SteveK

5 minutes ago, mighty said:

In the UK its same. If your visa runs out you have to leave (if you cannot renew in country)

No. In the UK, you just do nothing, stay illegally, work illegally and nothing ever happens. If anyone says anything, just call them a racist. Throw your passport away because if they can't find it they won't deport you. If you get caught, walk back from the police station to the restaurant and carry on working.

The visa rules and regulations are so convoluted that even the IOs don't know everything and you get different answers to questions at different offices. Seeing as there are no tourists here now, wouldn't this be a fantastic time to use all those idle hands to improve, upgrade and simplify the visa regulations? I'd gladly pay double if my marriage extension could be 6 pieces of paper instead of more than a hundred. Other countries seem to manage it.

Personally, I can't help but think that if we'd just carried on as normal, let people get the virus and allow the population to develop herd immunity, we'd be over it by now, just without the insane economic devastation. Sure, people would have died, but people will die in the next pandemic, and the next one, and the next one....... 

Diseases are part of nature. Humans want to be in control of everything. This whole situation has been completely mismanaged from the start. Artificial virus created in China, then WHO which was corrupted by China gives wrong advice to the world on purpose. Now China is flexing its muscles and bullying Hong Kong, India, Taiwan and Australia at the same time, and trying to covertly infiltrate many other countries. Food for thought. Plus western scientists have analysed the genetic material from the virus and have determined that it was artificially produced.   

There's something going on here, pretty sure it will become apparent soon. Either that or Nurse Ratched will be round soon with my pills. 

Obviously any deaths from a pandemic is sad. But diseases and death are just the way the world is, compounding the issue by destroying people's livelihoods is not something that was ever done in the past, and seems to be completely idiotic and counter productive. If some virtue-signalling lefty wants to try and say that it was worth wiping out the livelihoods of millions of families around the globe to keep a relatively small number of pensioners alive a bit longer, then I would suggest that they are just being stupid and trying to cause an argument. There is still zero evidence that the lockdowns saved anyone's life but it's pretty obvious that many people have been financially ruined by it.

If I was in my 70's and someone said look, we can keep you alive for another year, but it'll cause untold misery to millions around the world, I'd say fine. I'm only one person. Let me die. I would consider that to be honourable, now some fool is going to reply to this and say that I'm selfish. I'm not worried about self-preservation and generally go out of my way to help others, so suggesting I jump on a funeral pyre to save one business in a purely hypothetical situation is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Since when is it OK to say "I can't wait to see you jump on a funeral pyre"?

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

Why the world continued to lock down is beyond logic. I suspect admitting an over reaction could be political suicide and those in positions of power do not want to openly admit an over reaction. 

Once this mess is cleared up, I'm certain that historians will look back at it and declare it as a complete and utter disaster, and not because of the virus but because of the gross mismanagement, negligence, stupidity and hysteria.  Let's face it, the number of deaths is almost negligible in the grand scheme of things, in the next few months we'll see more about the poverty, bankruptcies and suicides this stupidity has caused. Family businesses devastated, economies wiped out, industries set back years because of a virus that you probably won't even know that you had unless you got tested......

7 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Have you thought the action taken so far has limited the number of deaths......Oh!.....but you don't care do you?

Take a look at the stats of who died. If you want to stop deaths then stop people driving in Thailand, stop people smoking, stop people using drugs - you'd save a lot more lives and wouldn't implode the economy.

Most people who died from covid-19 were either elderly or unwell. Yes, it's still a death, but giving some old codger an extra year is not worth destroying the world economy, people's careers businesses and livelihoods. Oh!.....but you don't care do you?   

Some people have worked all their life to build up a business to put food on the table for their family. Now that's all been wiped out to keep a few geriatrics who can't even wipe their own ass alive for a bit longer,

So they're going to use the same approach that has been used every single time in history; let the disease run its course, get back to normal ASAP. By the way, that approach was always successful. What has 6 months of economy destruction achieved? It's just made things a hundred times worse. Covid-19 is nothing compared to the Black Death or the Spanish flu, they survived. What'll we do if something like that comes along in the next few months? 

4 minutes ago, Yinn said:

 loose the business 

Classic spelling error common amongst educationally-challenged Brits. Not Thais who've studied English and know the difference between one o and two.

1 minute ago, 2 is 1 said:

Almost never use AC reason electric bill is ok! And most of time take cold shower also. Last one in town house 365 bth and farm house 550 bth!

Have all normal electric machines! Farm home always live 3 people, town house just wife and me!

Wow! That's good news! What other appliances do you use! 

12 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Stupid conspiracy. Imagine.

 

You not quickly die covid peaceful way.

you have terrible symptom. Can not breath, painful.

if someone have the symptoms, family will take them hospital, the family will tell freinds, post social media = everyone will know.

 

 

On rounds in a 20-bed intensive care unit one recent day, physician Joshua Denson assessed two patients with seizures, many with respiratory failure and others whose kidneys were on a dangerous downhill slide. Days earlier, his rounds had been interrupted as his team tried, and failed, to resuscitate a young woman whose heart had stopped. All shared one thing, says Denson, a pulmonary and critical care physician at the Tulane University School of Medicine. “They are all COVID positive.”

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/how-does-coronavirus-kill-clinicians-trace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes

 

i think big problem in UK is many believe the stupid conspiracy, anti vax loons, anti maskers, bleach etc.

 

About 3 month ago many conspiracy guys post on TVF “Thailand not have because is hot” 

Europe, USA now have summer and more covid. It another stupid conspiracy naive people believe.

 

the way to control covid is what the doctor say 8 month already. Social distance, wear a mask, wash hands, temperature check etc. Thailand control covid 5 weeks this way. 

Covid is virus, that the way to reduce the virus. 

 

UK very slow, but last month start to reduce. Is good news. But not finish yet. Is not yet time for holiday to Thailand. Just be spread more do that. 

USA, BRazil etc still not follow rules= still terrible situation.

 

Good luck.

 

What a complete load of old tosh.

Mine goes up and down like crazy, 600-2000 a month. 2 big fridges, a laptop, desktop, one a/c unit a few fans, a microwave and washing machine. The bills seem to bear very little resemblance to my perceived used of electric. A few months back we had our most expensive bill and that month we hardly used the a/c at all. 

17 minutes ago, phetchy said:

I would imagine that many countries have many ways of compiling cases/deaths statistics making comparisons deceptive.  Being such an implausibly low total of deaths (currently 58), I wouldn't be surprised if that number of people is solely those who have died in hospital and were confirmed as having the virus.  There must be hundreds of unreported deaths in rural parts of the country which were due to Covid-19.  Someone dies in a village, within days they are cremated and without an autopsy, no-one is any the wiser as to the cause of death.  An assumption that probably plays a part in the decision of many countries to restrict entries from Thailand.  

58 is laughable, especially for a country so popular with Chinese tourists. But as I said, if they only had 58 test kits, it would make sense.

I think the figures are high in the UK because they are actually testing thousands of people a day, so are finding a lot more cases with many being asymptomatic, and are actually reporting the figures honestly. No such thing as face in the UK.

2 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Thailand not want UK tourist now. UK have 45,000+ dead. 

Very high death rate. 15%+

UK not control covid. 

 

When control covid UK and other Europe be welcome to Thailand same before. 

 

Good luck.

So do you think that Thailand has done very well? Or that the figures are a load of old guff?

They've hardly done any testing hence the unbelievably low figures. I'm sure the bods in the UK know this. The numbers might be genuine but if they're doing 100 times less testing than the UK or USA, they're meaningless.