kandahar

Dude, if you are lumping my country in with those of the "west" as being guilty of committing atrocities of the same magnitude that Japan did, then you are completely ignorant of history. You prove here, with your generalizations and with what you DON'T say, that you are not qualified to speak or write of such things. So don't.

What about bugs? You know anything about bugs? Maybe you could write about bugs. The good thing about writing about bugs is, not too many of us know that much about them so you could certainly slip some real misinformation in there and, not only would most of us not catch it, but we couldn't be offended by your misinformation.

Google bugs, man. I'm sure you'll have a hit on your hands with that.

Slightly off subject but I have noticed that they no longer put the members who are reading a thread at the bottom . Wonder why? I miss that feature.

That must be your settings... I can see the list of names at the bottom of my pages!

Don't start jacking with your settings, BTDT. The names come and go. It is something on the TV end of this thing. They will probably get it worked out. Some of the pages wouldn't refresh properly yesterday also. Maybe their system was overwhelmed.

I stopped in to check on our two patients this evening. The UK guy is improving and seems to be in good spirits. He says he can eat any type of food I might bring so if any of you show up, keep that in mind.

Brian's friend is holding steady and looking good. He says he feels much better. Again, he had a heck of a smile on when he saw myself and the wife standing there next to him. I'm not sure what all he cannot eat, if anything, but he seemed tickled with the cookies and fruit yogurt that the wife brought. He can eat that, for sure.

Can Scorpio let us know the reason he required dry ice in the first place.

Well done to those who made the effort to find out where to aquire it for him.

P.S. Kandahar, I remember you saying a while back in one of your posts that you didn`t speak Thai. You must have been on an intensive learning course with all the asking around that you`ve done on this task/topic. Good for you.

Cheers,

Chang35baht.

We have a pretty good group here, don't we? I suspect a lot of folks did make inquiries about dry ice on behalf of the OP. They haven't posted of those inquiries but if there is nothing to report, then that is that. Yes, thanks to all for that.

And thank YOU for the faith in my learning abilities but I haven't had an intensive learning course. I don't speak Thai. My wife does a fine job of translating when it is needed. Often she is with me and often, she isn't and I have to dial her number on my mobile and hand the phone over to the Thai that I am wishing I could communicate with so the wife can sort it out. That is one side of the coin. Another side is that, often enough, the Thai person that I am dealing with speaks enough English that we can get through it or another Thai who is close by decides to help me out.

I meet a lot of Thais that have enough English to get by but are just so afraid of making a mistake that they choose to stick with what they know best. My brother-in-law (BIL) is one of those. He made an incredibly embarrassing mistake years ago and he will never get over it. In his past job in the medical field, he was tasked with meeting ambulances at the scenes of accidents involving Farangs and dealing with the injured Farang until he or she was evacuated to the hospital. He volunteered for that task because he thought he had a good enough handle on English to do it. He was young and confident. On his first mission, he was sent to the scene of a particularly gruesome accident. The Farang lay there, obviously dying. In my BIL's haste and nervousness, he asked, by mistake, 'Can you help me?" Of course, he meant to ask, "How can I help you?". The Farang replied, weakly, "I can't help myself. How can I help you?". The patient died before the ambulance arrived. That was the last time the BIL went on such a mission.

That exchange ruined my BIL on speaking English. It haunts him to this day that the guy died thinking that the BIL was asking for help from a dying man. That is a true story. I'm not sure the BIL would want me to tell it here but it illustrates why some people can be hesitant to test their skills. But the man won't even attempt English with me and he made sure that I know that he knows some English and why he refuses to use it. I speak to him in English and he usually understands. But he won't reply in English. He gets one of the other family members to translate his reply to me. Knowing that story, I go pretty easy on the Thai folks I deal with. They all have their reasons and I respect that.

The lack of language skills doesn't slow me down here in CR, nor anywhere else that I have been in the world. I am constantly looking for some thing, some person, some skill or some place. I usually get some good answers. Good people seem to respond to gentle inquiries in a good way.

The Thai's look at this way. You are a falang and you do not belong in thailand so not belonging in thailand means if you were not there {which you shouldn't be because you don't belong} the "accident" would never have happend so it only stands to reason that you are at fault.

Oh......and the other reason is that all falangs are billionares so can afford to pay the poor Thai's damages...regardless of who is to blame.

Blame is also a very subjective idea or notion in Thailand and as with beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder.

That may well be the truth in some cases. However, I met a fellow Farang in the hospital a few days ago that might argue this with you. He's still there and will be for some time. I also met the Thai who caused the accident that put this man in the hospital. The young Thai guy is adamant about taking care of the expenses the Farang has, and will, incur. He feels terrible about causing the accident, he feels terrible about the Farang losing a leg and and he is facing his responsibilities in an admirable fashion, including spending time in the hospital, making sure the Farang is comfortable and getting all that he needs. His one request was that the Farang transfer from the most expensive hospital in town to a cheaper one, which the Farang gladly agreed to do and has done, while still receiving good care.

The only distributor that I know of in CR that fills CO2 bottles does not make or sell dry ice. The person I talked to says the few here that do use it ship it in from CM but where in CM isn't known.

The person says it used to be sold here but "technology" replaced it. The same person also appeared to be quite disgusted with the "technology" that replaced it. It was a funny, short conversation. However, I was told, again, to try the ice-cream distributors.

Citizen purchase of dry ice is a dead end in CR, I believe. End of the mystery, for me.

The OP did say there was another Farang there that gave them some advice. It could well be that the other farang, who seems to know the drill, heard and understood what was said and it is possible that he heard the Thai version name of the hospital and translated the English version of the name to the OP, making the argument about the name and the question about the OP not understanding Thai, a dead question. Give each other some slack, for crying out loud!

As for why the OP hasn't posted, yes, some of the advice here was certainly aimed at getting him to RUN immediately. Maybe he he did. He did, after all, ask "What should we do?".

Perhaps Brian will post an update on Carsten tonight but in the meantime, I'll submit this much. I saw and spoke with Carsten today and the surgery was an apparent success. He looked so much better than yesterday morning and greeted me with a large smile. He said he feels MUCH better and it shows. My confidence has risen immensely. It appears that if he can find a way home, he may well be healthy enough to make the trip.

I also saw Glen, the U.K. guy. He had a little setback during the night but he didn't appear to be letting it get him down. He says he will be online with a wireless connection on his laptop tomorrow and he may well post here. We'll see.

Stop in and have a visit, guys. Both fellows exude pleasantness. You won't be sorry to make their acquaintance. There aren't too many Farangs in that place so they are both pretty easy to find. It seems many of the workers there know of both men and where they are located.

Carsten is still in ICU and they do have visiting hours for him. I'm sorry, but I didn't make a note of them except the lunchtime and night time hours, which are 12:00 to 12:30 and 6:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. I am told by the SIL that the morning visiting hours are 7:00 a.m. to 7:30 a.m.. She works there and should know. I missed the time hack for Carsten but the staff ladies told me I could have five minutes to visit him anyway, even when I made it clear that I would be happy to return at the proper time. They said the off-hour visit would help more than it would hurt. Whether it helped him or not, his big smile sure made my day.

Doesn't look as bad today as yesterday. What is the reading and where do you find it?

Sorry if it's mentioned in previous posts but I can't see it anywhere, which hospital are these guys in? Any idea about visiting hours?

Sorry guy. I forgot to comment on the hours. I don't know what the visiting hours are but it really looks like a free-for-all there so I don't think you'll have any trouble at any hour. And to consolidate the reply, here is the hospital info again-

Both gentlemen are in the CR hospital, otherwise known to some as the "free" hospital. I doubt you will be able to see Brian's friend until he is released from ICU.

A lot of good vibes coming off this thread now,lets hope the support that seems to have prevailed fom all of you gives the Gentleman the will to pull through.

Kandahar...a lot of respect to you man!

Truly, a lot of respect to all. Pretty good group out there and and I firmly believe that the ones that do not post, the silent majority, probably have more to offer than all of us mouthy ones. NADTATIDA1, the bad news is, it often takes bad news, bad manners of others and bad judgement of others to bring out the best in all of us. All of us see the plight of others but it often takes a negative occurrence to push us into action. And the worst news to me is, sometimes I am the guy that steps in it and gets everyone else galvanized into action. I can be the guilty one sometimes myself. That is a hurtful truth.

I appreciate your respect. Thank you. I have that much respect for everyone on here that I have dealt with. We all have those bad days and, for the most part, that is just what they are- bad days or bad calls. I don't hold anything against anyone here. It seems for every bad day a guy has, he later redeems himself with an outstanding post that proves he isn't what I thought.

Sorry if it's mentioned in previous posts but I can't see it anywhere, which hospital are these guys in? Any idea about visiting hours?

Both gentlemen are in the CR hospital, otherwise known to some as the "free" hospital. I doubt you will be able to see Brian's friend until he is released from ICU.

I don't think bashing every member of one the world's greatest religion is cool at all. This coming from someone who is hostile to religion. All people deserve respect no matter their background.

He didn't bash EVERY member of the religion, did he? And believe me, some religion in the world would win out if the facts were checked and even in that religion, all of the members wouldn't be guilty.

Of course, I recognize that "the world's greatest religion" is baiting on your part but it certainly isn't the greatest religion, whether it is the largest or not. I have lived with way too many of them and overwhelmingly, regardless of how many times they go to prayer and perform certain rituals, at the end of the day they go against their own teachings all day long but they try to be sly about it. When caught out and questioned, the response is a shy, "It will be okay. I will fix it." The greatest religion for self-promotion, yes. The greatest religion? HA!

Yeah. In general, a pretty cool statement based on my experience. But there are exceptions.

Hi!

First off all-thank you,Kandahar,for showing up,at the hospital-and I am sorry I not was there,but as I told you,I needed to get some medicin to my self,at Overbrooke and it took longer then expectet-sorry for that.

Then I can tell you that my woman and I came just after you leave,and at that time Carsten as in the operation room,so we must wait a few ours to see him,in intencive care unit-and one of the first thing he told me,was that you have been there,and how happy he was fore this-I told him ofcourse about this forum and all that so he have a chance to realise who you was and where you came from.

It make hes day,fore sure.!

He looked not so good I must say-strugling to get some air and whit wires all over.

When we was there,going down to have some water the Ambasy lady call me and told me,that Carsten must have this operation and after that,they think they have an answer in about 3 weeks-it is a long time to go whit out knowing enything-but so it is.

We go again tomorrow to see how he is and what to do fore him,but I am realy consirned about all this-the days operation alone cost 50.000 baht-and it seams that my try to make a collect in Denmark faild-there is not coming eny mony yet.

My consirn goes on-what to do later-fore the moment we have told the doctor and so how it is,and they agree,that we paid between 30-50.000 baht tomorrow when he will get a single room,becourse he cant stay in this big 30 mans room,when he just operated they say-about the infection risk,I think. And then he can pay again the o1.05-and that is ok,whit the hospital.

But I cant stop thinking about what happend and what to do,becourse the mony ends very fast,and we are not in a position to help him more then we do now-and then what? The hospital let him go-then he die-fore sure-sorry,but it is so frustrating fore me.

I will like to say thanks to you all-also those who diddent belive me-I cant use it-but anyway,you stand up here and show your face,like a man-,and I respect that very much-thanks fore doing that!

I am a tired man today,so I will stop this fore now and wish you all a good day and evening-and take care.!

Hope to meet some of you guys a day-atleast to our house warming-was there today and must pick the type of floor we wont,and it goes forward.

Brian

Brain, try to relax a little and see how this thing goes. Lots of good things can turn up in the future.

I returned twice to the hospital after my initial visit. On the first return, he was in surgery. One the second, he was in ICU. As I waited around just in case, I happened across another Expat being wheeled by me in his bed. He smiled, spoke and gave me the thumbs up. I followed him, watched them put him in bed in a room and then went into his room to say "Hi". Stayed about 20 minutes. Nice guy, a little older than me, from England, lost his leg in a motorcycle accident two weeks ago, name is Glen. I'll stop in and check on him tomorrow. Any English folks around might want to stop in and say "Hi". Any other folks might want to do the same. He seems like a really nice fellow and has a terrific outlook. He's a CR guy.

Holy cow, 244.3.

It is no wonder that I have the energy of a sandbag today.

My life has been filled with coincidences. I am used to it to the point where none of it surprises me these days.

My wife's sister-in-law (SIL) works at that hospital and has for years. She works in food-service. A few days ago, she asked me how to tell a Farang, in English "Wake up sir. It is time to eat". I told her the proper way to accomplish this and I didn't think of it again. She came home from work after lunch today and said she heard that a Farang had been to see her patient and, based on the description of the visitor, she thought it was probably me. Her Farang patient is the friend of Brian, the unfortunate subject of this thread. This strange life just keeps being strange.

I'm in the doghouse with her and the wife for not letting them know what I was doing so they could help me find the guy more easily. I'm just so used to doing for myself that it doesn't occur to ask. It never occurred to me to ask the SIL for help when I realized that Brian hadn't arrived at the hospital. That is no excuse, according to these two. But I probably found the patient more easily than I could have found the SIL had I thought to enlist her help.

Anyway, the SIL has been fussing with the patient for quite some time and talking about her work with him and it never dawned on me that her patient and the subject here were the same guy. Apparently, they don't get too many Farang at that hospital. I wouldn't know. Today was the first time I ever visited that place.

So, there is one more step for those parties to make.

You are right Kandahar!

Dear Brian,

I took you for a troll, even a bad one, as I thought you were using

the sad fate of an imaginary fellow foreigner to stir up the forum.

I thought wrong and I apologize!

Also I know what COPD is. I will go and see Carsten tomorrow morning.

Thanks Kandahar for going there and for your report!

Limbo

Reason for editing:

Forgot to ask which building. If I don't see you there tomorrow Brian,

I will see you another time. Take care!

BRAVO KANDAHAR! It is obvious that if Brian had the supreme command of the English language as Kandahar has then things would have been much different. Being a natural born skeptic my inital reaction was doubtful as well. Bravo to Limbo as well for steping up to the plate. Restores my faith in the CR Expat community.

I wish I had a supreme command of the English language. I don't. Just enough to get by. I walked out of school when I turned 16, left home and went into the bigger world and bigger lessons. Of all the things they teach in school, the English language, written and spoken, is the one thing that would have served me well to stick with. Oh, well. My choice, my decisions, my losses. Sadly, what you see here, is as good as it will ever be for me. I'm too old and too busy to try to improve these skills.

But Limbo did step up, didn't he? Good man.

If anyone wants to join me, I'm easy to identify- I'll be wearing worn Levis, desert-style military boots, a green T-shirt, mirrored Ray Bans on my head and five days (at least, but I can't remember for sure) worth of beard stubble on my face.

Great Kandahar! I am sure you will be up to your task!

For those who want to back up Kandahar:

The hour is 10.30 gentlemen!

Concerning your little controversy with Jantje I just would like to say that Jantje clearly

got the impression that the patient has a 'year visum' (more precisely a yearly extension of a

non-immigrant visum), that only obliges to a notification of stay every three months and can be

extended every year.

You can do the notification the week before the specified date or until a week after.

So in that case a couple of days 'late' don't harm.

It is probably this kind of visum you have as well.

For this type of visum you have to prove that you finances are in order.

A multiple entry visum, valuable for one year, thus enabling a stay of roughly 15 months, is different.

You have to leave the country every three monts, before or on the day the embedded three months

visum expires. If you come later it's up to the discretion of the officer to decide if your reason for

doing so is valid, otherwise you get a fine.

These visa can not be extended but they can be used in a traject leading to the earlier mentioned 'year visum'.

I think the 'dude' you are talking about will have this one (as you mention a visum and not a waiver).

And I think the 'patient' has a similar.

So the 'dude' and the 'patient' were not required to give proof of their financial position and we have to

assume that they both run out of money.

It's great that there are people like you who spontaneously help people like 'the dude' and 'the patient'

when they, on top of their general miserable financial situation, are confronted by illness.

Many others would say that they caused their own problems and thus also should solve them by themselves.

You sounded a little bit aggressive in your last postings. I really hope you didn't yell at the doctors and nurses

because they work very hard under very difficult circumstances. By now you will know how overcrowded

the hospital is.

I think everything has passed the revue here now.

This thread has already more postings than the 'house buying' thread, so maybe a final (and friendly) word from

you would be a worthy conclusion.

Limbo

Limbo, that is good info on the visa thing and it would have been even better info had it been posted to Brian's question in a timely manner. A berating after the fact isn't helpful. Gentle information is a good thing in most of these cases.

I didn't yell at any nurses or doctors. I don't yell much. I didn't know where the dude was but I asked a few of the staff where they would keep a Farang that can't breathe properly and was in the process of dying. The third person I asked, a female doctor, led me to his bed on the second floor.

I'm not ashamed about being aggressive in that post. I learned years ago that when it is right, it is right and when it is something you will regret, it is best left alone. I guess I learned that a few years ahead of some others on here but there is still time for those people and here is one example of how the lessons are learned. Better this way than some of the more violent lessons that I am unfortunate enough to have under my belt from a not so pleasant past. Those still haunt me and will until I'm gone. I'm certainly no angel but I do learn from mistakes. I wonder if these smaller lessons in this thread will haunt any of the guilty parties. Maybe the lessons aren't powerful enough to stay with a person very long. We will see. As I said, scars are knowledge. Valuable knowledge.

Editing here because I missed your words about a final, friendly post from me. I'll do my best but an ass-chewing still seems to be in order. Brian didn't deserve any of this crap and it could have been prevented so easily. Operating in an unfamiliar language should be given LOTS of consideration. So, there is one more step for those parties to make. We will see if it happens on here, in person with an extended hand or not at all.

Friendly. Yeah. It is a friendly forum, usually. And when it isn't, it shouldn't be too difficult to clean up the small messes we make. Overall, I think we do a pretty good job. Just need to work on avoiding them in the first place. And while we aren't perfect, the CR forum does a pretty good job of that as well.

See you all at Brian's housewarming party in a few months. I'll be the guy staying to himself and drinking coffee no matter how hot the day.

Harry, I extended your wishes to the man.

He is real. His circumstances are real. I have doubts as to whether or not he will make it to his homeland. Perhaps, the surgeries and medicines will improve him enough to make that last trip.

At times like these, I wish I had more to offer those in need. I will stop in and see him again. That isn't much of an offering but it is something I can do. I wish I could have known him in better times. He seems like a man to be taken seriously in his lifetime. I'm pretty fond of the serious friends I have in this world. A guy can't have too many; only too few.

Brian was diverted to another hospital to pick up medicine. I didn't get to meet him. I will this afternoon.

I'm meeting Brain at the hospital at approximately 10:30 this morning. I'm not going because I want to verify his story. I'm going because I know he is a good person and I like meeting good people, wherever I go in the world. I'm also going to meet his friend, who I would like to wish, in person, good luck in getting home. Much better to offer a good wish now, one that the person can appreciate, than a RIP later. If anyone wants to join me, I'm easy to identify- I'll be wearing worn Levis, desert-style military boots, a green T-shirt, mirrored Ray Bans on my head and five days (at least, but I can't remember for sure) worth of beard stubble on my face.

Wish his friend the best from me. I know what it is like to lie there struggling for breath.

At least this forum has shown me who I want to meet when I move to CR , and who I do not. Hope to meet you soon kandahar.

Harry, I will extend your good wishes to the unfortunate fellow.

I'm meeting Brain at the hospital at approximately 10:30 this morning. I'm not going because I want to verify his story. I'm going because I know he is a good person and I like meeting good people, wherever I go in the world. I'm also going to meet his friend, who I would like to wish, in person, good luck in getting home. Much better to offer a good wish now, one that the person can appreciate, than a RIP later. If anyone wants to join me, I'm easy to identify- I'll be wearing worn Levis, desert-style military boots, a green T-shirt, mirrored Ray Bans on my head and five days (at least, but I can't remember for sure) worth of beard stubble on my face.

Oh please get real!

First of all: I think about-he have to stamp-the latest is today-what happend if we dont do this fore him??

If you are a few days late you never will be fined and if you are, 500 per day and most of the times when longer than 3 days 2.000. And it is possible to get that stamp through somebody else as long as you have the original passport with you. Without a Fine!

Next: I was at the immigration office and make him a new one,which gives him permit to stay until June d.6.-

When were you at immigration? On april 6th? And if so, they stamp for THREE months! So till July 6th!

Please stop making up these stories. Again... get real.

There are more discrepancies in your story! Like Mumbo Jumbo already wrote, you can fool me once.... etc.

Wow! There is some good news in this post. Apparently, all of the stories I have read of people being fined for being late at immigration were lies. Now I discover you will never be fined. NEVER!!! I guess I'll start taking my sweet time and going for my updates when it is convenient for me. Those "report by" dates just became meaningless with this new, valuable knowledge. Oh, and if you are fined (what happened to never?), then it is only an amount that is of no consequence to some people. And what is of no consequence to some people really ought to be of no consequence to EVERYONE.

If you had these quality answers concerning being late at immigration for this man, why did you not post them when he was asking originally? If you have questions as to the accuracy of this man's account of his friend's situation, why don't you go to the hospital and visit his friend? You know, it is just as easy in life to do something about your suspicions as it is to conclude that you are correct and then publicly hammer someone that you may well be wrong about. You can’t take back your deeds once you find that you were wrong.

Concerning the visas that require 400,00 and 800,00 baht, I'll say this. I know a dude that I see, unfortunately, every single day. While I have the type of visa that requires a good sum of money in the bank, he has a different type that requires him to have no money in the bank and to do periodic runs to the border for updating. He is from Europe and his visa was issued in his home country. There are many types of visas out there and what type one of us has isn't necessarily THE type to have. This guy I know doesn't have enough money to feed his family. He can't afford a bicycle. He can't afford his rent and it is cheap. He has a new baby to raise and there is no way he can do it without begging help from his people at home. If he broke a finger, he couldn't take care of the bill. He's an idiot. Those kinds of people are out there. It sounds like Brian's friend is a genius, compared to the dude I see and listen to every day. At least Brian's friend started out with some money.

I have to say, it is pretty easy to put someone down with the old keyboard. Usually, most of the posters refrain from that here. It seems to me that I remember this poster being so happy to get away from CM and coming to stay at CR because CR has nicer people. I seem to remember this poster writing about how the CR forum was populated by much nicer, more helpful people than the CM forum and writing about the CR forum NOT having the same bad people dominating it. It looks like someone has gotten settled in a nice routine here in Niceville and has started missing the hateful forum that he referenced in the past. It is still there, man. You can go visit it any time you like. No need to poison this one.

Brian has put himself out there for his fellow human in more ways than one. How many of us would give up several days and lots of baht to run back and forth to Mae Sai for this guy? How much time and baht has Brian given to trying to resolve the sick man's crisis? Does he deserve no credit for this? Does he deserve criticism for his actions? I don't think so. But if you're convinced that he does deserve this criticism, then you REALLY ought to jump on your motorcycle and go see the dude in the hospital and find out for yourself if the story is true. You need to KNOW that you are right before unleashing such an attack. I'm sure the sick guy would appreciate a visitor that has an interest in his story. Maybe the reality of his suffering and his situation would put all of this in perspective for you.

Someone else mentioned "beer fueled rants" on the ol' forum. I hate to accuse anyone of that and I'm not accusing anyone of that. But I certainly see from some of the posts that the possibility exists. That would account for some of posts that just don't seem to have any value or redeeming qualities whatsoever. I wonder if this quoted post is "beer fueled".

What Brian writes here is a representation of who he is. While English is not his first language, he understands that he runs the risk of leaving himself open to snipers who would choose to misinterpret his words or meanings. He has a good heart and disregards that risk to help another. He doesn't deserve to be called a liar. I am not following why anyone would see his postings first as a means to get attention for himself. Who has such a life experience that to pounce on errors in expressing one's self is a better way to go than to see the good that one is doing? I get the feeling that some have led an awful cushy life. Must be nice for them but I wouldn't trade my experiences for theirs. Scars are knowledge.

If you, or anyone else is in doubt about the truth of Brain's story, then you need to go verify it yourself/yourselves for it is you that is/are making accusations of the man being a liar. So easy to find out the truth if you have doubts but it requires getting off of your duff and being sober enough to drive and function in public. It is up to you to know for certain that you are correct before you show the rest of us just how lazy and hateful you can be.

Hi!

He has no insurrance-and I agree-thats fulish and stupid-but thats how it is whit him-but I can not think about it this way-and just left him alone-I think I will remember this lection and use it to warn other people to go here or enywhere whitout a insurrance-it is to stupid-but even you are stupid,I think no one have to be left to die alone in a foreign country-

I have talk to his son in Denmark fore 2 min. ago and they try to collect the mony,so one of them can came out here to take him home.

End of story from me.

Thanks fore your support and understanding-enyway the most of you in here are good guys,I think...thank you!!!

Brian

You're right- No one needs to be left to die alone in a foreign country. If he has no person here to care for him, it is good that he goes home for his final days.

I know you were not asking for money on this forum. I hope I didn't cause anyone to think you were. I'm just an old dog that has seen a lot of bad things and I am moved to lessen the hardship for people sometimes.

I'm lucky. I have a supportive family here. I think when my time comes, I'll just pass here if I have a choice about it. No need to ship me anywhere, before or after.

Brian, you are good man to step in and help that man, your friend. I suspect your experience in this matter will be useful to you and someone else in the future. I am glad that the man's family has someone like you on this end to handle the things for them that he and they cannot handle from their respective positions. I hope we all have friends like you if the time comes that we need them.

kandahar

Hello!

They say in the hospital that he can fly but need air-but the ambasy say he can not.It is a matter off 9.500 dkkr.

I have allready contactet the family but they can not help whit the mony-but I have write to the Danish goverment about it and I have make a home page on facebook and alot of people in Denmark suppert this group-35 menbers now-so lets see how it works out.

I think about-he have to stamp-the latest is today-what happend if we dont do this fore him??

Will the Thai goverment send him back then???Maby they just give him a fine-so we better go to Mae sai today and do it fore him-it is the 3. day in a road we are up there-they keep asking fore more papers every time-but think it is ok. today.

Thanks fore your reply!

Brian

Okay.

I'm not sure how the Danish embassy can keep him from flying or why they would try to. Seems to me that if he buys the ticket and shows up, no person would be there to stop him. But I am not familiar with the Danish way of doing things.

Yeah, sounds like you should get the immigration stamp for him if you can. If he doesn't have the money for the airline ticket, he doesn't have the money for fines.

Might be a good idea to contact the airline and find out exactly what the cost of the ticket, with the oxygen, will be, so you know exactly how much baht you need to get him home.

Let me know when you are ready to buy the ticket. I will contribute some baht for that if you come up short on the Facebook support. I can't help a lot but I can help some. If you need my help, PM me at that time.

Brian, I'm not positive I understand what you are asking about. Let's clarify. I would guess you are asking about a ticket for an ambulance type air ticket for the man. If he is released from the hospital and can fly the usual way, surely his family could help get him home. What kind of cost for the health-care flight?

Is the man a military veteran?