Forethat

Just now, bannork said:

34.7% and nearly 13 million, a whopping 29%, didn't vote at all.

And of that 37% who voted to leave, how many of those wanted a No Deal Brexit?

No one knows.

Time for another referendum to find our.

May I ask: what would you do if (I say IF) Leave won again?

35 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

1. A second referendum can only take place if supported by a majority in the House. Opposition take control of the agenda as the did to introduce the Benn Bill.

2. The Benn Bill sailed through the HoL, proving that they are primarily remainers and likely to support any pro remain bill.

3. Agreed. Unfortunately that's clearly not you.

The only option to motion is via a private members bill. Good luck with that. If they want to force the government there is a precedent from 1979.

You tend to think that the parliament can simply vote to hold a referendum. It's far more complex than that in case the government doesn't support the idea.

12 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

No. It can only happen if it is supported by the majority in the house. The government doesn't have that majority, the opposition do. However, at the moment, I don't think the opposition have sufficient unity to get that bill through the house.

Three things:

1. A second referendum can only take place if it is supported by the government.

2. For a referendum to be held, primary legislation is required. This will require both houses to vote in favour, just as any normal legislation.

3. Leave this to those who know their stuff. 

1 minute ago, SheungWan said:

Opposition across the aisles have the numbers to form a temp govt to boot Boris aside.

You think a formal notion of no confidence will be issued and an alternative government will hold a second referendum? They could do that. IF remain wins there will be an interesting GE in 2022 and I don't think L and LD are going to like the result. In such case Brexit is on the table again. Just a thought. 

7 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

No. And. Not if the referendum is first.

The reason I don't see that happening is that a second referendum on Brexit can only happen if it is supported by the government. I doubt the current government will want to do that.

13 minutes ago, Forethat said:

You're not capable of providing an ounce of evidence to support your argument?

Really?

 

Oh dear, how embarrassing.

So you fold as soon as someone decides to call your bluff BS?

Wise decision. ????

12 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you...

But you're incapable of providing an ounce of evidence to support your view?

Why don't you just say "yes"?

1 minute ago, oldhippy said:

I will admit that Bolsonaro takes Trump seriously, and that Poetin thinks he is a usefull fool.

I will admit that Rees Smugg takes Bojo seriously, and that Farage thinks he is a usefull fool.

But that's about it.

DEAL?

So you're incapable of referring to facts? None whatsoever? You're all empty words?

1 minute ago, oldhippy said:

Facts.

Who takes Trump or Boris seriously? Who? (apart from their own lumpenproletariaat)?

Only one problem: what will they do next in their egocentric madness?

Not that I care what happens to the US or UK, but the whole world could suffer from this madness.

 

So you can't refer to any facts, is that what you're saying? It's all empty words?

7 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

Trump undermines the international credibility of the US and democratic national institutions , just like Boris undermines the credibility of the UK.

 

Is that your arbitrary opinion or references to facts? 

3 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

OK, and so Brexit will hinge on who is elected - we can expect the Tories to take us out, and Labour to have another referendum?

Yup, pretty much. The next GE will be a second EU referendum. 

10 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

What a mess. Can somebody who follows politics a bit more closely than me summarise what will happen now, after the Supreme Court's ruling?

The parliament will faff around for a few more months until the situation is deemed unworthy and a general election is called - in which case the circus starts all over - and remainers on here will up their effort of calling people liars. Elementary.

31 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

The damage Trump and Boris have done to 2 of the leading nations of the western world - euhhhh make that 1,01 - is irreparable.

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly WHAT is Trump's damage to the US, in your opinion?

1 minute ago, SheungWan said:

Watching Hard Brexiteers having tantrums highly educational.

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I guess your 9,918 posts in a few years stands as proof of your educational aspirations and level of watching.

Don't know if I'm the only one noticing that multiple PhDs and Professors from MIT are voicing an opinion in direct contradiction to the climate change hysteria...

It'd be interesting to watch one of them in a debate against Greta.

7 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Absolutely. Yesterday, when all the nastiness kicked off he never said a single word. Kept right out of it.

The term "watch and learn" never appealed to you, did it?

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Plus postponed holiday plans due to uncertainty.

If the stats are correct it was predominantly Germans who postponed their holiday plans.

1 hour ago, Bruntoid said:

I don’t know you well enough to gauge your efficiency but having read your posts I can safely rule out the ‘smart’ bit ????????

 

First you were a spy, then you worked for the government, then you own a company etc etc - when looking at the evidence it would appear you’re sat in your flat posting to forums and watching TV - how’s things up there Mr Mitty ? ????

A spy!? 

Baha, I've never really taken you seriously, but this was a bit over the top even by your standards...! 

And yes, I do work for the government. And yes, I do own the company. It must pi** you off something awful...!

Finally, someone is calling BS on the Greta Thunberg abuse. Sky News.

10 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Yes, if we read ancient times chronicles, there are countless accounts of freak weather and climate.

Of course humans can do much better for the environment , and burning fossil fuels cannot go on forever.

If we talk about priorities for humankind, i think that wars, social injustice, inequality, slavery are much more shameful than ice melting or oceans rising.

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Hear hear!