23 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

medical field is not really a science.  I know you work out, you should know this just thru all the changes in "best diet practice" changes in past 20 years.
People thhat want to help people are not slaves nor should be held down an put drugs into their body without consent.  

...already people are having higher bad reactions to it than covid itself.  You can believe in the vax. thats fine and your right.  It's also someone else's right to not be held down and injected with ANY drug.

I'm open minded.  I also think people SHOULD be able to USE any drug they want.  Your body, your choice.  That's freedom.  

higher bad reactions to the vaccine than to the virus itself?

i suppose you're not counting the nearly 2 million deaths so far?

5 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

As a business man he lost a lot of court cases too, used his mobster lawyer and fathers mobster friends to bully people. His cronies are running away from him now he has become weak. They will rat him out soon. 

even the banksters are bailing.

Trump’s Long-Favored Banks Pull Back Amid Fallout From Riot

Two of Donald Trump’s favored banks are pulling away from the billionaire president in the wake of last week’s deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Deutsche Bank AG has decided to refrain from further business with Trump and his company, said a person with knowledge of the matter, asking not to be identified because the deliberations were confidential. Trump owes the Frankfurt-based lender more than $300 million.

And Signature Bank, the New York lender that’s long catered to his family, said it’s cutting ties while it presses for his resignation. Signature is closing two personal accounts in which Trump held about $5.3 million, a spokesperson for the firm said on Monday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-e2-80-99s-long-favored-banks-pull-back-amid-fallout-from-riot/ar-BB1cFjDy?ocid=uxbndlbing

13 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

 

Understatement if ever there was one .. what about that Sydney Powell , couldn't she summon up some sort of

" aliens made him do it " defence .. 

nancy will be introducing articles of impeachment possibly as early as this afternoon.

time is short!  powell better get kraken!

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Phallop said the promise to pay referred only to people infected from the 1G1 hotel across the border from Mai Sai, not locally acquired infections and those brought in from elsewhere in Thailand. 

so, umm, he's like, uhh, the head of  the myanmar tourism association?

46 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Trump isn't clever, most of the voters are dumb.

don't confeve clever with honourable or brilliant.

trump isn't stupid.  he (with his even clevererer lawyers) has managed to keep out of jail and "winning" in the courts, at least in his business days.

he might not be highly edumacated, he might not be classy, but he has a way of manipulating people, wriggling out of trouble, and getting what he wants.

don't misunderestimate him, especially now that he senses  danger and possibly is beginning to panic.  the final ten days will be when he lashes out and goes for broke.

if he can't win, he's got the potential to bring it all down with him.

be afraid.

23 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The pandemic was not the most important issue in the election. He would have lost for a dozen other reasons which he performed poorly. 

to many of us 'merkans, the issues aren't that important.  we, many of us, vote straight ticket from president all the way down to dogcatcher, 'cause that's how our families raised us.

trump could easily have played the blm/antifa/chiniran cards and won re-election.  we're divided enough, and trump is (well, was...) clever enough to play our differences off, and work the electoral college system to stay in. 

he didn't need the popular vote in '16, and would not have needed it in '20.  even with 250K dead due to his botched response at the time of the election, he still got a record number of votes for a losing candidate.  as bad as things have gotten, biden only got 7 million more votes.

if it weren't for those meddlin' pathogens...

heavy metals is fake news!

obviously it was the gps tracking chip released into her bloodstream that jammed the inertial guidance system of the AI piloting the tesla, causing...........brake failure.

she should sue the snot out of bill gates.

8 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

A quick google search shows that this story did not get picked up by the bigger, more reputable news outlets.

 

Yes, no doubt this poor woman did die, but when someone goes suddenly at this age it is usually because of something like a massive heart attack, brain hemorrhage, etc.

 

It was reported in Daily Mail, yes.

 

Wait for the autopsy.

 

I do think one of the vaccines raises flags, but this should be kept in perspective.

 

 

follow the link in the OP.  the lady appears to be obese, possibly morbidly obese, age 41.  not altogether uncommon for older, obese persons to die of undiagnosed cardiac problems.

1 hour ago, DBath said:

Yeah? Tell that to the 7.5 million people of Hong Kong and you can add to that, China has aspirations that go far beyond dominating just those two countries. The Chinese are not as clever as you think. 

hong kong is a country?

COVID-19 vaccine did not cause the death of a Portuguese woman, contrary to social media posts’ suggestions

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/covid-19-vaccine-did-not-cause-the-death-of-a-portuguese-woman-contrary-to-social-media-posts-suggestions/

you can be an anti-anything-er, and troll social media to find examples of bad things that happened after your target anything.  the more that anything occurs, the more bad things coincidentally happen afterwards.  the search becomes especially fruitful, bigly fruitful even, when there is no cutoff period.

so in the end, EVERYONE who is vaccinated dies.  open and shut case?  vaccines will kill us all?

22 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

 

so that site just reported a crash of a 737 in the ocean, also fake news not to be trusted ?

china daily and russia today also reported on the 737 crash.

that make them reliable news sources in your opinion then?

23 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

 

NO, everybody does what they want ANYWAY

 

it is to inform people, can news like this not be posted ?

 

if you are not sick, why take a risk

 

 

do you have to be blind for reality ?

if you're already sick, the vaccine will do no good.

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

Wait, wasn't it Antifa that did this?  That's what Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz and conservative spokeswoman Sarah Palin have said.  Surely such intellectuals couldn't have it wrong.

all part of their cunning plan!

those clever antifa types joined militia groups and right-wing ultranationalist organizations years, perhaps decades ago, just waiting for the chance to implicate some future republican tyrant and his minions.

why, wasn't trump at one time a registered democrat?  is he now to be considered part of the global antifa conspiracy?

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2298752/trumpvr2001.pdf

1 minute ago, cmarshall said:

 

I don't doubt this account at all, but even if is true it does not implicate Trump in a crime.

possible.......the legal types would have to weigh in on whether this would amount to interference in an investigation, racketeering, or obstruction of justice.

at a minimum, it adds to the growing body of evidence showing a pattern of criminal behavior, or perhaps mental instability.

10 minutes ago, transam said:

Bit off topic there chap, but did one go off at this gathering, did I miss something...?

apparently yes.  yes, you did.  some of those friendly chaps took pipe-bombs and molotovs to the garden party.  maybe they were the gardeners, preparing to refresh the tree of liberty.

when it reigns it pours!

White House Forced Georgia U.S. Attorney to Resign

Pressure for resignation was part of broader push by President Trump to overturn state’s election results

White House officials pushed Atlanta’s top federal prosecutor to resign before Georgia’s U.S. Senate runoffs because President Trump was upset he wasn’t doing enough to investigate the president’s unproven claims of election fraud, people familiar with the matter said.

A senior Justice Department official, at the behest of the White House, called the Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney Byung J. Pak late on the night of Jan. 3. In that call the official said Mr. Trump was furious there was no investigation related to election fraud and that the president wanted to fire Mr. Pak, the people said.

Mr. Pak resigned abruptly on Monday—the day before the runoffs—saying in an early morning email to colleagues that his departure was due to “unforeseen circumstances.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-forced-georgia-u-s-attorney-to-resign-11610225840

expect to see much more of this in the next few days.

apparently it was trump himself who will provide the rope.

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Well, where I come from I think I would call them fruit cakes, but we all know what oddballs mean....????

You tell me, as you refer to these fruit cakes as terrorists, how many were tooled up, how many were found with bombs, how many ended up in McDonald's bragging about stealing Government toilet rolls...?

how many are needed to set off a bomb?

Capitol siege was planned online. Trump supporters now planning the next one

WASHINGTON – The planning for Wednesday’s assault on the U.S. Capitol happened largely in plain view, with chatters in far-right forums explicitly discussing how to storm the building, handcuff lawmakers with zip ties and disrupt the certification of Joe Biden’s election – in what they portrayed as responding to orders from President Donald Trump.

This went far beyond the widely reported, angry talk about thronging Washington that day. Trump supporters exchanged detailed tactical advice about what to bring and what to do once they assembled at the Capitol to conduct “citizens arrests” of members of Congress. One poster said, “[expletive] zip ties. I’m bringing rope!”

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/capitol-siege-was-planned-online-trump-supporters-are-planning-the-next-one/

41 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

 

Not so fast.  In fact, it is possible for the Senate to try Trump on articles of impeachment before Jan. 20.  Although the Senate is now in recess, if the Dems. can round up 51 votes they can march into the Senate chamber and announce that, a quorum having been established the Senate is now in session.  A majority could be made up of the 48 Dem senators plus the two new Dem senators from GA once the runoff elections have been certified by the Secretary of State of GA, plus at least one Republican senator.  So far, at least three Republican senators have declared themselves in favor of removing Trump: Romney, Murkowski, and Toomey.  The majority in the new Senate session can elect Schumer as Majority Leader who then puts on the agenda the trial of the President under articles of impeachment.  

 

It is indeed possible that 17 Republican votes could be found to convict Trump since the Republican party leadership would be happy to be rid of him, but they would have to be willing to face the rage of the Trumpites, which is less certain.

 

This path will only be tried, however, in the unlikely event that Chuck Schumer grows a pair.

not so fast.  read more than just the headline.

"The Senate is currently in recess and is holding pro forma sessions every three days until January 19. Pursuant to the unanimously approved order setting up the recess and these pro forma sessions, the Senate may conduct no business until January 19," McConnell wrote.

He added that the Senate will hold two more pro-forma sessions on Tuesday, Jan. 12 and Friday, Jan. 15.

"Without unanimous consent, the Senate may not conduct any business of any kind during pro forma sessions, including beginning to act on received articles of impeachment from the House," McConnell wrote.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-letter-senate-impeachment-summary

would only need one senator to oppose considering impeachment, not a quorum.

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Not completely permanent but coming close:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

i thought trump's plan was to start a small war with iran to appease his largest donors and to make things difficult for biden returning to the jcpoa.

turns out he's got biglier plans!  appears half a million dead aren't bigly enough.

Pompeo lifts US-Taiwan restrictions in move likely to anger China

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/09/mike-pompeo-restrictions-us-taiwan-china