Martouf

This is a neutral blank form I downloaded in May 2009, can't remember from where but probably from the website of the Department of Employment.

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thanks - this is the one I found on the web. Although it makes no reference to alcoholism which is referred on the guidance notes from the MoE - to be sure I may ask the clinic to just write it on and sign

I am trying to find an example of the current medical certificate that is required by the Labor office when applying for a work permit - all of the examples I have found do not refer to the blood group but I thought this now has to be stated - can the doctor just write it on the certificate??

My local clinic only seems to have what I think is the old version and I want to make sure I take the correct form.

Does anyone have an example of a medical certificate under the current rules

I will be applying for the work permit in Nong Khai if it makes any difference.

many thanks

WP forms are in Thai, with English translation. Normally you complete your own details in English and the employer submits the details in Thai.

thanks Mario2008 - damn this may delay things again given it is thai time here !!!!

I'm getting confused and maybe I missed the point somewhere.

The guidance states certificates not in English have to be translated into Thai - that's ok. The next sentence then refers to "forms" being completed in Thai - are they referring to the WP1 application form being completed in Thai?? I thought it can be submitted in English ?

thanks in advance

I may have a similar problem

I am going to submit my WP1 application for a work permit (teaching) on monday in Nong Khai however I thought they just keep a copy of your passport not the original - the reason I am concerned is because I was intending to then go to immigration with the receipt from the labor office to apply for a 12 month extension of my non-b visa

do I have a problem ?

Labour will not keep your passport, they just need copies of the pages of concern

excellent, thanks

I may have a similar problem

I am going to submit my WP1 application for a work permit (teaching) on monday in Nong Khai however I thought they just keep a copy of your passport not the original - the reason I am concerned is because I was intending to then go to immigration with the receipt from the labor office to apply for a 12 month extension of my non-b visa

do I have a problem ?

It appears you do not have any valid reason to extend so 7 days would be all you can obtain. No issue leaving for a tourist visa or visa exempt entry until you can obtain paperwork to apply for work permit - once that application is made you should have enough paperwork to obtain a new non immigrant B visa from a local Consulate.

I may have a similar problem - in the past when I had my non immigrant O visa I could get an extension of 60 days based on my children. Would immigration extend the non immigrant B visa by 60 days based on my children whilst the company paperwork is being sorted out ?

thanks

Yes, you may be eligible for this one off 60 day Extension of Permission to Stay, however the Labour Dept in some areas do not accept the 60 day National Police Order 777/2551 2.24 Visiting Thai Spouse or Child as a valid extension basis for issuing a Work Permit and you may thus need to get a new 90 day Single Entry Non Immigrant Category 'B' Visa outside of Thailand before your WP will be issued.

Case 2.24 is not an extension of your non B per se, it is an extension on a new basis and in this case some Labour Depts regard the original Non 'B' Permission Stamp as spent.

I get on well with Nong Khai immigration and they have issued the 60 day ext several times before on a Non - O (it was easier and less pages used up in my passport rather than going over to Lao).

Assuming I was able to apply for an extension of 60 days at immigration and the labor office was ok with this ie that the original non B was not spent as such; would immigration be able to then issue the full 12 month permit once the work permit had been accepted and I had the receipt - this may be during the 60 day extension; whose knows it's Thai time!!!

BTW the job will be teaching English, letters from MoE are no problem and they will write what I need ( I help them with their English) - However do you or anyone else have any experience etc from the Labor Office in Nong Khai re the above.

I think may be going off topic, if so, I apologise, let me know if I need to start a new thread/subject

many thanks

It appears you do not have any valid reason to extend so 7 days would be all you can obtain. No issue leaving for a tourist visa or visa exempt entry until you can obtain paperwork to apply for work permit - once that application is made you should have enough paperwork to obtain a new non immigrant B visa from a local Consulate.

I may have a similar problem - in the past when I had my non immigrant O visa I could get an extension of 60 days based on my children. Would immigration extend the non immigrant B visa by 60 days based on my children whilst the company paperwork is being sorted out ?

thanks

I got a multi entry non-imm O from Birmingham by just using birth cert and copy thai passport - this was yesterday.

I thought I would share this information - the rules may be changing or as is often the case different information is being given by the consulates making it more confusing when applying for a visa.

I have a thai girlfriend and a thai son who is 11 months old. I was always told by friends in thailand because of my son, even though I am not married, as I am named on the birth certificate a multi entry non-o should be no problem.

I telephoned Hull last week to be told they received orders recently (within 2 weeks) to no longer issue non-o visa's unless married to the mother or have sole custody of the child !! the fact I'm named on the birth certificate and visiting family(my son) made no difference. I could have a tourist visa though!! TV not a problem but I didnt want that.

However I telephoned another consulate (Birmingham) and they said no problem to the multi non-o. I included birth certificate thai and the translation together with his thai passport - no problem !! it goes to show try more than one consulate !!

whilst very confusing, staff at both consulates were very helpful and friendly

Should add my son now has his uk passport, but I didn't have a copy to send off with the visa application on thursday - (application submitted at bkk in person on 18/11 and arrived back 13/12, I was quite impressed!)

What does everyone think to this plan ?

My wife found out the local nurse and her police bodyguard husband want to sell 10 rai of land (8 rai of rubber, remaining two rai have two ponds and half built house). The trees are Rim 600 and they reckon are producing on average 260kg per month (therefore based on 75baht a kilo approximately 20k thb) - they want 1,400,000 thb - she has seen the land and has sent pictures

The land is near a village by a main road in Isaan, Nong Khai is about 70km, Phon Phisai 24km - if any locals are reading the place is called Nong Kwai/Nonsumlan

I quite liked the idea as there was a small income now (family can help with rubber) and I could sit and fish with my wife selling fish together with other food - we have a son (both uk and thai passport) and the plan was for the land to be in his name

initially I was told by my wife that the land had a chanote, no, and I am grateful for the son of the "sellers" for being honest in email - it is Sor Por Gor 4-01!!

I know full well that this title deed cannot be sold etc.... it is government land still at the end of the day, under any future land reforms the title right may change but there is no guarantee of this .

they want to arrange a power of attorney and sale contract and then we all go to the headman etc... they are named on papers despite the fact they purchased it from the original family 10 years ago, I thought this was odd. My view is a sale contract when they have no right to sell is not worth the paper is it written on.

my wife thinks most of the farm land around where we are have similar land titles - would you risk it ? have any TV members paid for such land in the villages and have had problems ?

if it was say 500,000 thb maybe it is worth the gamble but at 1.4 million when in theory they have no right to sell it is way overpriced.

my gut feeling is to walk away

what does everyone think

IF you are looking for some land for sale not too far from Phonphisai I have some for sale

I am selling for 40,000 baht a lai, have some with chanote some with out.

George, are you still selling land near Phon Phisai ?

If Anton has not bought it PM me

I thought that you had to apply for the passport in the country the child is in ? He only has a thai birth certificate and not a consular one so it would look odd and questions could be raised as how did he get into the UK

Has anybody tried to get a child a passport from the UK when they are not in the country ?

thanks

IF you were in Thailand you would have to just show your passport.

Just go to the Post Office in the UK or one of the Places that you can get it done within one day at, easier for you, less hassle.

I recently applied applied for my 7 month old son UK passport in Thailand but have now received a letter stating

please provide

1. father passport (original)

2. Mother passport (original)

3. child's birth certificate and translation

... and sent everything back including part of the fee !

I am English and my wife is Thai and before leaving Thailand I posted the passport application form to Bangkok after checking the website for exactly what documents they require and sent

- my full UK birth certificate (original)

- child's Thai birth certificate WITH English translation (original) - I am named as the father and he has my surname !

- obviously the application form and 2 photos all correctly completed together with the fee

As a back up I also sent a copy of my UK passport photo page (countersigned), wife's Thai passport (countersigned), Blue book with son named (countersigned), copy wife's Thai ID card (countersigned)

Before I sent the application I telephoned the helpline (that you have you have to pay for!) and they said that was fine yet I receive a letter today requesting ORIGINAL passports !! as for the birth certificate they had it !!

Unless I have missed something where does it state on the website that I have to submit my original passport - my passport number is contained in my son's application form - it is the new style and they can check it quite easily !

As for my wife's original passport - WHY- my son gets UK citizenship from me

If I was in Thailand no problem but I am now back in the UK - before I send letter of complaint about the level of service and different advice given has anyone got any comments. I really do not want to fly back to BKK to submit the documents in person. In any event if I go in person do they keep my passport and send later to my thai address ? if so, how can I get on a plane to Nong Khai !!??

thanks

As you are the father and not the mother I don't think it matters if you are married to another person, but the British emabssy can answer your question better than me.

Registering the birth at the Thai amphur will not result in you becoming the legal father of the child under Thai law. You cna try to become the legal father by registering the birth of the child together with the mother, but in all likelyhood you will need to petition the court to be recognised as the legal father.

thanks Mario2008 - I think I better re-read your pinned advice

I have emailed the embassy and will post their response - although because my g/f are I are not married, the baby is illegitimate which is covered since the change of the rules for nationality since July 2006 - although one explanation is it the same form if baby born before or after 2006.... and therefore the question of whether you are married to the mother is relevant

my thai g/f is due to give birth early January, I have read the posts and the forms that are required to be completed to register the birth at UK embassy in BKK

The one thing that concerns me is on the registration forms it asks whether the parents are marriage ....... or if they have been previously married, if so, send evidence of the termination of the previously married of either parent......

This is where I am concerned I may have a problem ...... I have been separated from my (ex)wife for 3 years but we have not actually got around to getting divorced - does this cause a problem registering the birth ? In my view it shouldn't since the change in the law in July 2006.

I will be registering the baby birth at the amphur and know that my name is on the pink baby book

many thanks

thank you everyone for the advice - I will check with my local hospital for the midwifery charges and go from there. I go back in 4 weeks and will try to decide on the best type of visa to apply for - although realistically applying for a settlement visa towards the end of August could take months by which time it is unlikely she will be able to fly.

sorry added the topic twice and do not know how to remove !!

Sorry if the information is already posted - I have been looking for ideas for the past 4 hours !

scenario is:

I have been with my thai g/f for 2 years - she was given a 6 months tourist visa (on second attempt) and went back to thailand on 21 March 2010 (visa expired on 23 March) - I went back for songran to see the family etc.... and she is now pregnant, baby due around 6 Jan. We are both happy about the baby and are trying to decide on what to do now in terms of, do I move to thailand or does she come here to live - ideally my wife wants to have the baby in England and be around my family (strange I know!). She does now own a house and some land in her name, details not in last visa app.

1) Am I correct thinking for a further tourist or fiancee' (with intent to get married) visa you need to wait at least 6 months from when you return to thailand to reapply? therefore around 24 Sept ?

2) if they know at the time of application you are pregnant the chances of being granted either visa is remote or no chance !!! ? - assume all other factors ok, i.e income and intent to return.. and complied with previous visa

3) I know the formalities to comply with to ensure that the baby has dual nationality assuming the baby is born in Thailand, once the baby has a uk passport, is it then better to apply for a visa for my g/f at this stage ?

4) Assuming she was granted a visa, the sign of her being pregnant can leave to her visa being revoked at this end ?

........ any other (sensible) ideas ?

thanks

Assuming you have to wait for 6 months, say 24 September before reapply

Sorry if the information is already posted - I have been looking for ideas for the past 4 hours !

scenario is:

I have been with my thai g/f for 2 years - she was given a 6 months tourist visa (on second attempt) and went back to thailand on 21 March 2010 (visa expired on 23 March) - I went back for songran to see the family etc.... and she is now pregnant, baby due around 6 Jan. We are both happy about the baby and are trying to decide on what to do now in terms of, do I move to thailand or does she come here to live - ideally my wife wants to have the baby in England and be around my family (strange I know!). She does now own a house and some land in her name, details not in last visa app.

1) Am I correct thinking for a further tourist or fiancee' (with intent to get married) visa you need to wait at least 6 months from when you return to thailand to reapply? therefore around 24 Sept ?

2) if they know at the time of application you are pregnant the chances of being granted either visa is remote or no chance !!! ? - assume all other factors ok, i.e income and intent to return.. and complied with previous visa

3) I know the formalities to comply with to ensure that the baby has dual nationality assuming the baby is born in Thailand, once the baby has a uk passport, is it then better to apply for a visa for my g/f at this stage ?

4) Assuming she was granted a visa, the sign of her being pregnant can leave to her visa being revoked at this end ?

........ any other (sensible) ideas ?

thanks

Assuming you have to wait for 6 months, say 24 September before reapply

Thanks for all the advice guys. I really want to have a baby with her and we had planned to marry next year after a couple more visits for her in the UK. We needed to know if she could live in the cold and adapt to the culture without turning into a recluse. I'm still not sure about this. I just want her to be happy and to live a full life. She's only 23 (I'm 27).

I love her and she loves me. I'm naturally sceptical and inquisitive enough to know she really does now but the time is not right to have a baby. Yes I know you can never be prepared enough or have enough money but I want my baby to stay with both parents every day. To learn everything about both our histories. For both of us to see the first steps and hear the first words. But if I cannot earn enough working in Thailand to live there and she has not proved to me that she can be happy long term in England then I can't be sure our baby would have a chance.

Take the next few days for instance. I really don't like being outside in this cold and I've lived and worked in it for a long time. She would struggle to get out of bed in a morning, never mind go outside the house in it. She just hibernates. What sort of life is that?....

You have a good positive attitude .. I am sure it will all work out for you. Best of luck to you

Shamus,

I am now in a similar situation - I know your post was sometime ago.... but, how did it go ? - did your g/f get a visa whilst pregnant and was the baby born in England,. did she stay and like it ?

thanks

Any hospital can do it, but if you want direct link to a doctor review the pinned thread and perhaps contact one of the posters.

PDA clinic is, however, best (and certainly least expensive) option provided she is still very early. No branch in Udon that I know of but I believe one in Korat and of course Bangkok.

Thank you for the help - everything is now ok - the PDA were helpful although as a word of warning you need to make sure that girl has someone with her on the day you go and also to look after her afterwards

Any hospital can do it, but if you want direct link to a doctor review the pinned thread and perhaps contact one of the posters.

PDA clinic is, however, best (and certainly least expensive) option provided she is still very early. No branch in Udon that I know of but I believe one in Korat and of course Bangkok.

This is my first post so I am sorry if the information is already somewhere in the archives.

My thai GF is pregnant and much to my surprise is considering an abortion because she cannot cope with idea of having a baby at present. I am ok with this - I love her and will look after her regardless.

As I understand the position to be, provided two doctors agree that the women's health/life is at danger they will agree to the abortion, but can anyone recommend a licensed hospital or clinic in the Udon Thani, Bangkok or Pattaya.

I know the area is rather diverse but due to the stigma that can be attached she does not want her family to know. I have done a search on past posts and have the telephone number for the PDA but I would be grateful for any help in finding a good place rather than telephoning or emailing numerous hospitals out of chance.