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7 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

I think we can all understand those terms and their implications.

Uyghur genocide - Wikipedia

China seems to be implementing both. 

The Cultural Revolution within China itself was another example of cultural genocide.

 

Yes, and not only are they murdering Uyghurs Muslims, they're also selling their organs. I imagine people who have a fondness for the CCP would think they're just being industrious for their country. 

Among other issues, Washington and Beijing have clashed over China's handling of the coronavirus outbreak, its tightening grip on Hong Kong, its disputed claims in the South China Sea, trade and accusations of human rights crimes in Xinjiang.

China said on Thursday that politicians in the United States are fabricating news of detained Uighur Muslims being forced into labor in the Xinjiang region.

1 minute ago, robblok said:

But the US did commit genocide on the native americans by killing of the buffalo. So its not above the US. 

 

You are right can protest against it but what happened to the ones that started the war based on fake evidence ?

 

So yes USA is the preferable choice. But far from perfect. The fact that you can protests is great and other stuff is great too.

We've had countless genocides throughout history. No one can change history. They're terrible things, right? So how about we learn from history and not repeat them. How about we all agree that genocide is a terrible thing that should always be unequivocally condemned. No ifs or but, but, but...... Genocide is NON-NEGOTIABLE. 

I'm not defending anything the US has, or is doing. I'm simply stating that China is currently committing genocide. America doing bad things doesn't negate this fact. Two things can be wrong at the same time.

None of this kind of behaviour is curved or improved without freedom of expression. 

@Eric Loh Why did you leave a laughing emoji when talking about the Uyghur Genocide in China? 

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Pretty rich from you to defend US human rights accusations on speaking out. Fired, threatened and living in exile are evident in US.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/officials-who-criticized-donald-trump/index.html

I'm not defending it. I literally just said they have and continue to do horrible things (and we're free to talk about it without fear of being arrested), but they are not committing genocide. China are.

Now, would you like to acknowledge the CCP are committing genocide, Eric?  

24 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Exactly what has the trump administration achieved with PRC's oppression of Uighurs? Remember trump only got involved with relatively minor actions, nothing that made a difference, after Xi rebuked his attempts at trade negotiation. 

As I had to explain to a dog lover once when I told him I prefer cats - "I don't hate dogs". 

28 minutes ago, robblok said:

Your right China is a danger but the US does the same stuff invading other countries. Starting wars based on fake evidence.

 

I still prefer the US over China but people should not be naive and think the US is not doing similar bad stuff.

The US isn't committing genocide. They have, and still continue to do terrible things - but we for the most part can voice against it. Speak out. Try doing that with the CCP within China. The CCP are even trying to stifle freedom of expression outside of China by threatening and spying on its people abroad. 

Genocide is non-negotiable. 

3 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

 

Agreed, but, the USA is also guilty of genocide.

Explain?

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Yeah human rights abuse. Happen everywhere.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/501922-us-faces-allegations-of-human-rights-abuses-over-treatment-of-protesters

Right..... So let's just ignore China's genocide.

How utterly repugnant. 

Terrible news. 

3 hours ago, edwinchester said:

"For example, the commission found that the mechanics department had disbursed more than Bt6 million to 567 staff as overtime pay"

 

That is only 10k bht overtime per year for each mechanic so nothing extraordinary at all.

Thai lost billions upon billions of baht through corruption, one can only wonder why they're reporting on what seems perfectly normal expenses.

Stop thinking too much. These lot are clearly the ones who done it. Hopefully it will mean case closed. 

10 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

The court said he acted within the regulations. End of. Of course the regulations are wrong, but that doesn't make him guilty, Does the constitution bother itself with where ex-army personnel live? I don't think so.

Gifts or privileges can't be bestowed upon politicians. They have a salary and all other perks are officially signed off for.

Letting someone live in a house for free is a very special privilege. Which is why if it was really necessary, it should have been made official from the beginning. Especially just after you take over a country with a gun on the pretext of ending corruption. 

34 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

If he acted within the regulations then the court made the right decision. Now, how about changing the regulations.

The problem isn't what's written within the army regulations - it's what's written within the constitution.

It would be similar to me being provided housing from my workplace but deciding to live in a house provided by the company I used to work for. My old company couldn't just say, "It's okay. We don't mind. He was a good egg when he worked for us". My current employers would well be in their right to fire me for conflict of interest. 

If the problem was his official residence was being renovated, he should have been officially signed off to live somewhere else for a fixed period of time (not 6 years).

If the problem was his residence was too big (yes, this was one of the excuses) he should have been reminded of how the average Thai person lives and been scolded for being so crass, ignorant and flippant. 

He stayed in his army home and no one thought to do anything about making it legally permanent. They thought they could do as they please. Very sadly for Thailand they were right. 

39 minutes ago, Venom said:

BTW - In the photo I see he's wearing a mask with a one way valve, these only offer protection to the wearer and zero protection against spreading Covid to others. ????

Of course. I imagine when he was at the pharmacy this was specifically the kind of mask he asked for. 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The Army informed the court that the residence was provided to Prayut because he is PM and deserves the honour and security it provides.

And where do they draw the line about which people and which institutions can give what kinds of benefits providing honour and security?

Can rich business people, for example, give politicians fancy cars if they have bulletproof windows? How about a mansion with German Shepards or a Rolex that releases sleeping gas?

Will the army be supplying housing for all future PM’s? 

The theory is he will be let off (found guilty but the good kinda guilty) as he's done so much wonderful work for the country. That will be the excuse. If that's the case, it will lay a great precedent for people to abuse their authority even more and have courts simply ignore their wrongs based on their perceived rights.

The benefits of being a made man; sorry, I meant a "good person". 

Is there anything lower and more scummy than stealing people's overtime salary for yourself?  Yes, there is. Thinking that it's your right to do so 'cos of who you are. 

11 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

I don't, actually. Used all of it wrapping you up.

Kinky. 

6 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Whoever invented it, it's vile stuff.

At least there's no chance it will give us a novel virus.