Bluetongue

I see the majority fudged the question by selecting the "most coming will already be connected to Thailand" option. Faark I did that months ago. I voted "bumpy but go etc" the economy appears to be shattered to me. This won't be the solution, only part of it. Restrictions continue and it is a very modest beginning.

Luxembourg and Slovakia must have been oversights on the first list surely

15 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

"All travelers are required to purchase valid travel insurance that covers medical expenses including COVID-19 treatments of up to 50,000 U.S. dollars. The previous coverage required was 100,000 U.S. dollars."

 

This seems to imply that a COVID only policy - such as shown on https://covid19.tgia.org/

is not allowed. Is that correct?

I hope someone answers this?

As opined on a previous version of this page the decline seems to be more or less flatlining at a combined (PCR & ATK) rate of just over 10. Today's 14 seems pretty bad by that measure, or could be a blip caused by a relatively high number of ATKs today, probably the weekends figures finally coming through.

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The reason the UK is sometimes used is because of the population comparison however I agree you could you countless other countries instead to compare with Thailand seeing as Thailand is 144th in the world for testing per million people.

Well it is what it is, they could test ten times more and still not waste so much money

So 3850 in total? Seems expensive I reckon. I had an x-ray for a dog swallowed a bone and couldn't pass it, it was 600, that was a coupla years ago. The Vets make their money on the medicine as per the doctors here, often if you can buy it elsewhere its cheaper for not fancy stuff. Its still cheap compared to home of course, I do try to remedy at home first though

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

Of the 8,285 cases in the general Thai population, the highest numbers were 859 in Bangkok followed by 551 in Songkhla, 532 in Pattani, 475 in Yala, 358 in Chanthaburi, 345 in Nakhon Si Thammarat, 331 in Narathiwat, 306 in Samut Prakan and 297 in Chonburi.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1453237158731567110

 

So the now more than 2 week complete alcohol ban in Chantaburi hasn't done much. I think nearly every day the figures have been as high or higher than they were then.

30 minutes ago, Rhacsyn said:

I fully respect and understand the potential benefits of mass testing and would never question the uses.

 

Having read your post I then opened UK news and was surprised to come across the damning report below of the particular "test and trace" system used in the UK. Eye watering numbers with contractors paid around Baht 50,000 a day. It is a report prepared by MP's in the UK and suggests that the system failed in it's main objective and goes on to say that there is no clear evidence that test and trace as used in UK works. I am startled by the report but there it is.

 

It is about the UK, of course, but does raise questions about what would have been best for Thailand. More testing yes but....

 

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-nhs-test-and-trace-failed-in-its-main-objective-highly-critical-report-from-committee-of-mps-finds-12445501

I don't think you'll get very far with a story critical of the UK on this page, many posters here hold the UK up as a shining light especially compared to Thailand on testing rates

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Not all countries according to the list, there are a fair number like Bangladesh, Nigeria, Pakistan, and Japan who have a considerable amount more in terms of population but are down below Thailand as far as total cases etc...go.  Again Stats are not always truthful but we use them anyway.  Answer this question.  Has Thailand tested the population as has the bigger countries would they be up higher in total cases, or would they possibly be lower based upon the percentages?  We will never know that answer now will we.

You forgot the biggest country, China. It is not even making a pretence of reporting testing numbers on Worldometer, been 160 million for months. I've said all along its fairly pointless comparing countries unless they have a lot of similarities in a range of factors.

The PCR test numbers are at least slightly predictable. The antigen test numbers are all over the place, the collection, reporting and collating of the data might not be done consistently from all over the country. I heard yesterday the village school will open on Monday, they have vaccinated the 3 years above primary school with one shot afaik. Yet to see if there will be a full roll up.

1 minute ago, Salerno said:

I think you'll find the vast majority of those "newbies" are actually returnees (banned or on posting holiday)/troll accounts of existing members.

Thanks, I've heard of such things, not such an avid poster that I would ever do that myself. I seem to not get banned, sometimes things are deleted without explanation.

I don't know that political persuasion is a determining factor, not in my case anyway. I wouldn't call myself right wing or left wing, more like the look after my own best interest's wing.

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

COVID vaccine appears to be ineffective as the UK and Israel are mostly vaccinated but still having record infections. If the vaccine worked effectively COVID would be as dead as Polio and Smallpox.

 

The pro-vax answer is to have boosters, but I'm wondering how often ...... 4x a year forever?

And how many COVID shots do I need to have before I'm not an anti-vaxxer?

 

I had COVID vaccination as soon as it was locally available, 1 so far, another in 2 weeks.

Will that be enough for you?

Israel curve has dipped right down, their vaccine profile was unusual though. Pockets of the community, orthodox Jews, Arabs etc were against it amongst other things. But its nowhere like UK atm

I would be mildly interested to find out what the profile of a typical anti-vaxxer is, both amongst Thai people and amongst board members. For instance whilst I was in Australia recently, I noticed that amongst friends, colleagues peers etc (people I actually knew) whose vaccine views became apparent to me they were all middle aged to older females. There were 5 in total at least 4 had some level of involvement with some level of alternative medicine, Bowen therapy and the like and at least 3 were in my opinion, barking mad as far as their opinion of Covid went, like it doesn't exist etc, all the vaccinated will die etc. Maybe the males keep their views to themselves. On Facebook etc males seem to be more prevalent with their over long, never get to the point videos. Often blue collar workers such as truckies.

Whats it like here? Around my village quite a few people are definitely anti-Sinovac. On this forum there seems to be a few, mostly newbies looking for an argument or is that just my perception?

Bad news for anti vaxxers? I suggest if that's what you mean, come right out and say it.

On 10/22/2021 at 8:06 PM, sherwood said:

By the look of things my daughter is learning all she needs to know about living in Thailand under this sham of an administration.

Is the older buffalo holding the camera?

20 hours ago, Bluetongue said:

Either I didn't see it or it was more expensive, not going to try and reconstruct that thought process, cheers

 

Yes Luma was 25k for 9 months, the one I ended up with was 15k for 12 months

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Luma has a 270 day option. Or did less than 1 month ago.

Either I didn't see it or it was more expensive, not going to try and reconstruct that thought process, cheers

This Covid insurance will be the last hoop to be junked on the rubbish heap, if at all. An average 3 week tourist would barely notice it. Anybody on 12 months extensions better start timing their entry/exits to minimise it if funds are tight. Particularly if there is no option between 6 and 12 months worth of it as I found through whichever ripoff I went through.

All this talk of online makes me laugh. In the village down the road they gave out homework for a while. The kids had to take it back on a Monday and get new stuff. Then one of the teachers that lives on site tested positive. So the challenge or concept of receiving and delivering contactless homework was too much so that was abandoned. That remains the situation months later. There is absolutely no online as far as I am aware in any of the local public schools. Unless you can call sending the teacher a photo of your cooking homework online. To be fair there does seem to be an outbreak locally, most of what I hear though, I distill through a filter of scepticism to allow for exaggeration and rumour. The kids at home here, numerous grand nieces, nephews etc are all bored witless as their parents work, there is nothing much for them to do at home

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

This has been explained a few times already on these threads. They are only pcr tested if taken as a hospital admission, they are not pcr tested when positive by atk and go to home isolation, community care center or quarantine. 
 

in addition the Rural Doctors Society made a public statement saying Thailand is undercounting its official figures by not including atk tests. 
 

it’s basically official number fudging

But obviously a few/quite a few of the ATK end up in Hospital right. And are given a PCR test which is subsequently reported if positive. Official number fudging yes but we don't know how many fall into both groups?