other way they abuse.

i think simply ignore abusive post ,no response no value in doing it.

Some guys live their lives being angry and abusive not only on the internet in all communication with others. I have met a few since coming to Thailand.

The problem are not the abusive posters but the enablers, by giving "likes". Without them the abusers have no platform. They just start another forum with the likeminded.

You are quite right, in another forum I saw a particularly trollish and abusive TV member (among like-behaved people) writing in all earnest about their trolling and abusive posts here: (from memory) "we do it so we get likes and that makes us feel good about ourselves".

I think many play it up for the peanut gallery, and eventually completely lose the plot.

This seems to be a calculated move to try to drive a wedge further in, like the Monty Python bit on the Holy Grail, with the obnoxious peasant getting on King Arthur's skin and then shouting "Help, help! I'm being repressed! See the violence inherent in the system!" when told to shut up; except not funny, of course.

After reading the posts on this subject I am wondering what the problem is with some TVF members. Why is that some rubbish others and attack them mercilessly despite their posts being legible, articulate and presenting a reasonable discussion. Why do some appear to condone past atrocities, never offer a legitimate argument, decry other's opinions and appear to want to revert to the good old days? Or, as a last resort, attack the poster, not their opinion. Why is it that some give the impression that if they can't beat you one way, they'll try another, is it because they are unable to articulate an opinion of substance and, in turn, try to shut down the argument they know they cannot win through factual accuracy.

They never acknowledge past crimes, negligence, corruption or blatant lies used to conceal nefarious activities. It's as if these acts never happened; they praise those who don't deserve these accolades and just rubbish everything regardless of whether is it bringing criminals to justice, reducing corruption, stopping political murders, the killings of innocents on all sides and, for almost 12 months, bringing some peace and stability to those in all walks of life. It certainly gives the impression that one is dammed if they do, or dammed if they don't.

Many seem to forget that "Rome wasn't built in a day" yet despite everything that is being put into place, albeit slowly, they continue on in a most hateful and denigrating way, never offering a solution, just posting negatively, changing or twisting words and criticising all and sundry. I have spoken to Thais, some who present negatively, others positively however, on here, it's many foreigners, not all, who are always negative, no matter what, so may I ask, what do they expect to accomplish by ridiculing and complaining and posting in such an inane manner?

My guess would be that it is overcompensation for unresolved self esteem issues.

I have a question or 2 for the Suthep supporters.

Did he give the green light to the military to use deadly force on the people?

When was the last time in your country did the Deputy PM with the ok of the PM give the green light to the military to use deadly force on protesters with a similar death toll and it was ok, justified, and no case to answer?,

Is there any equipment, tool, technology out there that is affective in combination that is NON-LEATHLE that could have cleared the protesters over the same time frame?

And lastly Just what is the maximum number of innocent protesters, emergency volunteer's, and journalist's deaths in ok or justifiable to use deadly force to put down the few violent radicals?

Now the challenge for the supporters for the masquerading monk is to answer each of the questions and not deflect, spin, or just BUT BUT BUT the man in Dubai drivel.

The order was to fire on armed people, very similar RoE to regular police, no armed people, no orders to authorize the use of live ammunition. Simple as that.

If you want to see how security forces respond to armed men firing back there are plenty of examples, latest I could refer to is the killing of three hostage takers in Paris earlier this year, or the killing of a gunman in Sydney not long ago, or going back some time I could refer to Waco, Texas, etc, etc... The point being is, you shoot at security forces, you become fair game. Again, simple as that.

Non-lethal means were tried before, that stopped when the MiB (and regular "Peaceful Protesters") started using live ammunition against security forces, and these "few violent radicals" were mingling freely among protesters, acting behind their barricades protected by their smokescreens. When you have people aiding and abetting criminals they become complicit to the crime. If on top of that they behave like imbeciles like the "Peaceful Protestors" in this video they have no-one to blame but themselves if they ended up getting shot:

Now you go behind a barricade and point a metal tube at soldiers that have been on the receiving end of M72 grenade attacks and see how well you fare, or do like the moron pretending to fire an automatic weapon after setting off a string of fireworks. Surprise surprise, one got shot, if it wasn't their intention they surely did out of sheer stupidity every single possible thing to get an "Unnarmed Protestor" shot at.

By the way, take note of the child being used to set off the launching tube that, again, could be very easily taken for the barrel of a grenade launcher. If that kid would had ended up death whose fault would it had been?

You want to see what become of the attempts to use non-lethal means? at 0:43, that thing the guy is using to fire rockets is the nozzle from a water cannon truck dismantled by the "Peaceful Protestors".

oh look out….here come the koh tao bashers/tv detectives/fantasists……the same few names that have been none existent the last few months when 'Pattaya' & 'Phuket' have been in the headlines DAILY……fortunately for KT its geared up for younger tourists so it will never have to deal with the likes of most of you that comment here..the lack of girly bars will be a deciding factor in that seeing as i bet thats the only option for the majority of you guys.

why can't you just be grateful that after all the bad press thailand has received lately that its still ranked highly of places to go…kind of proves that its not all that bad….after all you came her and continue to live here…so must be better than home.

There are plenty of other islands and beaches in Thailand that are by far more beautiful than Koh Tao, PLUS: they won't kill you, unlike Koh Tao. You don't get the point here, Frank82384742, the reason why all those Koh Tao bashers, detectives, etc. are upset about this piece of s(deleted) was voted number 1 is that absolutely everything on that island is wrong, starting with any structure or building there is since there never were land titles, building permits, etc. and because the first people settling on that island were murderers, rapists and drug dealers hiding from police, eventually having that island and each inhabitant who had the bad luck to arrive later in a tight stranglehold, taking hostage not only the infrastructure such as water and electricity, but murdering any person that would get in their way (in the most lucky cases only your business would go up in flames), raping and/or murdering beautiful girls who would not succumb to the divine charisma of their male offspring, just like Hannah... The fact that such an island gets a number one vote shows clearly that tourists obviously have no eye for real beauty, can't distinguish between a messed up party island and a natural gem (like Koh Kradan, Koh Lipe, etc. on the west coast), plus the fact that they seem to give a toss as long as everything, including drugs, is easily accessible so they can get comfortably numb... and this, Frank2756244, this makes me and the Koh Tao bashers angry!

So, what makes you angry is a fantasy you choose to believe in, brilliant.

I think the murders of 2 Brits on Koh Tao have been blown way out if proportion.

2 murders, 1 young girl's death from natural causes {possibly drugs}, and a French guy possibly suicide, in my mind does not make Koh Tao the "Death Island" the "Murder capitol of Thailand" or "the place one goes to if they have a death wish."

It is still a beautiful place to visit.

Name any place in the world and there will be crime stats that will show it to be dangerous.

People visiting Thailand need to be more concerned with wearing their helmets on motorcycles than with being murdered.

If you are happy to hang out with murderers and rapists, your mind is a place I don't want to be looking into.

And there you go, blowing it all out of proportion.

Where do you live, where do you come from? Let's look at the stats from there.

I realize you never let any opportunity to malign Thais and Thailand pass you by, but one horrible incident doesn't make for an island full of murderers and rapists.

As you can see some people have whipped themselves into a blind frenzy of irrationality regarding the murders in Koh Tao; no amount of facts or reason would affect them.

April 10. MiB allegedly attacked soldiers with heavy weapons as they try to disperse the protesters. At the time it's claimed the soldiers used only rubber bullets. Autopsies later show that the soldiers who died were killed by rocks. Autopsies show most of the protesters were killed by live ammunition.

Following the wikipedia link you should be able to find a quote from Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situation and army spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd from a media source we are not allowed to quote talking about being attacked by sharpened sticks and rocks and of how the soldiers died.

Not denying that there were armed men who were at the protest sites. However as I said it seems strange that these numerous, highly armed militants didn't cause any casualties to the soldiers they "forced" to escalate the violence.

We know that after retreating, soldiers left a lot of weapons that the protesters seized. The use of violence from the red side after April 10 can't really exonerate soldiers for their actions on that day and so I would argue is irrelevant to the discussion of who is largely to blame for the casualties.

This is one of the "rocks" exploding among soldiers:

https://youtu.be/3tpyjV1ROso?t=35s

Is it a prerequisite to become a Red Shirt sympathizer to abandon all pretense of honesty?

over ninety deaths documented

5 soldiers, one from friendly fire

2 police officers

the rest were protestors, journalists, aid workers and civilians.

Everyone can look at the numbers and decide for themselves if the government & military's response was appropriate or not...

The point of the MiB was not to have a fair fight, the point was to get urban warfare going in order create as many "martyrs" for Thaksin's political machine to feed on as possible.

On April 10th they opened fire across the Red Shirt protest area to attack the Army, that is a move designed to cause as many deaths and injuries as possible, those are not the actions of people seeking to protect the crowd, those are the actions of people seeking to create a bloodbath.

"blackshirt militants" = government false flag operation to provide "justification" for the use of deadly force against unarmed civilians

Where are the dead blackshirts and where is the direct evidence linking them to the protesters?

Except that this would NOT benefit the army.

Redshirts fold and go home when confronted with army force is a win.

Blackshirt Ringers within the redshirt ranks, kill army leaders on the field,

cause chaos and fear in the uncontroled in the army ranks and probably

shoot a few redshirt pawns to enrage the reds in the street would then

bring back memories of student uprising of '70's and would be a psyco-political

weapon against the Dems ongoing. As they have obviously used it since.

This benefits Team Thakisn's aims, not the other sides..

The killing of Romklao in particular puts the kibosh in the false flag conspiracies by vague "elites". I can only imagine that the people that peddle that sort of nonsense really have no clue over what they are talking about.

My question is: With all this photographic and video "evidence", why is it that not one single MIB has ever been identified or arrested?

You haven't been paying attention?

BANGKOK: -- Five members of the so-called mysterious “Men in Black” who battled with troops at Kok Wua intersection near the Democracy Monument during the red-shirt protests in April 2010 resulting to the death of Romklao Phuvatham have been arrested by police.

In case you haven't, or would rather have history rewritten, this is what the "Men in Black" were up to on that day:

Hilarious photoshop fail!

It's not a "Photoshop fail", it's your denial kicking in; you have proven yourself to be incapable of accepting facts that go against your biases.

thaksin supports were around before the UDD, but the UDD / red shirts did not exist before the 2006 coup.

Their network did exist before the coup. Same people, different name. When the anti-Thaksin supporters took it to the street, before the 2006 coup, they were already under attack from this group. They beat up children and elderly (attack on PAD on August 21, 2006 at Central World), attacked and laid siege of the Nation Tower (newspaper) by the 'Caravan of the Poor'. Thaksin's political machine had already mobilized his motor taxi gangs that formed his intelligence and intimidation on the streets of Bangkok. There have been fierce battles between PAD security and those motor taxi boys (including shootings).

The seeds of what later was united in the red-shirts/UDD was already there, even when he was PM. They did his dirty work, intimidate his opponents.

Nattawut, Jatuporn, Veera et al were already Thaksin stooges before the coup, the Red Shirt thing was just a re-branding of the same Astroturfing operation.

Yeah right post it on Facebook give me a break, nobody's that stupid.

It's not as if there aren't precedents for impatient gloating, like this:

"Don't go near Suthep today Kotee team brought "kanom" from the border, wait for their return via expressway"

"Kanom from the border" refers to weapons; after that post the PDRC march was ambushed on the expressway resulting in one dead and several injured.

I'm not going to speculate as Thai officials do, but I just wonder if some "Red" faces are involved in this!

BP reports the man used the "M Redshirt" username to make the threats.

On the basement level of Fortune Town mall there's a shop that sells quadcopters; not a big shop or a lot of choices but it is very accessible by MRT.

For more variety you should go to Saphan Lek, near China Town, let's see if linking to Google Maps works.... https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=13.746649,100.504001&hl=en&sll=13.745774,100.504829&sspn=0.004304,0.005987&t=h&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=17&z=17

You can get there by taking the MRT to Hua Lamphong station and then walking East along Charoen Krung road for 20 minutes, not worth taking a taxi since there's usually a traffic jam.

The other thing you could do is pick up an issue of RC Action, or the other Thai R/C magazine that I can't recall the name right now... They have many advertisements for shops selling multirotors and everything else. If anything you could browse for what you want, take it to the shop and ask if they can find it for you.

Out of curiosity, what is the brand of the compressor? Is it portable?

I have a few Thai dive instructor friends, one running a DC here in Bangkok; I could ask them to get tanks filled, but as I said carrying them along is a hassle, much better to rent near the diving area.

coltri....yes it is portable, but heavy.

I had no luck with coltri in Thailand....

Thanks, I checked their website. Something to keep in mind for the day I move closer to the sea.

5 pages about stickers ? What a waste of time.

I bought a fridge 4 years ago , the 5 year warranty sticker is still there , maybe that's why Thais keep them , just in case....

No balo, it's not about the sticker, the sticker has nothing to do with it.

It could have been any one of a vast number of things that Thais do and Thai bashers pick on.

Who cares what people do with their bloody fridge stickers, and why would you bother starting a topic picking on it ?

I leave mine on the appliances and will continue to do so while it gets up the nose of moaning Thai bashers.

It's like a Rorschach test, isn't it?

Propellors are made of relatively soft pastic and engines have no power only speed.

I got bitten once, resulting in four stitches on my right wrist. That was with a plastic, 10" propeller, using a flexible propeller adapter that gives if it hits something; I also use carbon fiber propellers and those are significantly stiffer than plastic, a carbon propeller mounted with a rigid adapter can cause serious injuries, but to completely cut a finger off it needs to be a relatively large multicopter,.

The risk of injury is very real and that is the reason I never fly over people or in urban areas, anyone who does is, IMHO, acting irresponsibly; at least for anything over 300 grams of weight or so.

I don't dive often enough to justify buying a compressor, although 2000 Euros is a lot less than what I've seen locally; then again, I've bought a lot of gear I hardly ever use so there's that...

yes the local prices are a complete rip off. 2000 Euro is a brand name one from Europe. The smallest of the regular one. (there are some super small one which might be cheaper) for 300 bar.

You need to add a backpressure valve, and best an additional filter....Both costs very little. Filters you can refill yourself so almost no costs. Such a small compressor I would only run inside aircondition as it tends to get too hot.

But that is minimal costs.

What I have seen from Thai diver....they know the thai staff at the DCs. They give them the tanks and get them delivered as full back at very low costs, no invoice so I think they pocket the money themself.....

I think an own tank is something like 8-10.000 Baht (I imported some steel tanks....which are stupid heavy.....stupid idea)

Out of curiosity, what is the brand of the compressor? Is it portable?

I have a few Thai dive instructor friends, one running a DC here in Bangkok; I could ask them to get tanks filled, but as I said carrying them along is a hassle, much better to rent near the diving area.

I tried twice to rent tanks to do shore dives and had no luck, once in Koh Tao (ended up paying 5400 for two dives with my girlfriend, ouch...) and once in Trang, when I wanted to do shallow dives around Koh Lao Liang. Actually in Trang it seemed I could talk them into renting but I couldn't make it to the shop and back in time to catch the boat.

I've thought of just buying a couple tanks and be done with it but then I will have to wonder if I can get a place to refill them, plus the hassle of lugging the things around.

As for the shore diving, the one at Koh Tao was OK, went to the Three Rocks site (I think that's the name), and it was nice to have it all for ourselves. Or at least it was nice and relaxing until I noticed my strobe fizzling like an Alka Seltzer, had to thumb the dive 40 minutes in and swim back to the beach with an eye out for incoming boat traffic.

Besides that I've seen people doing shore dives at Similan island No.4, the one with bungalows. There's a small rocky peninsula right next to the beach with a very nice reef around it, there seems to be another divesite on the opposite beach, but you'll have to trek several hundred meters through the jungle with the gear to get there (didn't seem to deter a Russian couple I met there)

Sure they'll find all kind of bogus reason why not to fill your tanks. But you can it the the Thai way....speak with the Thai staff.....

Or buy a compressor....I'll have one sitting in Khanom (a bit far for you, and not running at the moment, just stored.....). The trick is to import it yourself from Europe. In Thailand they are crazy expensive + they lie about their import tax costs.

I paid 1 % declaring it as compressor. As sporting good it might be more. But a compressor is a compressor and HSS code says compressor....

Was 2000 Euro + need some minor modifications for a cheapo compressor, maybe another 200 Euro. Refill material and oil costs almost nothing in Thailand (can get from me, if you ever need).

I don't dive often enough to justify buying a compressor, although 2000 Euros is a lot less than what I've seen locally; then again, I've bought a lot of gear I hardly ever use so there's that...

As far as I can tell, he came into it after people in CSI LA pointed a finger at him based on this:

"Well, the reason is because "Nom Sod" and his friends had posted comments on CSI during the time that Sean leaked out a statement that he was being threatened and bullied by the mafia. In many ways, this allowed Admin and people on CSI LA page to see the suspicious behavior and we were able to recognize the close similarity in the physical features of the suspect betweem the CCTV video and "Nom Sod"

They didn't like the things he said about the issue and decided that it was him on the CCTV video even though no facial features are visible.

In short, vindictive rumor mongering.

I think the csi reference to nomsod was after the police had already said they were looking for a guy in Bkk. At that initial stage , when mon was arrested nomsod name had not been published. It was a few days after mon arrest that nomsod name was released.

Again my question.

What caused the police to initialy suspect nomsod.

Pol Lt Gen Panya said a second suspect, who fled the resort island to Bangkok, will likely be taken into custody soon.

He said both suspects were captured by CCTV cameras and the police have gathered enough evidence to implicate them in the murders.

http://www.chiangraitimes.com/koh-tao-murder-suspect-arrested-another-on-the-run.html

24th September.

Last time I checked a calendar the 22nd of September (the time Sean McAnna's incident hit the news) comes before the 24th or 23rd.

Suspects mean suspects, the evidence didn't pan out, they were cleared, end of story; happens in all crime investigations, the difference is that in this case the police made too many details public during the course of the investigation.