mamborobert

Personally I would give them a big miss. There has, as you have pointed out been a fair few places jazzed up rather than refurbished per se. In the end you can polish a turd but it is still a turd. There are a lot newer and nicer places on the market (including location wise), to me these are cheap places being "flipped" at a premium to the lower end of the faring market. Same for some refits at SR. condo as well.

If you could afford not to stay there....you would'nt stay there.

Edit...do a forum search as these places have been mentioned a few times as "investments" and the like.

And yet we have Khaosod yesterday (and several other newspapers and social media pages praising a German tourist who has come here on holidays for the last six years (and this time brought tools) who has been gardening, cleaning phone boxes, clearing rubbish off the side of the road......and gaining a lot of praise for it.

I always looked at "work" (paid, paid in kind, or otherwise) as being something where you were not taking the job of a Thai, or being volunteered in such a way (through a series of people or placements) that took the potential for creation of a job of a Thai. Also of course it should be incidental to the purpose of your main visa not your major purpose. This the way that a lot of western immigration authorities look at it.....Having said that TIT.

On another thread now we have NancyL giving a three hour presentation on Lessons Learned at the End of Life....associated with Lannacarenet and this too seems ok.

http://www.khaosod.co.th/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRReU5Ea3hOemcwTWc9PQ==&sectionid=

Nice and relevant piece by Channel 4 on Chinese in Thailand for CNY and issues for Thais/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZ6CAUPW3g

And for the visual amongst us...the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02a-516tOs

Not a place I frequent I can assure you

I'm still trying to work out how drunk you would have to be to fall into that place when there are better alternatives within falling distance.

It really has to be the worse bar on the strip....by far.....Its so bad it makes everything that Bettlejuice says about Loi Kroh have credibility

The bars in LoiKroh are mostly harmless by comparison, as said before, don't use check bins.

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.Warning. . . An Aussie had $200 stolen from his wallet in a massage at the top of LoiKroh yesterday.

. . . .he says he went to sleep........Silly man didn't contact the Police.

I've got a mate who's had his pocket picked four times last year, admittedly when slightly tiddly, and the only thing he could find in common from all the nights was a visit to a bar beginning with an M and ending in an A.

I'll leave you to work it out, lest the bad news bears jump all over me for being libellous.

One of those LB bars in the shed of shame. near the ring (so to speak).

Methinks you would be wrong here...Only one that springs to my mind as The M@@@@a Bar which is down the other end of Loi Kroh from your joint (nearest moat)......and seems to have the same flag as yours festooned...It is a grotty place and the women (not girls) not much better. You would have to be more than half cut to go in there in the first place.

Winnie...the article suggested this was somewhere near CMU. Am not overly familiar with that area myself and even less so at night....

http://www.cm108.com/bbb/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=4658

More Police Stop related than Police Loi Kroh Stop related.....but gotta love the T shirt of this fella captured on a CM108 report today....and he's even Thai .

The Australian Authorities have also been active in prostitution raids in SEA.

Any evidence of this in relation to CM let alone Thailand, come to think of it SE Asia in general in the last say five years. I really would be interested in examples of which authority (AFP, AUSAID, IMMIetc) and how many involved given jurisdiction and budget. Having an AFP officer tag along as an invited guest on a in country raid as you put it is hardly being "active".

Also Australian agencies concern themselves largely with trafficking not prostitution per se or even forms of cultural debt bondage in places like Thailand, China and India.

Sex trafficking particularly of children may get the PR and NGO dollars but does not help the conditions of indentured crew on Thai fishing vessels or some farms, and certainly not helping the tens of thousands of Rohingya that are trafficked and die into and through Thailand....along with fishing probably the most lucrative and corrupt endeavour.

For Commonwealth Departments there is a list of authorised persons that is quite lengthy (in regards to Statutory Declarations). Perhaps it would be easier if posters indicated what profession was authorised to certify documents relevant to what they are seeking as it can vary. There maybe one at a local hotel or backpackers or bar

Australian registered Pharmacists, Nurses, Police Officers, certain ADF members, and members of bodies such as Chartered Accountants of Australia can all sign Stat Decs for the Commonwealth even when in CM on holidays. I have had most of my documents in Chiang Mai certified by a "Permanent employee of the Commonwealth" who resides in CM here for several months each year for Centrelink, Immigration, ATO, and DVA paperwork with no problems for the last six years. I just save the stuff up or pre plan as best I can as to when I know he is about.

Ps...edit I imagine the Hon Consul could sign if he falls within one of these specified person categories and not solely as a result of being an honorary consul (stat dec wise anyway). Certifying true copies may be different.

http://www.ag.gov.au/Publications/Pages/Statutorydeclarationsignatorylist.aspx

The only similarity between the U.S. Constitution, and Police and Prostitution in Chiang Mai is a tenuous link to the adage"In God we trust". altered locally for BIB and prostitues to "In God we trust, everybody else pays cash".

The police just caught him yesterday.

Photo credit: Sansai Gazette.

Another faring working without an appropriate visa. will they never learn.

I think you have to separate duty form moving household goods...two different things.

REQUIREMENTS FOR CHANGING OF RESIDENCE

• Nonresidents: Nonresidents may import the used/secondhand household effects acquired abroad tax and duty free if such household effects accompanied them in the change of residence and they are qualified under the criteria listed below:
• Nonresidents resuming residents in Thailand must be granted a non-immigrant quota as shown in a passport or a Nonresident Identification Card; or
• Nonresidents granted to work in Thailand are regarded as resuming residents in Thailand provided they have a one-year non-immigrant visa issued by the Immigration Department. In case where the non-immigrant visa has not yet been granted, either of the following documents may be accepted:
  • The letter from the Immigration Department certifying that the nonresidents shall be granted an annual temporary stay in Thailand; or
  • The work permit from the Department of Labor to work in Thailand for at least one year.
• Nonresidents entering Thailand as an expert, specialist, or under a contract of government agencies are required to present the letter from relevant agencies certifying that such nonresidents are granted a non-immigrant visa issued by the Immigration Department and shall work in Thailand not less than one year.

http://www.customs.go.th/wps/wcm/connect/custen/individuals/importing+used+or+secondhand+household+effects/importingusedsecondhandhouseholdeffects+

What we need for up to real time verifiable information as well as personal amusement is a live camera feed from immigration

All this talk of corruption...... I am so pleased to see that no TV member initiates an on site fine payment to the BIB after being pulled over for no helmet or license etc. When it becomes a practicality that is enabled or initiated then obviously its not corruption right?

As far as the Op is concerned, if you are doing everything legit, and what the other person is manifestly not AND affecting your income that would benefit your family then to me all best are off. You are being affected, you are an involved party, the opinion of TV members should have no sway as we are not involved and not (directly) affected. Your obligations are to your family.

Clearly you are concerned about what others think, what is right and have some morals and ethics as this situation you are in causes you a dilemma. But for me every baht that someone takes that should have legitimately and lawfully come to me is taking a baht from the future of my family. As others have said though...CYA.

Anything that results in me having less or no exposure to David Marr with my Sunday breakfast is a good thing.

Not talking about concrete valleys at all...just seemed good economic sense and gives some potential for Lamphun...unless you want to bulldoze Doi Suthep instead there are not a lot of ways to go with good infill capacity

As.for buying second hand homes could not agree with you more...but the Thai/Chinese like new as you know....and there are more that enough Europeans custom building given land and building costs compared to their home land, and they are not on 60 wah blocks.

The proposed plan goes through a fair wack of properties (not just Bang Wan Tan) so like I said there will be some happy with compensation and some not as already seems the case at CM108. Rather than fight the battle here I would have thought it would be better aligning with the many Thais that have expressed concern and tap into or compliment what they are doing. That is where the numbers, dollars, family links, and votes are.

I am aware of current routes to Lamphun. Most convenient for me is the 106 presently, The proposed route (and being 6 lanes) to me will be much better,

I can see the sense in having multiple routes between two cities so close so that when there is infill (for land opening up as I mentioned earlier) there will be less congestion on the current routes over time. I see this as a positive for Lamphun and for Chiang Mai as well, in opening up Lamphun more and perhaps slowing/reducing population pressures on Chiang Mai.

There is limited expansion capacity in Cm at present, this will open up a whole new corridor to Lamphun which has great potential to take some of the strain of Chiang Mai. Just my view.