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Have to say.. I really dont notice any effect.. None.. Wife said 1 - 2 leaves.. Chewed a couple nothing.. Was busy and didnt keep trying.. This morning must have chewed 8 or 10 leaves.. Nothing I could detect as a stimulant buzz at all.. Possibly a little bit of a flush out (bowel) like most stimulants bring on but that was the sum total of anything. Compared to the 10 or more espressos I drink each morning (another reason I thought this might help.. Cut back on that) not a damn thing.

No there were 10s of sellers.. Including saplings and seeds... now none.. They cant all be sold out.

Because Box jellys are a rising issue with warming waters.. They were not sighted a couple of decades back, very very rare a decade back, and hence its a rising problem.

I just looked and yeah, lazada may have purged it all.. Strange now its legal and had it before..

Facebook lazada.. I looked the day when it became legal and it was obvious that it was already listed in Thai before.. Leaves, teas, and trees.

3 weeks after a 1st shot of sinovac..

As is typical of a clan based society where you are culturally ingrained to always forgive your clans transgressions.. Salim / Yellow / royalist can see no wrong doing, or at least only justifiable actions needed to maintain decency and control.. And Saam geeb / Red / Youth can see no justifiable actions or rights at all.. Its the same cases of blind loyalty and tribalism that seems to constantly come up in societies that function and clan based structures and mentalities. There seems very little introspection, or changes of heart. Theres only power and who wields it.

The perfect example just had its record high cases today !! It also had near record high deaths in the top 10 days ever since the start. How is that the perfect example of how to handle it ?? This idea that because they are vaccinated people are not dying is simply not borne out by the facts.

and shoes. walking in markets can be a challenge... Things set up for 5 10 and under..

The do it to each other.. A thai will charge a Thai with a non regional accent more.. etc etc.. Localism and clan based thinking is rife.. The concept of equality or equal treatment is not in the culture..

And Isreal has gone back into lockdowns... Increased restrictions.. Vaccine passport required for access to businesses.. The very example you want to use, is telling you the opposite of what your suggesting.

just open up.. what could go wrong ????

Try being an employer in the west !! I had 80 cross border workers in 2019 my labour cost is +-50% higher 2 years later..

There is a huge volume of evidence that drunk people take greater risks, dont use masks or distance, and that drinking bars and nightlife are all major sources of infection yes.. If you choose to be ignorant of those well demonstrated facts, thats your issue. As Thailand is incapable of policing the difference between selling alcohol and people getting drunk, this is the obvious conclusion.

The point being all those who keep saying.. 'focus on serious cases, ICU and ventilators and just open up'.. Have you looked at the stats for serious cases and ventilators.. Have you looked at the hospital occupancy (not isolation the actual hospital) they have risen in direct lockstep with the rises in cases. ALL of the data points for Phuket are rising.. And yet the proponents of 'open up let it rip' most of whom have a vested economic interest in that process seem to ignore the fact that Thailands superficially nice medical system is not systemically strong, and without an effort at reduction in all classes of cases liable to collapse under strain. Should Thailands path had gone like India the farang howls of how have they messed it up so bad, would be heard globally. Thais understand how fundamentally weak the structural systems, medical care, supply chains of medical supplies, etc etc are here.. Westerners seem to think these things have a resilience like developed countries do. That is a mistake.

4 people died last week.. how much focus does that need ??

But its generally the business owners clinging on trying not to get wiped out who are the proponents of 'hey lets just open up and accept the risk' how very noble of them.. Its very obvious on FB reading post threads who has a tourist facing business.. I agree, a full flush out, debt write off, and restart is required.. And given I dont see mass tourism next year either I feel like we will get it it..

So your advocating closing the sandbox ?? and no dine in or bars ?? Like the rest of Thailand with lower cases per population..

News items like bloomberg listing Thailand as one of the worst places in the world to be at this stage of the pandemic.. UK red list.. USA, China, OZ etc all not coming.. Phuket sandbox merely allowed a system of bypassing ASQ for most part.. Which is why theres barely a handful who have gone to Samui Plus as it all come down to the easiest / cheapest route back in. 2 years time ?? The tourist industry and the banks that are financing all these hotels, taxis, etc etc are not going to last 2 years.. Sure in 2 years some semblance of numbers will come back but the current players will be bankrupted without this years high season. Cest la vie.. They played the debt growth game expecting better years every year. Its a long time since 97 and it took well over a decade to clear out that malinvestment, this ones far worse.

In other news.. TAT predicts 42 grazillion baht in 2021 with each of exactly 2684 arriving tourists spending 132,000 per day and 400,000 room nights by the end of the year..