7 hours ago, arithai12 said:

Can I have that monitor lizard please? Plenty of his favorite food around my place and dogs too, I wouldn't mind a quiet night for a change.

I understand very well what you're saying...

But I would prefer a flying monitor lizard, who might reduce the noise of the doves

and pigeons too.

6 hours ago, canopy said:

I am a few provinces down and it's been raining heavily every day for a week. The overall air quality of Northern Thailand is now comparable to Bangkok and that's a huge improvement. It's been a long time since you could say that.

 

You're lucky, Mr canopy.

But you can't speak for the whole Northern Thailand, sorry.

It's only a question of time till thunderstorms and rain will arrive north of Uttaradit etc.

Until then we see/hear a lot of lightning and thunder, but feel no rain.

Here is a nice picture of this situation:

   -   http://weather.tmd.go.th/phs.php

2 hours ago, vivid said:

Mae Taeng hospital, over a week now.

 

And now the wind blew it away?

Almost unbelievable numbers, max.  PM2.5  496 !

Btw, there is so many information...

Only one interesting example from India:

http://www.iuf.org/w/sites/default/files/Joint%20paraquat%20study%20India_0.pdf

And of course, it's the farmers fault...

[Irony]

2 hours ago, connda said:

 

This of course adversely affects the profit margins of Chinese herbicide/pesticide manufacturers, their distributors and supply chains, as well as directly affecting Bayer and Dow Agro Sciences. 
Two years and these chemicals will be banned, or will they be allowed for another two years?  

I think, they will be allowed forever, because the Thai farmers

will be educated in the meantime.

Profit margins? Manus manum lavat. - One hand washes the other one.
In Thailand not to forget Syngenta, the main producer of paraquat.

There is a lot of money and Power involved.

Back to the OP.

4 hours ago, TPI said:

Fake news here in Phrae as well...not a drop, lots of wind, I even danced naked around the outside of the house...nada!

Northern People - Keep on dancing, there will be no rain.
 

And it might become a bit warmer too, the next days.

We don't have to talk about AQ and such nonsense...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEs6e0FdwU

better than any weather.

Thanks, Mr vivid,

' normal folks would not think of getting such a PM2.5 meter '.

But this is very important.

In our provincial capital Phrae we had 160 PM2.5 today.

20 km north of Phrae 'only' about 50-60, inside and outside the house.

So, if you can check this yourself, I think it's much better than watch

any numbers from somewhere.

Btw, we use two different meters. One is called UNI-T, the other Xiaomi.

Both are always +/- 10 points. - This seems correct for me.

(prices 1.5/2.4 k Baht)

5 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

Here's my village today from about 200 meters up.

And today is better than yesterday.

And tomorrow will be better than today...

Thanks for this crazy photo.

It's almost unbelievable.

Good luck for your health.

************

I had a look at fire mapper. We are the Champions.

7 hours ago, vivid said:

Read that there are some thunderstorms in NE and N Thailand due to interaction with a high pressure air mass from China, will last till Wed.

 

Hope that'll help the situation.

 

Extended brown/purple conditions are really too much for the poor kids, elderly, sick....... unless they spend their lives totally in an air purifier filtered + AC environment and N95 masks when they are going out. 

I hope in the CM-area it's better now.

Here in Phrae much better than before:

But I'm afraid, these thunderstorms will not travel too much north:

https://www.goes.noaa.gov/dml/jma/nhem/wpac/rb.html

3 hours ago, Trujillo said:

So it's all China's fault. How convenient. ...

Yes, right.

Of course not only China's fault. As an old hand you will know the other sources.

But for many members it might be too difficult to learn all these different reasons for

smog in our area.

This video might be a good start, especially for some only Thai understanding/speaking people.

And if anyone might change the situation,  I would think it's only the Thais.

Very important link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnJj6TBqWX4&feature=youtu.be

เห็ดอังกฤษ

(UT in English)

1 hour ago, Ned said:

Doi Lo Hospital this morning was 640. 

 

Oh, later much better. Only 529.

529? Might be an error? - Smoking near the measuring device?

But seriously , it is very bad.

Here are more links, some already well-known:

What is the difference between the PM2.5 and AQI measurements? - Quora

South Asian Air Quality Scales: Malaysia and Thailand

ChiangMai Air Quality Health Index

http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/air-quality/map.php  -  very interesting picture.

Excellent statement, mrmillersr.

And it's not only Chiang Mai. Depending on the time of the year and the wind directions

the entire north is concerned, or the northeast or Greater Bangkok.

When Indonesia is burning then the south of Thailand is in big trouble too.

So, also speaking to Mr Gweiloman, there is not so much green on this map

(Berkeley Earth):

Yesterday morning north of Phrae we 'had' inside 275, outside 334.

Today only 120/130. - PM2.5 - Wonderful to breathe.

Healthy <100?

I'm very happy now at 9.30 PM with 56.

The OP:

'PM2.5 – airborne particulates 2.5 microns or less in diameter – reached 102 micrograms per cubic metre of air in Phrae Monday morning and the Air Quality Index (AQI) level was 212, while PM10 hit 132 micrograms, according to the Pollution Control Department (PCD).

The safe limits set in Thailand are 100 for AQI, 50 micrograms for PM2.5 and 100 micrograms for PM10. '

This nonsense has got much more readers:

Poll: Thais want better living standards

Big Joke: Swedes arrested after quarter of a billion baht money laundering operation

Police look to clamp down on Valentine fun

So what, if you don't have good air to breathe you'll have to die, sooner or later.

Good Luck.

Dear Mr/Mrs brommers,

' 120\130 is hardly good. It is in fact rated unhealthy for sensitive groups. "

D'accord.

But if the alternative would be ' inside 275, outside 334' I would prefer

an 120 reading.

This night here north of Phrae 'only' 46 with the air purifier working, and

now outside 67 !

Wonderful.

Breathing is possible again.

If the Pm2.5 numbers will rise again we might meet at Mae Moh entrance to discuss

the situation with?

the Guards?/the Security?/the CEO?. - Or what would you suggest?

Btw, I don't need any numbers froem US, China, RU or where ever.

I have my nose, my eyes and an PM2.5-meter to check it out.

And today is quite good, especially in comparison with the last days.

Numbers.

Yesterday inside the house PM2.5  275, outside 334.

Near Phrae.

May be the wind blew it away or...

Today only 120/130.

Good.

This morning PM2.5 only 120 inside/130 outside near Phrae.

Yesterday much higher:  275/334

'as time goes by'

I too remember Feb/March 2014. Very bad.

1 hour ago, Mahseer said:

Take a look at China then revise your statement.

Sorry, Mahseer,

is it important to be the first, second or what?

Besides, it all depends on the winds.

If you were living upnorth we all should be glad:

no ChinaSmog influence till now.

But I'm afraid the system is changing these days.

Have a look at the screenshot.

The channel is 'being built'.

4 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

You guys finally got me.

Today is the worst air I have ever seen any place in this country since I moved to Thailand five years ago.

I actually can feel it when I take a deep breathe.

 

May I ask where you are?

Temperamental Member - 'It's a lot worse now.'

Any idea why? - Thanks.

Burning/Clearing forests?

Slash and Burn?

Is it farmers fault?

Is it traffic?

Or could this perhaps be a lignite power plant?

The EGAT-People in Mae Moh said today to my wife, there is forest-clearing

in Amphoe Long (and for that we have continuous smog in and around Phrae...).

OK?

hello robblok,

the air purifier was still in the bedroom. The '267'-photo was shot in the kitchen.

You wrote: ' it keeps my numbers under 20 in the house '  -  I'm happy with 50.

Wooden house is difficult to insulate.

Today north of Phrae PM2.5
7 AM - inside the house 275, outside 334.

5 hours ago, brommers said:

And your source is?

The numbers shown on your map of CM can hardly be called good as they are rated unhealthy for people with sensitivity to pollutants.

You're absolutely right.

Some additional links:

http://berkeleyearth.org/air-pollution-overview/

Inhalable Particulate Matter and Health

Greenpeace names 10 areas with alarming pollution - Thailand News - Thailand Visa Forum by Thai Visa | The Nation

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/thailand/central-thailand/bangkok/bangkok-crossroads.html

https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#z:5;c:105.8,14.8;t:adv-points;d:2019-01-29..2019-01-30;l:firms_viirs,firms_modis_a,firms_modis_t

8 hours ago, kevvy said:

Drove through there just recently , the haze went from lampang to Bangkok .There was over 140 burning off fires lit

 

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/air-pollution/air-pollution-rise-in-northern-thailand-attributed-to-149-controlled-forest-fires

Thanks for the link.

Just another observation. Last Tuesday I drove from Rongkwang to Chiang Mai.

On the '103' there was 'fog' till Ngao. Then on the '1' there was thick fog again

till Lampang. But about 30 km behind Lampang '11' the skies became blue.

This was in the morning.

On the way back on Wednesday afternoon almost exactly the opposite. Blue skies

from Chiang Mai till Long in Phrae Province on the '1023' and then fog, haze, smog.

Only around Lampang we noticed smoke on two places in the forests.

Following a screenshot from yesterday. And today is's worse.