mark2552

What about a working Government? that might just help too.............

New Pattaya police chief continues cleaning out the trash

Something tells me he's going to be a very busy man for a very long time

what a shame.

the tourist minister should not be promissing something publicly, before the cabinet is informed and the issue discussed.

some people from all over the world were counting on his promise

Considering the promises made by politicians or cabinet in Thailand are pretty much the same in all countries; we all know what those 3 promises are. 1. Your checks in the mail. 2. I'll call you. 3. _

_ _ _ _ etc, etc, etc.

My guess is the police won't do jack _ _ _ _! about it. So your going to have to matters into your own hands.

1. First change the mobile numbers on your both her mobile phone and yours.

2. Pull up stakes where you are, and find another apartment. That might sound like a pain in anus to do, but the

end result would certainly ease your situation. Pick a place in an opposite location within the same radius of her

work if she is working in the vicinity; give notice where your at, get your deposit back if you have one coming,

and in the meantime look for another pad.

3. Of course if he is stalking her which it sounds like, he probably knows the work place as well, but that I am sure.

If she is not working and you are supporting her, so much the better. That way there shouldn't be any loopholes

for him to track both of you.

4. Stop going to your old hang-outs together and find some new territory to discover. Break the pattern.

Mark

Not my first post but I do not want my identification known. Hope that is okay. Hope also the reason becomes clear.

One night when she is out with me at midnight. (We are out drinking and dancing.) My girlfriend receives a phone call from a man she does not know. He waits until she goes to the bathroom before telephoning her. He tells her she is beautiful and talks to her in English. She hears very little because of the loud music. With no idea who he is she hangs up. Midnight is a very odd time to phone a Thai woman. Most are asleep in bed.

Telling me about it the next day I get the following information. He is not Thai. She knows this from the way he speaks English. Tells me she could hear the same music on his phone as she can hear whilst in the bathroom. I deduce he is in the same place as we. That accounts for the time of the call too.

I phone this man up. I and my girlfriend want to know what he wants and why he phoned her at midnight. He says he does not understand. Yet he phones back. He wants to talk to my girlfriend. Knows her name and her number. But very few people have that number. The girlfriend talks to him with loudspeaker on so I can hear. He calls her beautiful and tries to chat her up. She wants none of this. Tells him she has a boyfriend. (Obvious she has a boyfriend as we were arm in arm and holding hands and cuddling at the place we were at at midnight). Tells him time and again she has a boyfriend. Also to stop telephoning her. She hangs up on him.

Later he phones back on another number. She tells him not to phone. She does not want to talk to him. Gives me the phone to talk to him. He hangs up fast.

Later a third call. He is told not to phone or to speak to my girlfriend again. He is now abusive and swearing.

Nothing happens for a week. Now he phones again. She was asleep. Half asleep she answers the telephone. He is wanting to know where she is. What she is doing. Intimates he wants to meet her. She hangs up. Comes down stairs and she shows me the number. I phone it. The man hangs up quick. It is the same man. Another new number. Now three numbers. All numbers are logged.

I can guarantee she does not know this man. I can guarantee she has had 1 husband (deceased) and no boyfriends before me. So no comments about "lady Bar" please.

The point of the post? This man is in my opinion stalking her on the telephone now. I know what he looks like from enquiries made. We are 90% sure which woman gave him the number and her name but are not certain.

He is Asian. Speaks little Thai. Speaks English to the Thai girlfriend.

Is it worth reporting to the police as a stalker? Will the police do anything? The girlfriend is now worried. She is scared to go out alone because he might be following her. If she is on the motorbike he may do something. Maybe he is a nutter. We do not have his address. We have his three telephone numbers.

Not my first post but I do not want my identification known. Hope that is okay. Hope also the reason becomes clear.

One night when she is out with me at midnight. (We are out drinking and dancing.) My girlfriend receives a phone call from a man she does not know. He waits until she goes to the bathroom before telephoning her. He tells her she is beautiful and talks to her in English. She hears very little because of the loud music. With no idea who he is she hangs up. Midnight is a very odd time to phone a Thai woman. Most are asleep in bed.

Telling me about it the next day I get the following information. He is not Thai. She knows this from the way he speaks English. Tells me she could hear the same music on his phone as she can hear whilst in the bathroom. I deduce he is in the same place as we. That accounts for the time of the call too.

I phone this man up. I and my girlfriend want to know what he wants and why he phoned her at midnight. He says he does not understand. Yet he phones back. He wants to talk to my girlfriend. Knows her name and her number. But very few people have that number. The girlfriend talks to him with loudspeaker on so I can hear. He calls her beautiful and tries to chat her up. She wants none of this. Tells him she has a boyfriend. (Obvious she has a boyfriend as we were arm in arm and holding hands and cuddling at the place we were at at midnight). Tells him time and again she has a boyfriend. Also to stop telephoning her. She hangs up on him.

Later he phones back on another number. She tells him not to phone. She does not want to talk to him. Gives me the phone to talk to him. He hangs up fast.

Later a third call. He is told not to phone or to speak to my girlfriend again. He is now abusive and swearing.

Nothing happens for a week. Now he phones again. She was asleep. Half asleep she answers the telephone. He is wanting to know where she is. What she is doing. Intimates he wants to meet her. She hangs up. Comes down stairs and she shows me the number. I phone it. The man hangs up quick. It is the same man. Another new number. Now three numbers. All numbers are logged.

I can guarantee she does not know this man. I can guarantee she has had 1 husband (deceased) and no boyfriends before me. So no comments about "lady Bar" please.

The point of the post? This man is in my opinion stalking her on the telephone now. I know what he looks like from enquiries made. We are 90% sure which woman gave him the number and her name but are not certain.

He is Asian. Speaks little Thai. Speaks English to the Thai girlfriend.

Is it worth reporting to the police as a stalker? Will the police do anything? The girlfriend is now worried. She is scared to go out alone because he might be following her. If she is on the motorbike he may do something. Maybe he is a nutter. We do not have his address. We have his three telephone numbers.

Not my first post but I do not want my identification known. Hope that is okay. Hope also the reason becomes clear.

One night when she is out with me at midnight. (We are out drinking and dancing.) My girlfriend receives a phone call from a man she does not know. He waits until she goes to the bathroom before telephoning her. He tells her she is beautiful and talks to her in English. She hears very little because of the loud music. With no idea who he is she hangs up. Midnight is a very odd time to phone a Thai woman. Most are asleep in bed.

Telling me about it the next day I get the following information. He is not Thai. She knows this from the way he speaks English. Tells me she could hear the same music on his phone as she can hear whilst in the bathroom. I deduce he is in the same place as we. That accounts for the time of the call too.

I phone this man up. I and my girlfriend want to know what he wants and why he phoned her at midnight. He says he does not understand. Yet he phones back. He wants to talk to my girlfriend. Knows her name and her number. But very few people have that number. The girlfriend talks to him with loudspeaker on so I can hear. He calls her beautiful and tries to chat her up. She wants none of this. Tells him she has a boyfriend. (Obvious she has a boyfriend as we were arm in arm and holding hands and cuddling at the place we were at at midnight). Tells him time and again she has a boyfriend. Also to stop telephoning her. She hangs up on him.

Later he phones back on another number. She tells him not to phone. She does not want to talk to him. Gives me the phone to talk to him. He hangs up fast.

Later a third call. He is told not to phone or to speak to my girlfriend again. He is now abusive and swearing.

Nothing happens for a week. Now he phones again. She was asleep. Half asleep she answers the telephone. He is wanting to know where she is. What she is doing. Intimates he wants to meet her. She hangs up. Comes down stairs and she shows me the number. I phone it. The man hangs up quick. It is the same man. Another new number. Now three numbers. All numbers are logged.

I can guarantee she does not know this man. I can guarantee she has had 1 husband (deceased) and no boyfriends before me. So no comments about "lady Bar" please.

The point of the post? This man is in my opinion stalking her on the telephone now. I know what he looks like from enquiries made. We are 90% sure which woman gave him the number and her name but are not certain.

He is Asian. Speaks little Thai. Speaks English to the Thai girlfriend.

Is it worth reporting to the police as a stalker? Will the police do anything? The girlfriend is now worried. She is scared to go out alone because he might be following her. If she is on the motorbike he may do something. Maybe he is a nutter. We do not have his address. We have his three telephone numbers.

Now, now, now! Whats the worst that could happen? Possibility going to another country where they aren't as crazy for a while. Now thats not so bad. Of course the nice thing about going back to your own country for a while is knowing your not going to have to leave every 30 days etc,etc,etc.

But all of us know who have been here for a while...there is always a way to beat them at their own little game. Of course maybe some of the western countries might think about doing the same thing for Thai tourists in respective countries. In the case of the U.S. for example, makem make a run into canada, or mexico, every 30 days.

And in case they can't pay for any over stay, throw them in jail like they do foreigners here, rather than pay for their flight home. Mark

Yep Legalize it.....AND FRANCHISE IT! hel_l, you could even have drive thrus. Service with a smile! Yes siree thats the ticket! I can just see it now. Bill Board adds, with mouth watering pictures, T.V. sponsored advertisements on the "boob" tube, and especially on the skytrain.

Can I be first with:

"The hub of prostitution"

What exactly does arresting these punks mean?

Does it mean they have thrown their rear-ends in jail, and their bosses get to bail them out which they no doubt will. Bear in mind, these people whom they arressed no doubt have bosses with big connections. Obviously there is a lot of money being made from ripping off and extorting tourists which would justify their bosses bailing them out.

They need to interargate the poop of of these people and find the bosses; put these guys away. If the police say there are 1000's of these people they definetly have their work cut out for them.

What does an arrest of thai people mean without any teeth in it. My guess is these punks will be out on the street within 24 to 48 hours ripping of tourists in the city this time. So in order to make it count, put them in jail with absolutely NO BAIL. And they can arrest and throw the people that come down with the bail money as well until they find the source.

Perhaps a good way to catch these people also is for the Police to use bait. Hire people (farrangs) who are also very fluent in Thai start walking out of the airports with empty suitcases. When they are approached by these professional rip-off artists and extortionists, nail them right there and then.

Come to think of it, when they bring him back and they land at the airport, bag the rest of the jerks that are ripping

off tourists, throw them all in the paddy wagon together and haulem all away to the monkey house; and throw away the key.

This is becoming a Soap Opera with the media and with Taksin. Why not have someone go after this jerk, grab

his anus, hand cuff him, gagem, and dragem back here.

"PM's Office Minister Satit Wongnongtaey has told MCOT, the state-run media company under his supervision, not to allow fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra's

comments on air again, saying they were a threat to peace."

"Satit said yesterday he would allow MCOT executives to decide what to do and he would not intervene."

Which is it?

Counterproductive I feel.

Freedomless press on the way?

It is obvious that AOT is not in charge. The motto: Better to lose face than to lose your job. 2 things should happen and possibily 3.

1. Start firing and fining the authorities who cannot up hold the law. 2. Arresting the gangs on the spot. 3. Expats start spreading the word to their would be guests who are even thinking about coming to Thailand, not to come. No one likes to be snapped off when visiting a foreign country; especially at Airports. There is a need to start hitting these people with imprisonment and fines, right square in their pocket books where it counts. The economy is Thailand is already on its

rear-end so to keep on hitting them in their pocket books even more is a nice form of behavior modification. Of course one could also suspect that the some of the authories who have been hired to protect the public at the airport are also receiving kickbacks.

The question also arises, where are the police in these cases at the airport are they having donuts at Mister Donut?

There are also two prominent groups known as the Pattaya Mafia gang and the Phuyai Daeng gang. The Pattaya Mafia gang, whose leaders are known as Steve and Montri and who are neatly dressed and can easily pass as passengers, is stationed on the fourth floor of the passenger terminal. The Phuyai Daeng gang, with good connections with influential figures in Samut Prakan, works more like a lobbyist for fraudsters who want to gain entry to the airport.

That's like in the Wild Wild West.... and it seems to be the problem to "negotiate conditions" for a not-losing-face-withdrawal which satisfies every gang and authority involved!

As American who travel out of the U.S.A and bacl. I have I ever paid a post-service bribe. Englighten me where you have done that.

better late then never.

Its never too late to enfore the law. Its never too late to go after these dirt bags, arrest them where arrests can be made, and fine them where fines can be imposed, its never too late to fire them, its never to late to make an example of them and many others until they get the message.

better late then never.

Come on now, do you really think Burma gives a flying rat's rectum about world opinon let alone any Asian countries views. History shows they don't, and besides this asean counsel of governments knows they don't want to upset or possibly risk any money they are making or have at stake.

All this hype about any protest statements is shear Balony.

I guess the diplomatic question Mr Abhisit should ask the almighty powerful ruling Junta, why they feel so afraid and threatened by one middle aged lady?

Thai-Burma relations at risk over Aung San Suu Kyi jailing

By John Le Fevre

BANGKOK (thaivisa.com): -- Thailand's relationship with neighboring Burma risks being strained further as nations around the world call for action in the wake of Burmese pro-democracy leader Daw Aung San Suu Kyi being sentenced to a further 18-month's home detention.

Malaysia has called for an urgent meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) to discuss the verdict, which has also been condemned by members Indonesia and the Philippines.

Australia Foreign Minister Stephen Smith has called on the international community to voice its outrage and condemnation of the jailing and said he will contact his Thai counterpart, chair of the Association of South-East Asian Nations (Asean) Ministerial Meeting, to discuss what action the international community can take.

"We've got to put maximum pressure on the regime and that includes from our friends in Asean," he said.

In an apparent act of support for Suu Kyi, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd announced that Radio Australia will resume broadcasts into the pariah state immediately.

The Australian Government will also review existing autonomous financial sanctions which target senior members of the regime, their associates and family members, and consider including senior members of the judiciary.

At the United Nations Britain called an emergency session of the UN Security Council and sponsored a motion for a worldwide embargo on the sale of arms to the Burma junta, but failed to get a result when some countries, including China and Russia, asked for time to consult their governments.

US President Barack Obama released a statement denouncing what he called an "unjust decision" and, like UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon, called for the "immediate and unconditional release" of Ms Suu Kyi.

Malaysian Minister of Foreign Affairs Anifah Aman said: "We were hoping that the junta will release her unconditionally and will hold an election to enable Suu Kyi and other political detainees to participate in that election."

Philippine Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo said: "They don't want her to be out before the election."

India refrained from denouncing the outcome, but foreign ministry spokesman Vishnu Prakash said New Delhi, "has emphasised to the government of Burma the need to expedite the political reform and national reconciliation process".

Locally, Thailand, as the revolving head of Asean, issued a statement saying it was with "deep disappointment" it had heard of Suu Kyi's sentence.

The statement, issued by the Thai Foreign Ministry further said the Chair of Asean reiterates "the calls by the Asean Foreign Ministers attending the 42nd Asean Foreign Ministers' Meeting and the 16th Asean Regional Forum held in July 2009 for the immediate release of all those under detention, including Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, with a view to enabling them to participate in the 2010 General Elections".

The statement said Asean "stands ready to cooperate with the

Myanmar (Burma) Government in its efforts to realize the seven steps to democracy and remain constructively engaged with Myanmar in order to build the Asean Community together.

"We also continue to support the ongoing good offices of the United Nations Secretary-General and urge Myanmar's (Burma's) full cooperation with the United Nations.

In May a war of wards broke out between Thailand and Burma over the detention of Suu Kyi after Thailand, the current rotating chair of the 10-member regional block, issued a statement saying Asean had "grave concern" over her situation.

The statement also said, "the honor and the credibility of the (Burma government) are at stake."

Burma quickly fired back, attacking Thailand Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and accusing its neighbor of meddling in it's internal affairs.

Thailand responded saying the original statement was made with the "best of intentions towards (Burma) Myanmar and reflects the desire for the process of national reconciliation in (Burma) Myanmar to move forward on the basis of inclusiveness, with the participation of all sectors of society."

The verbal slanging match resulted in a rush of support for Prime Minister Abhisit for breaking with the traditional Asean non- interventionist approach and siding with other world leaders in criticizing the Burma junta.

At the time, Thai Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya said, jailing Suu Kyi could risk regional security.

Last month Mr Abhisit was forced to reschedule a planned visit to Burma after the ruling junta said it that it "would be engaged in domestic issues during this week particularly Friday" the day scheduled for the visit.

The call for action by Asean members and the international community comes as Mr Abhisit is preparing to make his rescheduled trip to Burma this week.

Burma is scheduled to hold general elections in 2010 and has already ruled out Suu Kyi's participation on the grounds that she was previously married to a Briton.

On Monday, following a three-month-long trial, a Rangoon court sentenced her to an extra 18 months' home detention after judges determined she had breached the terms of her house detention when American John Yettaw swam to her lakeside home in the Burmese capital and stayed for two nights in early May.

The Nobel peace laureate has been confined for nearly 14 of the past 20 years, ever since the military regime refused to recognize her National League for Democracy's landslide victory in the last elections held in 1990.

-- thaivisa.com 2009-08-12

Thai-Burma relations at risk over Aung San Suu Kyi jailing

By John Le Fevre

BANGKOK (thaivisa.com): -- Thailand's relationship with neighboring Burma risks being strained further as nations around the world call for action in the wake of Burmese pro-democracy leader Daw Aung San Suu Kyi being sentenced to a further 18-month's home detention.

Malaysia has called for an urgent meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) to discuss the verdict, which has also been condemned by members Indonesia and the Philippines.

Australia Foreign Minister Stephen Smith has called on the international community to voice its outrage and condemnation of the jailing and said he will contact his Thai counterpart, chair of the Association of South-East Asian Nations (Asean) Ministerial Meeting, to discuss what action the international community can take.

"We've got to put maximum pressure on the regime and that includes from our friends in Asean," he said.

In an apparent act of support for Suu Kyi, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd announced that Radio Australia will resume broadcasts into the pariah state immediately.

The Australian Government will also review existing autonomous financial sanctions which target senior members of the regime, their associates and family members, and consider including senior members of the judiciary.

At the United Nations Britain called an emergency session of the UN Security Council and sponsored a motion for a worldwide embargo on the sale of arms to the Burma junta, but failed to get a result when some countries, including China and Russia, asked for time to consult their governments.

US President Barack Obama released a statement denouncing what he called an "unjust decision" and, like UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon, called for the "immediate and unconditional release" of Ms Suu Kyi.

Malaysian Minister of Foreign Affairs Anifah Aman said: "We were hoping that the junta will release her unconditionally and will hold an election to enable Suu Kyi and other political detainees to participate in that election."

Philippine Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo said: "They don't want her to be out before the election."

India refrained from denouncing the outcome, but foreign ministry spokesman Vishnu Prakash said New Delhi, "has emphasised to the government of Burma the need to expedite the political reform and national reconciliation process".

Locally, Thailand, as the revolving head of Asean, issued a statement saying it was with "deep disappointment" it had heard of Suu Kyi's sentence.

The statement, issued by the Thai Foreign Ministry further said the Chair of Asean reiterates "the calls by the Asean Foreign Ministers attending the 42nd Asean Foreign Ministers' Meeting and the 16th Asean Regional Forum held in July 2009 for the immediate release of all those under detention, including Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, with a view to enabling them to participate in the 2010 General Elections".

The statement said Asean "stands ready to cooperate with the

Myanmar (Burma) Government in its efforts to realize the seven steps to democracy and remain constructively engaged with Myanmar in order to build the Asean Community together.

"We also continue to support the ongoing good offices of the United Nations Secretary-General and urge Myanmar's (Burma's) full cooperation with the United Nations.

In May a war of wards broke out between Thailand and Burma over the detention of Suu Kyi after Thailand, the current rotating chair of the 10-member regional block, issued a statement saying Asean had "grave concern" over her situation.

The statement also said, "the honor and the credibility of the (Burma government) are at stake."

Burma quickly fired back, attacking Thailand Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and accusing its neighbor of meddling in it's internal affairs.

Thailand responded saying the original statement was made with the "best of intentions towards (Burma) Myanmar and reflects the desire for the process of national reconciliation in (Burma) Myanmar to move forward on the basis of inclusiveness, with the participation of all sectors of society."

The verbal slanging match resulted in a rush of support for Prime Minister Abhisit for breaking with the traditional Asean non- interventionist approach and siding with other world leaders in criticizing the Burma junta.

At the time, Thai Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya said, jailing Suu Kyi could risk regional security.

Last month Mr Abhisit was forced to reschedule a planned visit to Burma after the ruling junta said it that it "would be engaged in domestic issues during this week particularly Friday" the day scheduled for the visit.

The call for action by Asean members and the international community comes as Mr Abhisit is preparing to make his rescheduled trip to Burma this week.

Burma is scheduled to hold general elections in 2010 and has already ruled out Suu Kyi's participation on the grounds that she was previously married to a Briton.

On Monday, following a three-month-long trial, a Rangoon court sentenced her to an extra 18 months' home detention after judges determined she had breached the terms of her house detention when American John Yettaw swam to her lakeside home in the Burmese capital and stayed for two nights in early May.

The Nobel peace laureate has been confined for nearly 14 of the past 20 years, ever since the military regime refused to recognize her National League for Democracy's landslide victory in the last elections held in 1990.

-- thaivisa.com 2009-08-12