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25 minutes ago, dentonian said:

Not yet over 14 is the same as stating under15.

Don't be so silly. Not yet 14 is the same as stating under 99 then?

It all boils down to the Penal code Section 74

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Section 74 Whenever a child over seven years but not yet over fourteen years of age commits what is provided by the law to be an offence, he shall not be punished.

https://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/thailand-penal-code.html#3

24 minutes ago, ThaidDown said:

Section 74 Whenever a child over seven years but not yet over fourteen years of age commits what is provided by the law to be an offence, he shall not be punished

 Thai Visa, for years, is the only web page I can find that says 15 but produces no evidence.Plenty of evidence out there showing it to be 14.Even section 74 says a child under 14 cannot be punished.

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Visa exemptions, or “visas on arrival”, allow tourists from certain countries who arrive at a Thai border without a visa to have permits-to-stay, normally for a period of 30 days, issued by Immigration officials.
People who enter Thailand on a ‘visa exemption’ are permitted to stay only 90 days in a six-month period,
From April 1, they count only the days the foreigner has stayed in Thailand – and foreigners are now allowed to stay past the 180-day period,”

The number of consecutive visa exemptions allowed is no longer limited to three. Those who choose to enter on multiple visa exemptions it is up to the discretion of the Immigration officer how many days to grant the new arrival, provided it is 30 days or fewer. The 90-day rule does not affect people who have been issued a visa from a Royal Thai Embassy or Consulate overseas.

Parents bringing children to Thailand to attend school, can apply for non-immigrant ED visas for their children at any Royal Thai Embassy outside Thailand. Parents can apply for a non-immigrant O visas for themselves so they can enter the country and care for their children here, and then they can apply for permits to stay at the Immigration office after entering the country. Many international schools in Thailand help parents prepare applications for permits to stay & children under 14 years old who are not fined for an overstay.

http://www.thaiexpatlaw.com/visas.php

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

It is under the age of 15 not 14. Also no banning if under 18.

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The news follows a notice – circulated via a Line group directly linked to Phuket Immigration – plainly stating: “it is not acceptable for children under 14 years old not to have a visa. If your child is under 14 years old and has no visa, you must apply for a visa by 20th Of March 2016. - See more at: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-immigration-mulls-kids-caught-in-overstay-blacklist-ban-56628.php#sthash.j9cZucIM.dpuf

There is no penalty payable for a child overstay aged under 14.

3 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

Do I have it right on TM30 submission?  Form, housebook and landlord Thai ID copy? 

Yes and the fine to be paid if it's a late report. Sorry. And the passport of the foreigner staying.

It's been said that one can report to a police station if one has no immigration in their area. What areas are not covered by Immigration offices???

9 minutes ago, sjbrownderby said:

No doubt, with the required tea money donation

Tea money first or after? I always do after. Their loss.

15 minutes ago, sjbrownderby said:

Yes, you can report to the police.

Thanks for that reply Sj. I went to my local village cop shop once and asked for an urgent letter to confirm my address. Immigration were closed for a long week-end. The police refused me based on they hadn't got any official stamps to put on the confirmation letter.

51 minutes ago, sjbrownderby said:

You can also report to the police.

Are you 100% sure? Everything is on computer these days and I doubt the police will have a link to Immigration computers. What next, extensions from your local cop shop? Nah.

3 hours ago, hgma said:

better put it in the wife's name......

yep.....the local loan shark will help her all the way through the registration process, she finally can borrow money without you knowing with a collateral    

You keep the vehicle book. The loan sharks won't loan out without it. If they did they wouldn't be professorial in what they do would they? Anyway, if she needed money she could use the 8 Baht gold she has under her pillow.

3 hours ago, james6 said:

So on my return i will head to immigration within the 24 hour deadline with my tm30 and find out for sure.

You do not need to go. Your wife, landlord, fills out the TM30 and submits it.

This big cock up is their fault for allowing the 'report of farang staying' to not being enforced. It's been law since 1979 and since 2005 for commercial accommodation owners. Correct me if I'm wrong.

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I just wrote what a correct interpretation of the immigration act is and how most offices handle it.

Correct being your interpretation. Most isn't all. So to stay legal I think my interpretation is correct to guarantee staying legal at all offices. It's still early days and like most/all Thailand rules/laws they're written deliberately to be open to interpretation. Their interpretation.

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

He was writing about the requirements to get a yellow house book not the ID card.

I didnt/don't read it the same way you do.

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I have had my ID card for 6 months .                               

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has everything to do with you having yellow book and permanent place of residence when in Thailand.

No such thing as 'permanent place of residence..............' It should be 'current place of residence...............'

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I have had my ID card for 6 months now, nothing to do with what visa you have (I got mine on visa exempt) but has everything to do with you having yellow book and permanent place of residence when in Thailand. The holder of the blue book for the residence you wish to register must also complete several sets of documents in support of your application.

What documents are you referring to? The holder of the Blue Book doesn't even need to be there when you apply. Your 'Yellow Book' contains all the info the Amphur need. Other than that they want your thumb print and to photograph you for the card.

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

They will not expect a TM30 form unless you leave and re-enter the country. Trips within the country do not require it to be done.

 

I don't see that as being correct. If I decide to go to, let's say, Pattaya for a week. I have to book into an hotel whilst there. The hotel reports me as staying so that negates my landlady's TM30 reporting of me at her address up in Nakhon Nowhere. I cannot be resident in 2 locations at the same time.

On returning to Nakhon Nowhere my landlady is obliged to re submit a new TM30 to stay legal. That's my take. It's irrespective of whether one leaves the country or not. It's about reporting a farang staying at a Thais residence. At the moment there seems to be different interpretations. My missus got charged 500 Baht for registering me last week. A total scam .

3 hours ago, SirBuwanaDogbossKing said:

I have had my ID card for 6 months now, nothing to do with what visa you have (I got mine on visa exempt) but has everything to do with you having yellow book and permanent place of residence when in Thailand. The holder of the blue book for the residence you wish to register must also complete several sets of documents in support of your application.

As for the benifits;

1. No need to carry passport.

2. Can open bank account.

3. Can buy a car.

4. You are eligible for Thai price where dual pricing exists.

1. Never carried mine in 12+ years other than to show it at the bank when doing a transaction.

2. There's other ways to open a bank account.

3. I can buy a car. But better to put in the wife's name IMO

4. You can provide a link showing that?

1 minute ago, Peterw42 said:

In most DLTs you use your yellow book to get, or renew, a driving license. chicken or the egg

A letter from Immigration will cover you for a 'Yellow Book'.

3 minutes ago, houstoniron said:

I persevered because at some time in the future I think all Amphurs will be instructed to do what pattaya does, whilst the yellow book does have uses, I think in the future it will become much more dominant in the expat world.

Only ever used my Yellow Book once in the years I've had it. And that was for the Foreigners Medical Scheme that they retracted within the first year of starting. I disagree with your thought and I say the Driving License is the better thing.

5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

I get what you are saying but if you just moved all your proof of resident docs would be incorrect, then you need to start again resident certificate from immigration, yellow book etc

If you use your Thai ID card with the wrong address on then who's to know? I doubt Immigration computers are linked up with the Amphurs, driving licence office or the police .

3 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Passport doesnt have your address on it so its not much use for any proof of address, renewing license etc

Neither is the Thai ID card really any good. What's to say that you don't move the day after getting it?

My wife did a TM 30 report and got fined 500 Baht, no receipt. How the <deleted> can that be when it's not general knowledge among Thai regarding notifying Immigration of staying in their house?

JamesH, she will be submitting land title papers. They will not necessary be 'Chanote' title. I took my missus to the UK. No requirement to show land papers. Unless they've changed the requirements?

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3 hours ago, cliveshep said:

Wellington boots and I doubt they'd accept those

I don't see them as  not being acceptable in the dress code notice. Nothing mentioned about trainers or high heels either.