buddy

"True , but if you shout incorrect facts you become "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"

Incorrect facts?

Is it not the case that these two Banks are private commercial Banks?

Perhaps if we didnt have to pay interest back to these secret bankers, normal hard working peoples taxes would not be so high and they would be in a better position to afford to pay back thier mortgages.

The approx ten year cycle of boom and bust is it not an assett grab?.... wealth does not dissapear it gets redistributed.

The truth speaks for itself.

Dear Percy2,

I would not expect anything less than a lovely " its all rosy in the garden" type of information from the Federal Reserve or the Bank of England websites.

The whole idea of my original post was to inform and instigate debate about the setup secrecy and mis-information that is propogated by the Governments of both the US and the UK about the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England that effect the lives of millions and millions of people.

Once words are connected with "Government" "mis-information" and "secrecy" peoples eyes generally tend to glaze over and it seems to generate knee jerk reactions of conspiracy theory designed to immediately turn people off the topic being or trying to be discussed as though it has no credibility!

However it is a fact that the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England are private intitutions created for the sole purpose of maximising profit from every tax Dollar/Pound extracted from the sweat of US and British working populations for the benifit of an unelected secret banking cartel dominated by certain families, and in particular a group from one Edomite Middle Eastern Nation.

If these two intitutions were publically named for example as the US Citigroup Rokkefeller Mellon Bank of New York or the UK Natwest Lloyds Bank of London people would know immedietely they are private commercial banks.......The naming disguise and the Banks are not in the public interest!

The true facts about these two banks and the undue infuence they peddle over millions and millions of peoples lives should be shouted from the highest mountain tops, but alas they are all too powerful and it will not happen as maintaining the staus quo (high percentage of public ignorance) would be of the utmost importance to them.

Exposure could increase public awareness and if politicians werent first recruited into the fold they could put pressure on future elected representatives that in turn could threaten the very existance of the gravy train.

Most of the " sheeple" would be more interested about the latest news of Britney Spears new hairdo, Brad Pitts new moustache and the latest exchange rate than exposing the greatest pick pocketing scam in history and the most powerful people on the planet.

Just watch how fast this topic fades on a ThaiVisa website forum!

Buddy.

So,

How many are suprised at the revalation that the cleverly worded "Federal Reserve" and the "Bank of England" are private banks who are controlled by an unelected secret banking cartel dominated by a certain nationality and whose sole purpose is profit?

Not all conspiracy theories are just theories!

Investigative journalists must have tried in the past to expose the Worlds greatest scam........or maybe they got slotted just as the only two American presidents did who actually made a stand against these people, Abraham Lincoln and JF Kennedy?

Food for thought my friends!

Educate those around you.

Buddy.

Dear MrMan and Garyh,

Are you able to provide us with any identifies of the owners of the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England?..... and the reason for thier identities being protected by law?

Buddy.

but who underwrites the guarantee that these loans will be repaid by these two Governments? .....the taxpayer, hard working joe public, they are the ones thrown into generational debt by higher taxes inflicted long term on them and there children that are bailing out the auto industry and other financial institutions.

What if we just have a good old Tax Revolt? What if we all just say no?

Dear Flying,

With due respect I dont think you are getting my point, I would not condone any tax revolt, it is the way the Federal Reserve and Bank of England system is set up for profit I am questioning that many people are not aware of.

Do you think it is right that this current setup protects irresponsible fiscal behaviour because these few secret bankers win in any situation as there is always "public debt" and more so now in these troubled times.....there purpose is to make a profit, it is just not right, I support profit but this is just down right usery of the public purse!

Why the Government secrecy?

Why not set up a Government owned Federal Reserve Bank who's interest is for the Nation as a whole and disband this private Bank who's sole interest is profiteering for themselves......big power in the hands of an unelected secret few!

Think of it this way, If the profit takers of the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England were taken out of the equation and prevented from skimming off the Nations tax take your taxes would not be so high!

Buddy.

Dear All,

The current financial crisis has thrown up some awkward questions in the public domain for the way the Banks behave and are run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of the populations of the US and the UK believes that thier money is printed and supplied by two Government organisations, the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England.......well you would be wrong!

Its a myth that they are Government organisations, it may come as a suprise to some of you that both the Federal Reserve AND the Bank of England are PRIVATE institutions with private shareholders who's purpose like any other bank is to make a PROFIT.

However unlike other banks the identities of these two banks private shareholders are protected by the law in BOTH the US and the UK?

What do they have to hide and what special favour/hold do these mysterious powerful bankers have over successive elected Governments of the US and the UK to have the power to have thier identities concealed by law?

Those that control the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England are in a win win situation even in this current crisis they are milking it.

The US and the UK Governments are borrowing billions/trillions from these two banks alone an an agreed interest rate, but who underwrites the guarantee that these loans will be repaid by these two Governments? .....the taxpayer, hard working joe public, they are the ones thrown into generational debt by higher taxes inflicted long term on them and there children that are bailing out the auto industry and other financial institutions.

In your wildest dreams could you think of a better money making scheme/scam such as this?, it is true and it exists...try a Google search for the owners of these two banks.

There is a moral question here as to why successive democratically elected Governments support the power of the UNELECTED few mysterious bankers that have such undue influence over a Nations economy and effect the lives of millions of millions of people?

"Permit me to control the money of a Nation and I care not who makes its laws" - Mayer Anselm Rothschild.

Please Google "Money as debt" by Paul Grignon for a very basic explanation of the Fractional Reserve banking system.

The whole system stinks!

Buddy.

Dear All,

My tupence worth....

The current financial crisis has indeed thrown up some awkward questions for the way the Banks behave and are run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of the population in the US and the UK believes that thier money is printed and supplied by a Government agency, ie the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England?...... well you would be wrong!

Its a myth, both the Federal Reserve AND the Bank of England are not Governemnt agencies they are PRIVATE financial instituitions with private shareholders who's identities are protected by law.......why are there identities protected by law?

The question needs to be asked why is that the respective governments of the US and the UK have continuelly supported the few powerfull bankers who behind the scenes obviously have the control of a Nations economy and effect the lives of millions of people?...what have they to hide????

Those that control the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England are in a win win situation even in this current crisis they are milking it.

The US and UK Governments borrow billion/trillions from these two banks alone at an agreed interest rate, but who underwrites the guarantee that they will get thier money back.........the taxpayer, hard working joe public, they are the ones thrown in generational debt bailing out the auto industry and other financial institutions.....in your wildest dreams you couldnt think of a money earner like this, but believe me it is true, it exists........try a Google search for the owners of these two Banks.

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a Nation and I care not who makes its laws" - Mayer Anselm Rothschild.

Google "Money as debt" by Paul Grignon for a basic expalanation of the Fractional Banking system.

The whole thing stinks!

Buddy.

I'm visiting soon. Hope I'm not targeted because I look (am) Arab. Guh I have no idea why they do these stupid bombings.

Dear Musti,

In one word - RELIGION.

Underlying 90% of ALL human conflict on this Earth now is the curse of Religion, take Religion out of the equation and the perpetrators generaly do not have the motivation to behave the way they do!

Hi Steve, Huski, ChiangMaiThai,

Thank you for putting me at ease, I do really appreciate your advice.

Thanks again.

Hi,

Can anyone please help me with these questions -

Last year I overstayed for 4 days and paid the fine at Bangkok Airport.

Previously I stayed in Thailand for ten months, doing visa runs on a Tourist 30 day Visa, However this time I have managed to secure a job in Thailand working for an American Company.

So for me this will be the first time that I will have to go through the process of obtaining Non-immigrant B Visa and a Work Permit.

Question -

1, Will the previous overstay/fine cause me any problems securing either the Non-immigrant B Visa OR the Work Permit?

2, Will all the Visa stamps etc in my passport indicating that I have indeed done Visa runs previously to stay in Thailand cause me any problems in obtaining Non-Imm B and Work Permit?

3,How long does it take to get a Non-imm B Visa issued from a Thai Consulate in the U.K assuming all documentation is correct (company letter etc) ?

4, Assumming I have crossed above listed hurdles, once in Thailand with my Non-imm B Visa in hand, How long normally will it take to issue a Work permit?

Your help would be most appreciated.

Concerned.