ragpicker

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If allowing bikes on “fast” roads, they must be capable of driving at the correct speed, otherwise they are nothing but mobile hazards.

Which is why they build m'bike lanes on the side of expressways here.

   What "m'bike lanes"??  Are you referring to the expressway shoulder or emergency lane?  If so, then yes this lane is used by lunatic motorcycle drivers, and it's two way traffic!!  Cars/pick-ups also travel against traffic on this emergency lane.   One of the first steps to reduce deaths in Thailand would be to stop anyone using this emergency lane, other than police, ambulances, and personal vehicles with problems.

  Mityon in Pattaya corner of South Road and Soi Buakhow had/has two Xmas scooters today/8-Nov.  One yellow one black.  Unfortunately I was told told the price has already shot up 7,000 baht from 168,000 to 175,000 baht.  Must be us rich farangs driving the price up as usual.

1 hour ago, Badrabbit said:

Upholstery man can do easily.

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  From what I recall when I looked at the Xmax, there was very little foam you could cut away to lower the seat.  Maybe 1 inch/25mm.

 Strange, in the country where the vehicle horn should be used more than any other, it is usually silence due to the fits of rage expected from  the offending motorist.  

2 hours ago, MrJ said:

what Mityon shop are you talking about? I have been corner 3rd Rd./South Pattaya Rd. which mentioned show model not for sale order only......

  South Road/Soi Buakhao.   Smaller Mityon.  The one on 3rd road is the biggest of the Mityon's in Pattaya.  

Across the street from the shop I visited (which sells a mixture of bikes) is another Mityon that I believe sells only Hondas.

3 hours ago, Ahnsahn said:

I am confused,

not clear about what you are trying to say, can you help me understand the point(s) you are trying to make?
- What do you mean by, ' seat height issue'? What seat height issue?? Are you saying you did not buy the XMax 300 display model because the seat height is too high?

- What do you mean by, 'I assume Mityon would have replaced it with another one fairly quickly'.   ???

    Guess you haven't read the previous posts Ahnsahn?   Yes, the seat height is an issue for many shorter people, most Thai's, including my wife who cannot sit on the Xmax with her feet touching the ground.  This is putting me off purchasing until someone comes out with a lower aftermarket seat (or Honda brings out an updated/nicer Forsa which already has a lower seat).

   Because the guy selling the Xmas at Mityon yesterday told me he could get any color in 2 days, I figured there is no problem getting these bikes.   Well, apparently that guy has his head up his butt.  I passed the same Mityon shop today and the yellow Xmax was already sold.   I asked another seller there when she expects another Xmax and she replied "three weeks, maybe less".  I'll update here again if & when I see another one at this Mityon shop.

10 hours ago, MrJ said:

i was there as well - asked and was told don't know delivery time but at least 2 months, same at Yamaha main dealer Watchara Sukhv.

 I could have bought the Xmax on display yesterday (yellow & black) and would have if not for the seat height issue.  I assume Mityon would have replaced it with another one fairly quickly.  

  Today was in the Pattaya area of South Road and Soi Buakhao and passing the Mityon dealer there I spotted a Xmax.  Out of curiosity I asked the sales guy the price (confirmed 168,000) and the lead time if I was to buy.  His reply was he could get one in two days, any color!! 

  I find that claim of selling of 150 Xmax bikes a day at Bitec extremely/impossible difficult to believe.  That's almost 16 bikes an hour every day!!  In the 15-20 minutes I was in the Yamaha area I saw no buyers.  I was there Tuesday afternoon and the overall crowd for the event was not much.

  I can't see Thai's lining up to purchase a bike many cannot sit on, in addition to being put off by the price tag, which is reasonable to me but not to many Thai's.

   You don't see many Thai's driving the Suzuki Burgman 200, or the Honda Forza.

22 hours ago, idman said:

For this Ragpicker's info. it was called the Executive in the U.S. market and it did have heated grips. I oughta know I rode one for two years.

    Uh, for your info idman, I was referring to the Burgman 650 I was looking at..., at Bitec!

8 hours ago, idman said:

Now that Xmax300 is what a scooter in that cc. and price range should look like. Gorgeous bike and I am very happy the seat height will eliminate most Thai blokes from owning one. Once again Honda have let Yamaha steal their thunder. Your mention of 380K for the Burgman 650 got me thinking as prior to moving to Thailand I had the 650 Executive model for my commute in the Bay Area. ABS, heated grips, electric adjustable windscreen and moved like a bat out of hell. The only competition then for this 650 if it is indeed the Executive would be the Yamaha Tmax530 and the BMW 650 GT or 650 sport but those cost over 550,000K

  I don't think they called it "Executive" but it had ABS and adjustable windscreen.  Not sure about the heated grips, but I wouldn't really care about his feature here.

2 hours ago, Trikyle said:

I’m 177 cm in height and if I’m sitting back on the seat , I tippy toe to the ground, which is fine by me, but for anyone shorter... it maybe a task. Aftermarket seats will help but I think it will cut down on the under seat storage that the Oem seat was design for...


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  Yes, that's correct.  One of the sales people suggested cutting the seat down but because of the cavity under the seat the foam is only about an inch thick at the front.  You'd end up having little or no foam left if you tried to alter the OEM seat.

  Visited the Bitec Motor show yesterday.  The main reason for my trip was to see the Xmax.  I left disappointed along with many Thai's hanging around the same time I was there.  The bike looked great, but the seat is simply too high for most Thai's.  I watched a half dozen of them try to sit on the Xmax shaking their heads when their toes barely touched the ground... my wife included.  They also walked away frustrated.  The Xmax looks like a success for the limited  farang market but I believe they have seriously damaged their sales with the Thai market by releasing this bike with a seat higher than many larger displacement scooters.  Guess I'll wait a few months. I imagine there will be a few lower aftermarket seats available  by then.

  Suzuki had the 650 Burgman imported from Japan.  Beautiful scooter (lower seat than Xmax) by I don't really want a 650 for running around town.  380,000 baht.

  The Forza was nowhere to be scene.  I guess they are embarrassed as the Xmax looks like a much nicer 300 at the moment.

5 hours ago, Ahnsahn said:

I believe the advertised spec for the height of the Xmax 300 is 795 mm (BTW, the advertised spec height for the current Forza 300 is 716 mm). One of the newly released Xmax 300 Eng subbed videos shows  5' 6" driver.

   That's the same height I have seen for the European version.  Almost the same height as the T-Max!  Pretty high for the average Thai.

  Very interested also.  Hope they drop the seat height for the Thai market or I'll have to pass.  The wife also needs to be able to drive the Xmax 

  Yep, best place to start... and end a business.  I see numerous business failures daily in Pattaya 

  Would be great if they would take Syrian refugees.  Them and the other Muslim countries.

1 hour ago, AhFarangJa said:

In Saudi it is a common everyday occurrence. So much so that we call babies over there Saudi Air Bags as they protect the Mother in the passenger seat who is just holding the infant, and they are between the Father and the steering wheel.

  Babies are commonly used as air bags on motorcycles here.

  Unfortunately, with uncontrolled breeding and building, it will continue to get worse.   The answer here is always... mai ben rai.

1 hour ago, fdch said:

thats it no more quality , best bike in the world getting F**ked up

make sure that they have the made in thailand sticker on it like the Lifan bikes( 555 only the sticker is thai made)

so we can avoud buying them

  Yep, you are correct.  Just like the Japanese bikes made here.  I have owned a bunch of them and the Thai "quality" is no where near the quality of the bikes when they came from Japan.

That's them Rimmer, Red Palm Weevil larvae.

  I remember taking a dip off Jomtien beach some 20+ years ago, when a turd floated by.  Haven't been back in there since. 

  I believe the "maggots" they are referring to are in fact the larvae of the Red Palm Weevil.  One of the most damaging pests in the world, yet Thai's breed them to sell the larvae for consumption .

  Yes, hope they are sure it's maggots and not red Palm Weevils, which commonly destroy not only coconut trees here but most other palms as well.