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I'm not an expert , but it might have been sufficient to have carried and shown the Expired Thai Passport with the arrival stamp in it .
Now this is interesting. After airline staff refused boarding because of the empty UK passport ("where is the entry stamp?") we said the entry stamp is on the old Thai passport, which is expired, and we had to show the old passport. That did not help anything though.
Interesting also that immigration stamped his - at that point already expired (!) Thai passport when he came back to Thailand last time.
I reckon this stamp should have gone into the valid UK passport then? We had one immigration officer telling us to go have that mistake fixed with immigration at arrival. When trying that, we had to learn from immigration that it would be illegal to transfer it to another passport and holding two passports would be illegal anyway (which we know is not true for a fact) - only to tell us two minutes later we should go and get a Thai passport to travel ...
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...Perhaps, it might be possible for your step-son's father to sign a notarized letter requesting the issuance of the passport in lieu of actually attending...
I saw a post quite recently mentioning that the Thai passport office accepted the written consent for the issuance of a minor's passport from a parent who was unable to present himself at the office. Therefore, the physical absence of a parent need indeed be no hindrance to the issue of the passport.
Thanks for that, it made us try (again) today at the office in Chaeng Watthana and we were able to get a Thai passport for him the same day.
It was a close call, though. They would not accept the official paper from his Dad's amphoe in Thai. Only when we produced the Letter of Consent we prepared in English language (originally intended for customs in Europe) we could file the application. They did however make a note on the application form and told us this will not go through again the next time.
Were his mother and father actually legally married? If not the mother alone can arrange for the passport.
No, they were not. It did not seem to matter to the head of office today, though
For a child that's never left the country, Immigration would have let you through with a embassy-issued UK passport and proof the child was born in Thailand (i.e. Birth certificate), on the basis that it's perfectly possible for a UK national to be born in Thailand, and issued with a UK passport, never getting an entry stamp.I also believe immigration would have let you through even if the son's had previous trips because my daughter once exited the country with valid UK passport, but 2 day expired Thai passport (we'd originally booked the prior week, but my wife changed the flights at the last minute - I was in Hong Kong at the time for work so we didn't have time to get the passport sorted that week. Admittedly we had no issues with the airline, but my wife and daughter did have to spend 20 minutes with immigration arguing their case before they were let through for their flight. If you were fairly late checking in - the airline probably made the right decision (for the airline) - as they'd know about the delay that immigration would cause.
Cheers, I was arguing with them about exactly that and we later (after counters were closed and the airline staff nowhere to be seen) had immigration confirm that the birth certificate was sufficient and would have let us pass. When we got back the next morning and explained that to airline staff to demand a replacement ticket, we could not find anyone at immigration who would repeat this statement and we decided to give up at this point and try to get a Thai passport - see start of this post
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It's a known fact that Thai nationals with dual citizenship / passports should always enter Thailand and depart Thailand on a Thai passport to avoid the hassle you have stated above.
It takes about 3 to 5 days to obtain a Thai passport in Thailand so I fail to see why he doesn't currently have one.
What advice are you actually seeking ?
As he is my step-son and his parents who are still both required to appear before the Thai passport issuing authorities but not live close to each other it is not as easy as you would like to believe.
Really my girlfriend obtained a passport for her son my step son only last year,his father was no where to be seen so I fail to see how that's the case.
Good for you! I do know different cases and are living proof for it does not work everywhere so I fail to see what help you could be to this case.
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You needed to be able to show his birth certificate to show he was born in Thailand, hence the reason for no stamps.
However if the child is Thai and has a Thai birth certificate then there is every likelihood he will require a Thai passport to exit Thailand.
If he's 10 he should have a Thai ID card should he not,isn't this proof enough ?
Nope, he does have one but it did not matter to the airline staff.
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It's a known fact that Thai nationals with dual citizenship / passports should always enter Thailand and depart Thailand on a Thai passport to avoid the hassle you have stated above.
It takes about 3 to 5 days to obtain a Thai passport in Thailand so I fail to see why he doesn't currently have one.
What advice are you actually seeking ?
As he is my step-son and his parents who are still both required to appear before the Thai passport issuing authorities but not live close to each other it is not as easy as you would like to believe.
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Good evening,
me, my 10-year old step-son (dual citizen UK/Thai) and his mother (Thai with EU national visa) were denied boarding a flight out of Thailand on his UK passport as it did not have an entry stamp into Thailand. He was born in Thailand and his UK passport was issued in Bangkok.
He does not currently have a Thai passport for different reasons. He did travel on a Thai passport before and used that last year to exit and enter Thailand with all stamps (as I understand it should be) but now that passport has expired.
The airline said he would not be able to pass immigration to board the flight without any stamp in his UK passport - is that true? I remember doing exactly that with two of our kids who were born in Thailand and it was not a problem.
Thanks for any advice!
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I was told to go upstairs for a photo too, by an elderly lady. Had to wear a white shirt, another method for extracting more money.
From my experience this is just common practice, even for Thais:
Students in photos for student related documents are always required to wear a white shirt...?
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555 this is real genius!
Now, every Farang in Thailand who wants to rent a motorbike has to leave with the renter: his passport.
This just makes it so much easier for police to pay the rent in no time: Just stop any (and all) Farang on a motorbike, ask for passport and: Bingo!
Couldnt have set it up better myself
Woot??
Nobody have to leave their passport at the renter!
Sure, but they will not be able to rent that bike :)
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And a Thai ( darker colored human being ) don't need to carry an Id ? not logical....
Actually, afaik, the do need to carry one. As is the case in many countries btw.
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555 this is real genius!
Now, every Farang in Thailand who wants to rent a motorbike has to leave with the renter: his passport.
This just makes it so much easier for police to pay the rent in no time: Just stop any (and all) Farang on a motorbike, ask for passport and: Bingo!
Couldnt have set it up better myself ;)
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Perhaps the Thai immigration officer felt that the multiple-entry non-B visa was not the correct visa for living in Thailand long-term with back-to-back border runs.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app
Interesting, but as a matter of fact I do have only one back-to-back stamp in my passport within the last 5 years ... I did go to Satun one time this year but other than that I went to/from Prague, Düsseldorf and Berlin within the last 12 months and it was not for one day. Of course they will not show in my passport as I am EU citizen an do not get stamped there.
The Thai immgration stamps however do not go back-to back as I did stay in Europe for a period of time every time.
Actually that is where I am living, where I have my main income and business (workshop and showroom, staff and markets, so no internet business either) and pay taxes. This is also what I explained to the officer.
Does this still fit your theory?
Hope you don't mind me asking the following question.
If your business (workshop, show room, staff and markets) is in Europe, on what basis do you need a Non Immigrant 'B' visa for Thailand?
Not sure why this is important so lets just say I do business here as I do in other countries, too, in favor of my business in Germany in sort of licensing, export and service which is why the Thai consulate issued that visa in the first place and yes they wanted to see proof from my business connections in Thailand beforehand.
Seeing a few people here reading between the lines i start wondering: Is it really that unusual to get a business visa to actually do business in Thailand - and be it for an extended period of time?! Did I miss something?
Well, I hope I could help anyone with my report who might face similar problems when exiting/entering Thailand on a non-B without WP or Ltd company.
And I would like to thank everyone, who actually helped me out in this situation by sharing their knowledge and experience. It is well appreciated!
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Correct me if I am wrong, a non I'm B is only valid for 3 months, after that it's extension of stay with a WP and in country 90 day reporting?
Given what the OP says, he would have been better off with a 60 day double entry tourist visa.
Either way immigration certainly seem to be scrutinising passports at present.
The problem with a tourist visa is that I am not allowed to do business here in Thailand as a tourist. Therefore it is hardly the right visa. As I have stated before, I do business in Thailand but I am not employed.
And to correct you: A non-B is valid for one year, but when you enter the Kingdom, you are allowed to stay up to 90 days. After that you can leave and come back for another time up to 90 days within that year again and again if it is a multiple entry visa. Once you get a work permit, you can get an extension (of more than 7 days), which you will have to renew every year (at least that was still the case when I had mine a few years back before returning to Europe)
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Perhaps the Thai immigration officer felt that the multiple-entry non-B visa was not the correct visa for living in Thailand long-term with back-to-back border runs.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app
Interesting, but as a matter of fact I do have only one back-to-back stamp in my passport within the last 5 years ... I did go to Satun one time this year but other than that I went to/from Prague, Düsseldorf and Berlin within the last 12 months and it was not for one day. Of course they will not show in my passport as I am EU citizen an do not get stamped there.
The Thai immgration stamps however do not go back-to back as I did stay in Europe for a period of time every time.
Actually that is where I am living, where I have my main income and business (workshop and showroom, staff and markets, so no internet business either) and pay taxes. This is also what I explained to the officer.
Does this still fit your theory?
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He says he has a non-imm B. Based on what? B is for business. Can you just get a B visa for no reason other than you want one?
Maybe he is doing business in Thailand?
Did he have a re-entry permit?
How would he need one as the holder of a valid non-B multiple entry visa?
His only reason for going to Myanmar was for shopping? Other than "business in Rayong" he does no work here?
How is that not a valid reason as is sightseeing or being a tourist etc? Business in Rayong reads family business but thanks anyway
Sent from Karon Beach
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Thanks for your help! Should go by the extension then.
Reckon you are right by Myanmar officers playing it safe after all whats happening at the borders recently - especially as this was what the touts said, too.
Sent from Karon Beach
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Drove the car to Ranong pier yesterday to do a border bounce and some shopping in Myanmar.
I am a German national, 42 years and currently staying in Thailand on a non-B visa expiring on tuesday, with a stamp allowing me to stay here until August 20, which exactly 90 days after my last entry into the Kingdom. Since my next flight to Europe is on the 27 of August and I had some business to do in Ranong anyway, I was looking into getting sorted for those extra days.
When exiting Thailand, the officer looked at my passport page by page and asked for a work permit which I do not hold as I do not work here. When asked inside the office I explained about my business in Germany and my money coming entirely from abroad. I had to answer questions on where I live and if I rented a home and about my address, plane ticket, etc.
The officer told me he will not let me exit as I will have a hard time coming back from Myanmar, where the Myanmar border officers will want to see a return ticket (that I did not bring) to let me exit into Thailand. This was the same story I heard from the boat touts at the pier btw. The officer said, he turned down all previous foreigners today for the same reason as he will have to go to Myanmar himself and sign a lot of papers to have anyone stranded there come back to Thailand. He was very friendly though but his words were: Try it somewhere else.
Anyone has any idea what happened there? And what are my best options now?
Does it make sense to go to Satun before tuesday, the last day of my non-B visa?
Will I be able to get a 7 day extension in Samui to not overstay without having to change my flight date?
At the moment I certainly not want to overstay a single day as I intend to come back on a non-B next year.
Should I make a border run sometime beginning of August to get a waiver that will last until my trip to Europe?
Thanks for any input!
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Thanks! I am flying out of Prague and currently staying near Dresden, Germany. Consulates in Germany are closed until Jan. 5 I was told at the consulate here. At closer look this seems not to be the case as Berlin should be open. Thanks for the hint and for the note on proof of onward journey!
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Good morning, going to BKK from Europe early January on short notice, returning end of March.
Since I could not get a Tourist Visa before the holidays but leaving for BKK before re-opening of consulates I am wondering what is the best option?
Stay on exemption for 30 days, then obtain Tourist Visa in neighboring country?
The consulate worker recommended tea money at immigration in BKK to extend exemption (!?) for a week or two, followed by border run (air) for another 30 days.
Any thoughts well appreciated!
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RIGHT. Bangkok is not save.
Too many handbags around.
Some handbags are not even Thai.
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Salaya Pavilion has been renovated and extended recently and is quite luxurious, clean and friendly.
It's on Mahidol university's campus and has bus, train and taxi service as well as a decent selection of eateries in walking distance (train station is a 4 minutes bus/taxi ride).
There is a buffet restaurant as well.
Traffic-wise Salaya Pavilion is probably the best option as you can reach Bangkok (Pinklao and Banglamphu) via an elevated (but free) expressway. Express minivans depart regularly to Central Pinklao and Pata (around 20 baht) and the university's direct bus transfer from and to Wongwienyai BTS is around the same price. Check schedule here: http://www.muic.mahidol.ac.th/eng/?p=4852
From Salaya you can take the highway to NP (15 minutes) or a lovely back road along rice paddies through Nakhon Chaisi, a nice and relaxing place with a city centre of mainly wooden houses and cheap but good restaurants at the river. Salaya train station is very close and a very good option to go to NP (and on to Kanchanaburi).
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Does this mean if i get a 60 day tourist visa on March 3rd i can use it at the end of March when i should be arriving?
sure, as usual:
4. VALIDITY OF A VISA
The validity of a [tourist] visa is three months or six months. That means that you must utilize your visa within 90 or 180 days (dependent on number of entries) .
(copied from somewhere inside thaivisa.com)
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need to take around 100,000 baht to europe (germany)
hate to do it with the current rates but no choice...
wondering what is the better (as in less expensive) option, anybody knows?
1. take cash to bangkok airport and change into euro
2. send the money from my thai bank account to one in germany
thanks!
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Would they do it to a fellow Thai if it was he who committed the crime?
sure they would
I wonder why, they don't like the Burmese nationals?they dont - got to do with history
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you people are sick! shame on you
*gets up to change the channel*
R.I.P.
Thai/British minor denied boarding today
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They said they will not allow boarding as immigration will not let us pass. They refused having us talk to immigration. They did not want to look at other documentation. We also had documentation as follows:
- original birth certificate (plus translations in English and German)
- Letter of Consent from his Dad in English
- Letter of Consent from the local amphoe in Thai, signed by his Dad
- photocopy of his Dad's passport
- marriage certificate
and basically all other documents, house registrations and whatnot, as we are used to having to show a lot of papers when traveling as a multinational patchwork family.
Now it may be the case, as someone posted above, that on the day of travel the airline was afraid of delays should immigration not let us pass. When we returned the next day (the airline has no office at the airport) they still would not try to get us on another plane unless we bought new tickets. They could easily have put our luggage on hold to watch us pass immigration but they did not want to move. My Thailand born step son was holding a regular and valid British Citizen passport after all. British embassy in Bangkok was helpful as they could I reckon, ready to send us any paper that immigration should request - only since we could never talk to anyone at immigration personally, we never knew what exactly they were asking for. The airline said they would not look at it anyway, as it was "not a matter of the embassy".
We had to book with another airline and there was no questions asked whatsoever and this is how we finally were able to leave Thailand to Europe - the same way we did before. Now just left wondering if we will be able to ask money back from the airline but that's another story.